this game too, actually
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STEAM | October 2015 - You had me at "game ... comes to Steam".
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this game too, actually
Dsyndrome
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No shit... I stand corrected.
Indeed. He also gave out some more copies last year in the Steam thread (it was named Sequence until fairly recently). That's when I got mine.
criesofthepast
Member
Yeah I could have sworn I got my copy of Sequence (Before The Echo) years ago on GAF.
I can't believe he did it again earlier this year with There Came an Echo. Must have missed it. Stand up dude as always Feep.
Hero Prinny
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how does that man put food on the table? Game developing must be a hobby or he must be rich if he just gives his work out like that.
criesofthepast
Member
He is a man of many talents.how does that man put food on the table? Game developing must be a hobby or he must be rich if he just gives his work out like that.
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Hero Prinny
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yo bros, theres some really ban bait shit going on in off topic, be warned my friends the fuzz has swooped in and are observing it like a hawk.
Dsyndrome
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yo bros, theres some really ban bait shit going on in off topic, be warned my friends the fuzz has swooped in and are observing it like a hawk.
Saw you prodding bish, playing with fire there buddy. I stay 100ft away from those topics at all times.
Atraveller
Banned
goddamnit
Hero Prinny
Member
aw you think so? I thought it came off quite playful. However if I wake up banned tomorrow(well technically later on in the day since its already the 5th for me), just know that I love you all my children, it was a hell of a ride.
Hero Prinny
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This is cute.
WinterDemons
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They should have a virtual wedding as well. All the guests wearing VR headsets.
10 year delay between now and the wedding I expect.
PetriP-TNT
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In a real basement with a virtual waifu
Dsyndrome
Member
I never did those things in MoO2 and my teen self clocked hundreds of hours beating Antarens again and again with Space Cats & Dogs.
Leafhopper
Banned
You're a bad influence
Fixed that for the more likely scenario.
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
did he get her a tf2 ring?
You know it cost me *literally* nothing to give those codes away. = Phow does that man put food on the table? Game developing must be a hobby or he must be rich if he just gives his work out like that.
Atraveller
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Can someone explain that Escapist/Star Citizen thing to me?
PetriP-TNT
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Derek Smart Derek Smart Derek Smaaart
Atraveller
Banned
What did he do this time?
I didn't follow it, but there is a birds-eye view (I suppose, incomplete) here:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonev...-the-escapist-demands-apology-and-retraction/
LurkerPrime
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I almost asked the same thing.
But, really, you know Valve: if you can put a hat on it Valve will sell it.
Please stop destroying video games.
What I think happened is a writer for the Escapist put a lot of money into Star Citizen and is just butthurt the game hasn't released yet. So he made up a bunch of shit for his story dissing the slow development and now is getting rekt for being a terrible journalist.
I haven't read too much into it tho so I may be wrong.
PetriP-TNT
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loss of potential sales tho
not that I am complaining, mind
Worse than piracy. WORSE!
but is it worse than using SAM?
Fuzzification
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- Escapist publishes article concerning apparent illegal activities at Cloud Imperium Games [CIG], including embezzlement, racism, ageism, and homophobic behaviour - serious and illegal if true. Most of these claims are directed towards the actions of the CEO Chris Roberts and his wife (and VP of Marketing) Sandi Gardiner, mostly towards the latter. The multiple sources are treated anonymously.
- Star Citizen Redditors lose it and start investigating as all good net detectives do. They find a series of reviews posted on review site Glassdoor Australia that contains very similar claims (in some cases word for word duplicates) as in the Escapist article, posted in the days before the article was published. The flames of destruction begin to grow.
- Chris Roberts responds by sending an (understandably) emotionally charged email to the Escapist, but doesn't have his comments added to the article until after it has been published.
- Lizzy Finnegan (the author of the article) begins refuting claims the anonymous sources were a fabrication and the information was taken from the Glassdoor reviews.
- This is then corroborated by senior staff at Escapist, who post an article providing further details surrounding the sources. One of the sources apparently provided evidence by way of an employee ID card with the name blocked out.
