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[brandonh83]

Never played any Thief games. Would they feel too outdated for a n00b?

 

[d1rtn4p]

I'll try it then, cheers.


Unless you're simply bored by the game, check out Kersch's great Let's Play: http://lparchive.org/Crusader-Kings-2/, it's how I learned to play the game.

Thank you! I'm going to.

 

[dark_inferno]

A Horror game that forces you to conserve ammo becomes an action game in the last 10 minutes? Why you mad?

Only in the last minutes? The only thing that i heard in the game was PEW PEW PEW BOOM. And the most scariest moment in the game was a drawn sun. A DRAWN SUN! Well that speaks for the scary factor of DS2.

And i have to go with SalsaShark. The Ending was awful. No wait, not only the ending the entire game was awful.

 

[Salsa]

weird how lots of games are going for $7.5. I feel like if they were all $5 instead that'd be the GAF sweet spot. A shame.

 

[Danielsan]

I'm super impatient, and since these are all so damn good, just bought you guys extra keys. Merry belated Xmas. Gimme a couple mins to PM.

You are absolutely too kind sir! Thank you and Merry Xmas!

 

[shintoki]

weird how lots of games are going for $7.5. I feel like if they were all $5 instead that'd be the GAF sweet spot. A shame.

A lot of sticklers have been happening. More 50-66% off on the newer titles than the typical 75%.

 

[Santiako]

I missed Dead Rising 2 OTR deal? FUCK, that was the game I was looking forward most to buy.

 

[Snapshot King]

Only in the last minutes? The only thing that i heard in the game was PEW PEW PEW BOOM. And the most scariest moment in the game was a drawn sun. A DRAWN SUN! Well that speaks for the scary factor of DS2.

And i have to go with SalsaShark. The Ending was awful. No wait, not only the ending the entire game was awful.

It's certainly a terrible horror game, but it was a fantastic action horror game. I can see if you went in there expecting classic survival horror how you would be disappointed.

 

[Salsa]

It's certainly a terrible horror game, but it was a fantastic action horror game. I can see if you went in there expecting classic survival horror how you would be disappointed.

it was Dead Space trying to be more grandiose and epic without realizing that what made the first one so good was that it felt personal, small, desolated, etc

3 looks like exactly that x100. It's gonna suck ass.

 

[cicero]

I didn't play much, because I didn't find the game appealing, but pretty much every gameplay session I had with the game went like this:

Ok, I need to find a place to.... wait, where is everybody. I'll try to follow them.

Oh shit there's a billion monsters coming my way I need to shoot them or I'll die.

Wait, everybody is missing. I guess I'll have to deal with these monsters by myself for now.

Ok, I wasted all my ammo but I killed these monsters and didn't die. Hope I get to the store to buy more ammo.

Oh shit the store closed just as I was getting there, because I can't navigate this fucking map and nobody is helping me, where should I go? Great, half went that way and the other half went that day.

Oh, it doesn't really matter as there are 8 billion exploding monsters coming my way and I only have these 3 pistol shots and I'm dead.

I'm usually a medic. The only good match if Killing Floor I had was during the christmas event where people were actually helping each other out and somebody was calling the shots, like "hey let's weld this door down" or "let's all cover these entrances".

Every other time was fucking mayhem and whatever.

yeah, it can be hard for people new to the game, but I kind of liked that hardness. It gets better once you have leveled a bit and figure things out. It also is much nicer for new players if you get around people who take the initiative, so you figure out how to play smarter and learn better strategies to get through various levels easier. Also, try easy or normal maps until you level up a bit before you decide to go to hard or suicidal.

 

[dark_inferno]

It's certainly a terrible horror game, but it was a fantastic action horror game. I can see if you went in there expecting classic survival horror how you would be disappointed.

I expected a horror game because one of the team said it wouldnt lack the horror moments from the first one after saying its more an action title. And he clearly lied to us.

 

[FlutterPuffs]

So I was excited to buy FM2013, only to found out that my card is barred due to not having enough minimum funds. (barely enough to cover the cost of the game)

Luckily a friend helped me out. Last game I'll buy for this sale though, as expected.

