JoseOle5990
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Hey guys I'm gonna quote myself from the buy/sell/trade thread, I figured somebody would be interested in buying a copy of Monaco:
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Steam Summer Sale 2013 Thread #3 - Many questions answered in the OP's FAQ
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pock3tmonster
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Just wanted to pay respects and give a shout out to Deliverance for hosting a Monaco 4-pack and being so awesome. Thanks so much!
Steam games are like condoms, you can't give them away once they're used.
outunderthestars
Banned
I am not sure if I am going to be around for the end of the sale, so I figured this would be a good time to say thanks to everyone here. As someone just getting into PC gaming, these threads were super helpful, and pretty much everyone was damn awesome.
This week has been incredibly fun, and I made it through my Steam sale only spending $40.
Thanks for reminding me why GAF can be a really awesome place!
This week has been incredibly fun, and I made it through my Steam sale only spending $40.
Thanks for reminding me why GAF can be a really awesome place!
kurtrussell
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There's only one person buying those cards right now. You
Right. And this is the fundamental reason why all the "OMG! PEOPLE ARE SELLING TOO CHEAP AND RUINING TEH MARKET FOR EVERYONE!!111!!!! STUPID COMMUNITY" posts make me chuckle a bit.
There's a huge disparity between the perceived vale of, for argument's sake, a foil card between the seller and the purchaser.
Purchaser will simply not buy if it's too expensive. But seller's seem to think that if *all* cards have parity, then the seller will increase his expectations and what he is willing to pay. This simply does not happen in practice.
So ultimately, you hit a stalemate with an asking price that the seller is unwilling to reduce and the buyer is unwilling to pay. When you hit this point, the following happens:
1 - Someone throws the same item on but cheaper
2 - Seller panics and tries to buy up the cheaper item to artificially inflate the price
This can become a vicious circle, and you end up with sellers who own four or five of one item, without the capability to sell these cards on without making a loss. A very precarious position to be in.
Regardless, the main reason that this is a highly dangerous game to play is that the market is, by design, deflationary. Prices will always go down in the long term, because there is an infinite supply of new trading cards flooding onto the market, but a finite amount of users willing to purchase. As more and more users craft their badges, the need to buy these cards reduces further, causing more cards to be placed on the market. At the same time, more of these cards are dropping and being listed on the marketplace. Net result - prices regularly drop to more accurately reflect the buyer's perceived value.
Artificial price inflation is a game you cannot win. Someone will always be able to undercut you somewhere along the line and leave you holding a lot of real money's worth of fake trading cards.
In fact, IMHO the "problem" with the marketplace is not the sellers setting prices too low, but instead the sellers setting prices too high and expecting to make a quick profit from their fellow community members with minimal effort.
TLDR; Always remember that the market is driven by supply and buyer demand. The longer prices remain high or are artificially inflated the greater the probability of a huge correction.
How does he bypass the 30% cut to Valve when he still provides a steam key...?
BTW, does anyone else think Valve's 30% policy shouldn't be applied across the board? Seriously, give the indies a break...
pock3tmonster
Banned
There is a delay in receiving cards at the moment. You will get it at some point though so don't worry.
Kinky John
Member
All or nothing.
Am I the only person here who would buy the $3.99 listing? There's something about 3 or more listings from the same person that puts me off buying from them.
I guess Valve ran out of cards. Panic time?
Crimsonclaw111
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The game, or the act of?
kurtrussell
Banned
I'm not an expert, but doesn't the 30% cut only apply to sales made directly through Steam?
What's the matter? You don't like monopolies or something?
Valve can provide steam key to publishers at no cost.
It kinda screams "I'm trying to make money". That's why you should only put one up at a time!
This probably isn't the place to post this, but perhaps some gaffers could help me. I sometimes use the xbox 360 controller for games like Remember Me. Recently my system has been having issues recognizing the controller. It automatically lights up in the second player position, and seems to recognize everything except for the left thumb stick. Any ideas?
Nation Red is 80% @ $2. Grab it if you want to experience one of the best twinstick shooters on the market.
Heres a TotalBiscuit video when he was less of a douche.
Heres a TotalBiscuit video when he was less of a douche.
Servizio
I don't really need a tag, but I figured I'd get one to make people jealous. Is it working?
Actually, Dredmore has a ton of skills and items. And the Workshop lets you add even more.
Basically, when you start a new character you pick something like 8 or so skill sets to level up as you play. There's no real classes, since you mix and match between Dex, Str, and Int based skill sets.