- Escapist staff clarify that Chris Roberts' reply was received before publication but was not noticed because it was sent to a spam folder and that he only sent it to one staffer when he should have sent it to others working on the article.
- Several current employees publicly comment on their experience working at CIG, voicing a positive opinion of the company and Star Citizen's development.
- Escapist runs a podcast discussing the article, repeating the claims of illegal activity and criticising the development and management of the ambitious title.
- Redditors go from "livid" to "completely batshit furious holy wackadoos" and up their investigation/harassment (depending on your perspective).
- CIG co-founder and former attorney Ortwin Freyermuth sends Escapist a strongly worded letter further refuting the claims made, demanding that the site retract their article, issue a public apology to those accused, and allow an independant third party investigate the validity of their sources. The letter continues to question the validity of the anonymous sources, pointing out that employee ids are not used by the company at any office location.
- Lizzy comments via twitter that the id described looks similar to images provided by those conversing with her. Said images show generic RFID cards used by many many companies around the world (side note: the uni I work at uses these cards. I have several; didn't realise I was secretly a CIG insider
).- CIG employees show their "id cards" and prove that there is no identifying information such as names printed on them.
- The Freyermuth letter gives Escapist a 24 hour ultimatum to meet their demands or face legal action in the U.S. and the U.K.
- Freyermuth also states that to CIG's knowledge several other journalistic sites were offered this "inside information", suggesting this is not a case of separate individuals but of a coordinated effort. These other sites declined on the basis of no hard evidence substantiating the claims made.
- Derek Smart throughout all this giggles with childish glee.
Note that before all of this happened Escapist had also run several articles that (depending on who you ask) showed noticeable bias against the game. They have also been linked with Derek Smart (who's been campaigning against the game and depending on who you ask has been at odds with Roberts for several years predating Star Citizen) by way of him, Lizzy, and Escapist in general being supporters of GamerGate and "ethics in journalism", a hilarious case of irony to be sure. Also noteworthy is that Smart had recently been seeking the support of Gamergaters in his attacks against the game.
And as insane as Redditors are, they have nothing on ol' Smarty Pants (case in point, his recent outcries via twitter involve comparing Freyermuth to Hitler due to his name, and threatening to sue various people including industry exec Kevin Dent for arguing with him over the internet).
That's probably not everything, and some of it isn't in order correctly, but this plot is getting so twisty even George R. R. Martin wouldn't be able to disentangle it.
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Defintely! I think I spent 30% of the ~9hours it took me to complete the main game on the last boss.
Donationsloss of potential sales tho
not that I am complaining, mind
Word of mouth sales
Gifts
Higher spot on charts
Ain't no thang
Atraveller
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^you're good person.
And you gave GRRM too little credits.
Wow, holy shit! And thanks for the write-up, the whole thing reads like Escapist's final desperate attempt at gaining relevancy, though a gaming news outlet could survive a major screw-up like that, I mean people still go to Polygon after that Sim City bit.
And you gave GRRM too little credits.
David Fincher could probably make a good movie out of that material.
Chairmanchuck
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I backed There came an echo. Gave away the key on Gaf after I got the key by feeps giveaway like a true martyr!
(And still havent played it..)
(And still havent played it..)
Fuzzification
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They may not survive too well if CIG pursue legal action against the alleged libelous claims.
Still, the voice cast for Squadron 42 is apparently going to be revealed at CitizenCon this coming weekend. Mark Hamill ftw.
And GRRM may sadly be outmatched. To understand this drama in full is to both understand GamerGate and the mind of Derek Smart - a mathematical impossibility.
Could someone invite me to the Gaf Group on Steam?
http://steamcommunity.com/id/raphaellqr/ Feel free to add me if you want too!
http://steamcommunity.com/id/raphaellqr/ Feel free to add me if you want too!
Awwww I'm sure Thomas F. Wilson could do with the work and Malcolm McDowell will appear in practically anything you ask him too. Man I remember how painfully slow WC3 took to load up those FMV's on my shitty single speed CD drive way back when. Surprisingly worked though.
bobnowhere
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It took me an unhealthy amount of time to realise Sequence is now Before the Echo!
YianGaruga
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Nobel prize in medicine just went to parasite research.
Coincidence?
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