 

[Raxus]

Only in the last minutes? The only thing that i heard in the game was PEW PEW PEW BOOM. And the most scariest moment in the game was a drawn sun. A DRAWN SUN! Well that speaks for the scary factor of DS2.

And i have to go with SalsaShark. The Ending was awful. No wait, not only the ending the entire game was awful.

After 'the ship' the game takes a noticeable downturn IIRC but the last sequences are a big FU to any Deadspace player.

 

[Recall]

So which Thief game is the game to get?

 

[maty]

I didn't play much, because I didn't find the game appealing, but pretty much every gameplay session I had with the game went like this:

Ok, I need to find a place to.... wait, where is everybody. I'll try to follow them.

Oh shit there's a billion monsters coming my way I need to shoot them or I'll die.

Wait, everybody is missing. I guess I'll have to deal with these monsters by myself for now.

Ok, I wasted all my ammo but I killed these monsters and didn't die. Hope I get to the store to buy more ammo.

Oh shit the store closed just as I was getting there, because I can't navigate this fucking map and nobody is helping me, where should I go? Great, half went that way and the other half went that day.

Oh, it doesn't really matter as there are 8 billion exploding monsters coming my way and I only have these 3 pistol shots and I'm dead.

I'm usually a medic. The only good match if Killing Floor I had was during the christmas event where people were actually helping each other out and somebody was calling the shots, like "hey let's weld this door down" or "let's all cover these entrances".

Every other time was fucking mayhem and whatever.

Just like derExperte said the community is quite good, or at least in my case, the people I have played with have been really friendly and helped me learn a bit about the game.

I started playing a few months ago with the halloween event and now it is my second most played on steam.

Did you start playing on normal right away? Because I would not recommend that, the jump from beginner to normal is quite big. Also headshots, and more headshots. The best way to survive. Maybe you should try another perk like Support Specialist and shotgun your way out when in trouble and look for more ammo on the map

I used this guide to get started
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1980989

 

[1-D_FTW]

weird how lots of games are going for $7.5. I feel like if they were all $5 instead that'd be the GAF sweet spot. A shame.

My sweetspot is the pricing floor (under 10 dollars after the discount and 75 percent off). With my backlog, if they don't meet this, there's zero incentive for me to squirrel nuts away. The only reason I bought games I didn't need was the "Rainy Day scenario". But if they're not pricing them at the floor, I could care less. I'll buy when/if I ever want to actually play it under these circumstances.

 

[Snapshot King]

it was Dead Space trying to be more grandiose and epic without realizing that what made the first one so good was that it felt personal, small, desolated, etc

3 looks like exactly that x100. It's gonna suck ass.

I can see where you're coming from. My tastes seem broader than yours so DS2 was a blast, but now they're going so much broader and so shamelessly that I couldn't agree with you more about DS3, ugh.

 

[O.DOGG]

Dead Space 2 is so bad you guys

I mean whatever some of it is good

but that final section uggggggggggghhhhhhhhh

I think it's one of the best games of last year. I played through it 4 or 5 times. The final section is manageable if you know what you're doing. I consider it the best choice of the bunch but... you know, whatever. I already have it.

 

[Danielsan]

weird how lots of games are going for $7.5. I feel like if they were all $5 instead that'd be the GAF sweet spot. A shame.

Pretty much. As soon as game goes for around or below €5 it makes it way in the impulse buy territory for me. Sad as it may sound, €7,50 is too much for a random purchase.

 

[Raxus]

So which Thief game is the game to get?

Spoiler

*edit*At least Thief II

 

[phantomspiker]

So which Thief game is the game to get?

They are all great games, but Thief 2 is the best.

Also, Thief 2 got patched earlier this year, so it should be easy to get it running on modern machines.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=493104

 

[FauX]

I still have Bioshock 1 code for anyone who's willing to trade it. I would like any Single Player Steam Game you have available.

Please do not offer any multiplayer games.

Spoiler

Some dumb guy was asking me to trade games for dota 2 key, when everyone in this forum knows some people got it for free, shit!

