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STEAM | October 2015 - You had me at "game ... comes to Steam".
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Tizoc
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Thanks, I'll get the Gold Edition later today, and Freedom Cry mainly as I like the design of the MC in that
This game sounds fun lol.
jaundicejuice
Member
If there wasn't some redeeming quality to Beyond Earth vanilla for you, I don't think Rising Tide will be enough to win you over. It definitely needs an expansion to fix its late-game. I'm interested to see what they choose to address with Rising Tide when they patch it. The Winter Update made vanilla playable and enjoyable for me. Hoping for something similar with RT.
probably because everyone had dark souls experience by 2
I probably got the wrong experience you guys suck
dark souls 2 feels so bad for me it decided to despawn most of the enemies
I DON'T NEED YOUR PITY
PetriP-TNT
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Dark Souls 2 is much harder than the first one IMO too and I did all the LVL1 shenanigans and such before playing it (on day1 that is). It requires you to totally change your playstyle if your old strategy in DkS1 was rolling rolling rolling.
Brilliant game.
Good luck trying to grind them for pity XP now :3
Brilliant game.
Good luck trying to grind them for pity XP now :3
LurkerPrime
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WinterDemons
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yeah I thought I was crazy, strict dodge timing, enemy attack pattern, spawns and a lot of stuff made the game harder, like I must be missing this optimised build that makes this game a cakewalk
WinterDemons
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Better to run around abducting and traumatizing people with.
Make sure to invest in adaptability (technically agility, but adaptability is the best way to get it) if you are having trouble with dodge timing. The base dodge roll has way too few i-frames, but with a bit of agility you can get up to DS1 levels of i-frames, or even more.
to be fair, neither game is too hard, they definitely have trying sections and some very hard bosses but anyone with the right souls mindset can go through them if you're resilient enough
i've beaten both multiple times and i still find dks1 a lot harder. bosses take more hits to kill, there's a lot of platforming areas like crystal caves and anor londo and sen's fortress and lack of warping from the start means backtracking for grinding or upgrades or whatever is more annoying.
dks2 is pretty easy outside of obnoxious ranged enemy filled places like iron keep and shrine of amana
i've beaten both multiple times and i still find dks1 a lot harder. bosses take more hits to kill, there's a lot of platforming areas like crystal caves and anor londo and sen's fortress and lack of warping from the start means backtracking for grinding or upgrades or whatever is more annoying.
dks2 is pretty easy outside of obnoxious ranged enemy filled places like iron keep and shrine of amana
YianGaruga
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The dodge timing is only harder because of ADP. Get ADP up to 20 and dodging is as useful as in DS. The more ADP (and in turn Agility) you have, the more invincibility frames you have when dodging. It's a dumb mechanic.
DS2 is not a hard game.
DS2 is not a hard game.
PetriP-TNT
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Yeah, I know. I would argue it's a dumb mechanic too, but it does make the game much harder by comparison if you just try to DkS1 your way through.
If DkS2 is "not a hard game", then DkS1 isn't either. One can then ask him/herself "what is an hard game"
they're both challenging and demanding games
but I think DS2 demands a lot more, from what I've played it seems like they're going all "itagaki" with all the design choices
it's just not that demanding of a game, only thing it asks of you is that you don't lose it and rage after dying like 20 times
if you pay attention you should be able to win with very little mechanical skill, it's like a puzzle, kinda. what's awesome is that it also rewards mechanical skill and deep knowledge of the game's mechanics
but yeah it's not bayonetta or one of those crazy schmups or fighting games
or mobas
ikaruga is my least favorite good shmup despite I think it's a good game
but god damn that game doesn't allow you to make mistake
contra hard corps
now that was a hard game
i didn't say ninja gaiden because ninja gaiden is garbage
now that was a hard game
was just a random game i find difficult myself. maybe i'm wrong, haven't played it in years. last time i tried i quickly realized 15 fps is not a fun way to play videogames. maybe vanquish instead?
i didn't say ninja gaiden because ninja gaiden is garbage
yeah NG is closer to dark souls game (a shit ton slower) than all of the Clover/Capcom/PG games, latter is all about reflexes, if you could press dodge when you see/hear an enemie attack you're good to go
PetriP-TNT
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Ikaruga.
Just saying
Bfft, call me when bullet hell shooters get actual hitboxes instead of those 1px ones ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I really should play Ikaruga though. I have wanted to play it since it came out on DC, then on GC and now I do own it on PC.
TheAutomator
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There are also good and bad kinds of hard.
For example, if, after you fail, you have to restart and go for something like an hour repeating stuff that is no longer challenging only to have one more attempt at hard again, it's bad. The game might be a winner on "hard" for all I care, but I am not likely to do much with it. And that's just one example.
Why is that important? Because whether a particular kind of hard is "good" or "bad" - and I get that it's half-subjective - likely matters more than the degree of hard.