The skill sets are usually a mix of orientations; melee, spells, crafting, ranged, and a lot more.
Some sets dovetail nicely with others, or are downright necessary. Crossbows seemed like they really needed tinkering to be worthwhile for instance.
I like Dredmore, but I've also heard other folks say it's crappy for a roguelike. I think mostly because you can get fucked over pretty hard by it's randomness. But it does let you choose between regular, savable progress and hardcore permadeath games.
I would as there is so much content in the Vanilla Version I won;t even get through that let alone DLC stuff.
Yes
Kinky John
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It kinda screams "I'm trying to make money". That's why you should only put one up at a time!
Yeah. Crayons remove one or more and see if that helps.
Done.
I sure do love communism.
I find this sorta awesome since I made that, and sorta sad that I'm tempted to buy one.
But Noogy, you're the one supposed to be making money off of cards! You get 10% of each card sold.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Heh, I saved 30 usd, now it seems I'm about to spend a total of 50.
Steam keys are provided to publishers free of charge with no strings attached. Valve doesn't see a cent from Steam key sales outside of Steam itself.
Cheers ill pm you when I'm ready$12.50 haha if you need help lemme know. just need to PayPal me
Thanks
Crimsonclaw111
Member
The funny thing is, that when you play the Steam Market, you cause it to sort of relapse for several hours while people try to desperately fling their cards away for cash.
outunderthestars
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I was wondering that myself as Anodyne came with a Steam key, even though I bought it direct. Pretty cool on Valve's part.
On the topic of Dust, I'm 5 hours in (51% by the game's progress indicator) and I'm loving it to death. I was thinking about juggling between around 3 games, Dust included during this weekend so I could advance a bit in each of them, but I think Dust is gonna take up all the time I have until I beat it. Lovely game.
Dongs Macabre
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Hmm, I might get it, then.
Are there any other games with customisation and lots of replay value? Preferably something cheap.
I'm tempted to start buying every Ginger Foil I see and contribute to your cause, because I believe in you and what you stand for. We're taking the whole system down!
Thanks, glad you are enjoying it
Play the first one as well. It's awesome.
neoism
Member
I buy too many gifts.
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Well, I'm headed to bed. RustyO, if you read this and you still want that copy of Monaco, please reply to my PM or add me on Steam...let's say, within the next twelve hours. If you've gotten cold feet that's fine, but someone else is interested in the game.
...Remind me never to host one of these again. What a clusterfuck, ha ha ha.
...Remind me never to host one of these again. What a clusterfuck, ha ha ha.
Thanks, glad you are enjoying it
And very much so. I've already convinced quite the number of friends to get it, some while it was on sale and some after. My gf is currently waiting for it to go on extra-sale-mode during the next 2 days to get it (and if it doesn't I'll probably end up buying it for her anyway) after seeing me play yesterday
I should probably write a Steam recommendation for the game soon. It's more than earned it. You're really skilled and you should feel proud. As a developer and wannabe game developer, Dust is an inspiration.
DrBaalzamon
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Anyone think we'll see Bioshock Infinite on sale again? Missed it initially and I really wanna pick it up :-(
I have that too, probably from an indie bundle. I'll definitely give it a go after 2, at least to see how much the game imrproved.
Prophane33
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I H8 Memes
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I enjoyed it when it came out and thought it was slightly underrated. IIRC it was not well received but I think that was mostly due to it being a departure from its roots. And besides it's at a price I can afford!. But I will still wait for the final day of sales to see if Giana Sisters maybe gets a bigger discount.
toddhunter
Member
I'd say if you missed it the first 7 times, you'll still be able to pick it up on one of the last 4 chances.
How big is the download? I'd probably give it a go for that price...but don't know if I'd be bothered with a big download.
CosmicQueso
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I was wondering that myself as Anodyne came with a Steam key, even though I bought it direct. Pretty cool on Valve's part.
Another genius business decision on Valve's part.... getting everyone in the ecosystem... smaaaaaart people up there.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Encore sales are your friend.
Krappadizzle
Member
I've found the best way to approach 4-packs is to just expect to have 3 extra of the games for at least 24 hours. It's not so bad. I've had buddies(from Gaf) that I'll gift a game and then won't be payed for 12 hours or so. People get busy in real life and sometimes things pop up. Also, be sure to not buy a game if it'll put you out financially.
I can say as far as Honorless is concerned though, I paypalled her $4.50 and she sent me the game 30 seconds later, if anyone is having cold feet with her.
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