 

[Volcynika]

Not sure if posted but The Last Remnant is on Amazon for $5.99. Steam activation required etc: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0081IONJ2/?tag=neogaf0e-20

 

[Salsa]

I can see where you're coming from. My tastes seem broader than yours so DS2 was a blast, but now they're going so much broader and so shamelessly that I couldn't agree with you more about DS3, ugh.

Pretty much yeah. Its not really a thing of my tastes not being broad tho as much as expecting something different from a series based on what the last entry was about. Dead Space 2 was bad because it didnt follow in line with what id want out of the series but it was also bad cause it was just bad at what it tried to do, IMO. I didnt enjoy most of the design decisions and that final section cemented it for me. Could have been so great.

The

Spoiler

return to the Ishimura

for example was the best part by far and an example of what the whole game could have been.

 

[Canis lupus]

Interested in the Thief collection, does it have good graphic mods? Not too outdated?

 

[drizzle]

yeah, it can be hard for people new to the game, but I kind of liked that hardness. It gets better once you have leveled a bit and figure things out. It also is much nicer for new players if you get around people who take the initiative, so you figure out how to play smarter and learn better strategies to get through various levels easier. Also, try easy or normal maps until you level up a bit before you decide to go to hard or suicidal.

That just sounds the worst game ever.

I don't think that a game where, to enjoy it, I have to play it many times until I memorized the map and the waves is that good in the first place.

Add in the fact that then a random idiot gets in and doesn't talk nor follow the group or does what we ask him to into the equation, preventing me from enjoying the game even through I already went through all the shit times trying to learn about it.

Yeah, I still don't get it why it's praised. IMO, shit has to either be easy to pick up and play and learn and be fun multiplayer, or balls hard single player. That way my fun is not hindered by others.

It's the exact same problem I have with Left4Dead: I can breeze through Normal even if the other teammates are idiots (and I keep saving them). Hard is impossible because there's some idiot constantly shooting me in the back with a Shotgun and nobody helps me when I'm grabbed.

 

[legacyzero]

Dead Space 2 is so bad you guys

I mean whatever some of it is good

but that final section uggggggggggghhhhhhhhh

I rather liked the last section. It was a pain in the ass, sure, but it was a good way to end it. Was very tense.

 

[O.DOGG]

Killing Floor DLC is now very reasonably priced. I suggest anyone with an interest in joining the party (or returning to it) have a look.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/1250/

I guess I've been semi-interested in playing this but not enough to buy it. And at $20 for the bundle, it won't be this sale it seems.

 

[derExperte]

I didn't play much, because I didn't find the game appealing, but pretty much every gameplay session I had with the game went like this:

Ok, I need to find a place to.... wait, where is everybody. I'll try to follow them.

All your problems come down to the fact that you're new. One has to know the maps at least a little as there are optimal spots where everyone usually runs to. The 3hrs you played (hope you don't mind that I looked at your profile) aren't nearly enough to get your bearings, begin to understand the machanics, weaknesses of the monsters, what weapon is good for what or level up anything (which is way more important than it may seem at first, also a low level medic is the most useless dude in the game). And even on normal there's hardly enough time to tell beginners what to do.

I don't think that a game where, to enjoy it, I have to play it many times until I memorized the map and the waves is that good in the first place.

Okay, then keep away from KF. Because that's why it's still so popular after years.

 

[brandonh83]

I still have Bioshock 1 code for anyone who's willing to trade it. I would like any Single Player Steam Game you have available.

I want Bioshock 1, but I don't have any games right now to trade for it, but I would be willing to spend around $5 for a game to trade with you.

 

[Snapshot King]

Pretty much yeah. Its not really a thing of my tastes not being broad tho as much as expecting something different from a series based on what the last entry was about. Dead Space 2 was bad because it didnt follow in line with what id want out of the series but it was also bad cause it was just bad at what it tried to do, IMO. I didnt enjoy most of the design decisions and that final section cemented it for me. Could have been so great.

The

Spoiler

return to the Ishimura

for example was the best part by far and an example of what the whole game could have been.

I completely agree with everything in your post. Well, cept for calling it bad, I loved it, but I'll agree that the

Spoiler

Ishimura

was absolutely the best part of the game. I loved many other parts though, as well.