For example, if, after you fail, you have to restart and go for something like an hour repeating stuff that is no longer challenging only to have one more attempt at hard again, it's bad. The game might be a winner on "hard" for all I care, but I am not likely to do much with it. And that's just one example.
Why is that important? Because whether a particular kind of hard is "good" or "bad" - and I get that it's half-subjective - likely matters more than the degree of hard.
i wanna play that game
but fucking konami
i should probably get it on my ps3 before they remove it from the store...
YianGaruga
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Yeah I should have said "DS2 is not harder than DS", except for maybe a few bullshit encounters.
Some mechanics are different from DS, but in general the same approach works for both games in my experience.
Huh, because for me a game where I don't die more than 3 times is braindead simple.
Contra: Hard Corps, not Hard Corps: Uprising.
i think the main thing to look for in difficulty is transparency and reliability.
is the game making apparent why you're dying/losing and is it teaching you how not to? and is the game following the rules it's set up for you?
garbage
the morally unjust thing is to deny hard corps the play it so desperately wants
is the game making apparent why you're dying/losing and is it teaching you how not to? and is the game following the rules it's set up for you?
i played the ps3 one
garbage
the baddest >:3
www.xxfree1001emuromsxx.com.ru is ur friend
the morally unjust thing is to deny hard corps the play it so desperately wants
yes
you missed one of my favorite games of all times
just look at the insanity of this first level: https://youtu.be/8aI_EE_eA-I?t=45
there's been some amazing first levels in the history of videogames, from final fantasy 7 to bioshock to metal gear to planescape torment (and probably some way better choices that i can't come up with at 5 am)
but i have to say, that might be my favorite
just look at the insanity of this first level: https://youtu.be/8aI_EE_eA-I?t=45
there's been some amazing first levels in the history of videogames, from final fantasy 7 to bioshock to metal gear to planescape torment (and probably some way better choices that i can't come up with at 5 am)
but i have to say, that might be my favorite
Ikaruga.
Just saying
Ikaruga is piss easy if you're not going for high score.
Try Mushihime-sama
Tizoc
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and i thought you were cool.
i think snes > genesis is right in like amount of good games or whatever, but contra hard corps is like the best game on the console so srsly play that thing
you can play with a werewolf guy with sunglasses and like a machinegun arm
there's so many ridiculous bossfights with transforming robots and messed up shit
it has like 6 different endings and branching paths with different bosses and levels
there's so many fucking explosions
just look at this fucking insane boss, it's like a labcoat guy that has a machine that like merges the dna of two regular game enemies and creates mutated versions of them
it's fucking amazing
you can play with a werewolf guy with sunglasses and like a machinegun arm
there's so many ridiculous bossfights with transforming robots and messed up shit
it has like 6 different endings and branching paths with different bosses and levels
there's so many fucking explosions
just look at this fucking insane boss, it's like a labcoat guy that has a machine that like merges the dna of two regular game enemies and creates mutated versions of them
it's fucking amazing
well I think 20 year old console wars were actually better lol, because we were like all kids/babies at the time
I'm not even a big fan for nintendo franchises but man super metroid aged well
so did link to the past
edit: super mario kart is still the best mario kart/kart game, come at me
both consoles were pretty great, my family only had a genesis cos snes were super rare here and argieland had mostly pirated genesis cartridges made in brazil or something
for most of my life i had no clue that you could even pirate genesis cartridges, but i guess that explains why most kids i knew had a genesis
i still got to play a shit ton of snes thanks to emulation during my teen years and ofc i have super fond memories of the games in that console: super mario world and rpg, zelda whatever, ff6, front mission, shadowrun, tactics ogre (or ogre tactics, i can't ever remember the name of that shitty game), etc. i'm sure there's more but yea, 5 am
genesis was weirder, i remember lots of wacky games like earthworm jim and vectorman and cool spot and comix zone, they all looked great, but i don't think i actually liked any of those all that much. so the two games i absolutely adored on that console were sonic and contra hard corps. sonic, i dunno, i never was any good at it and i don't remember it fondly, but contra, omg i fucking adore that game
for most of my life i had no clue that you could even pirate genesis cartridges, but i guess that explains why most kids i knew had a genesis
i still got to play a shit ton of snes thanks to emulation during my teen years and ofc i have super fond memories of the games in that console: super mario world and rpg, zelda whatever, ff6, front mission, shadowrun, tactics ogre (or ogre tactics, i can't ever remember the name of that shitty game), etc. i'm sure there's more but yea, 5 am
genesis was weirder, i remember lots of wacky games like earthworm jim and vectorman and cool spot and comix zone, they all looked great, but i don't think i actually liked any of those all that much. so the two games i absolutely adored on that console were sonic and contra hard corps. sonic, i dunno, i never was any good at it and i don't remember it fondly, but contra, omg i fucking adore that game
i actually played through most of the metroid series (basically every game released from super metroid to metroid prime 1) and yeah, super metroid aged wonderfully
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