 

[The_Monk]

Interested in the Thief collection, does it have good graphic mods? Not too outdated?

The only thing I remember that it's nice to have is a widescreen mod. It will make the game look better.

 

[Derrick01]

Thief 2 is one of the top 3 stealth games ever so get that collection people!

 

[drizzle]

All your problems come down to the fact that you're new. One has to know the maps at least a little as there are optimal spots where everyone usually runs to. The 3hrs you played (hope you don't mind that I looked at your profile) aren't nearly enough to get your bearings, begin to understand the machanics, weaknesses of the monsters, what weapon is good for what or level up anything (which is way more important than it may seem at first, also a low level medic is the most useless dude in the game). And even on normal there's hardly enough time to tell beginners what to do.

I understand that.

I'm just not willing to invest all that time and "study" the game when everybody I find online doesn't give a shit about me or doesn't answer anything I ask.

Specially because when I know about the game and will be willing to help people, they won't fucking listen to me either - already happens all the time on Team Fortress 2 Mann vs Machine mode and Left 4 Dead.

Like I said: if you have friends that are not complete idiots (Aka, are willing to invest the time to learn the game), I can see the appeal. Otherwise...

 

[phantomspiker]

Interested in the Thief collection, does it have good graphic mods? Not too outdated?

The first two games look their age, but still have great atmosphere. Thief 3's lighting and shadow effects still hold up pretty well I think.

 

[SolarPowered]

The

Spoiler

return to the Ishimura

for example was the best part by far and an example of what the whole game could have been.

More like it was an example of everything the game SHOULD have been. About 95% of the game felt like we were just walking from one scare to the next. Most of the tension came from the

Spoiler

eye machine

and returning to the

Spoiler

Ishimura

. It's like no one remembers how to set an atmosphere any more. Little to no subtlety left in games these days...

 

[Sianos]

Hmmm, any recommendations on The Last Remnant?

Think I'll pick up Thief 2 as well, I've heard that's the best one.

 

[FlutterPuffs]

Why get Thief 2 when Dishonored is superior.

Spoiler

Never even played Thief

 

[MRORANGE]

So I finally know what a game made by David Lynch will be like:

Hell of a drug:

 

[phantomspiker]

Why get Thief 2 when Dishonored is superior.

Spoiler

Never even played Thief

I'm glad you were joking, because shit was about to get real.

Dishonored is still a great game though!

 

[Last Baron]

Why on earth does the Civ IV complete pack have not only a separate entry for everything but two of everything?

 

[GAMERG0D]

Is Thief 2 even better than Chaos Theory?

 

[speculawyer]

Did Popcap bail on the PC as a platform? They haven't released anything since Bejeweled 3.

I guess it is all IOS, Android, and web?

 

[brandonh83]

Why get Thief 2 when Dishonored is superior.

Does Thief have annoying guards that curse repetitively through the entire game? If not, Thief is automatically the better game.

Seriously Dishonored seemed really cool, but then after 2 hours of STUPID GOD DAMN MUMBLE GRUMBLE I was done. That was some of the most annoying crap I've ever had to listen to in a game. One of my pet peeves is when NPC's repeat the same dialogue frequently, but the guards in Dishonored took that to a whole new level.

 

[SolarPowered]

Why on earth does the Civ IV complete pack have not only a separate entry for everything but two of everything?

It comes with windows versions and mac versions.

 

[cicero]

That just sounds the worst game ever.

I don't think that a game where, to enjoy it, I have to play it many times until I memorized the map and the waves is that good in the first place.

Add in the fact that then a random idiot gets in and doesn't talk nor follow the group or does what we ask him to into the equation, preventing me from enjoying the game even through I already went through all the shit times trying to learn about it.

Yeah, I still don't get it why it's praised. IMO, shit has to either be easy to pick up and play and learn and be fun multiplayer, or balls hard single player. That way my fun is not hindered by others.

It's the exact same problem I have with Left4Dead: I can breeze through Normal even if the other teammates are idiots (and I keep saving them). Hard is impossible because there's some idiot constantly shooting me in the back with a Shotgun and nobody helps me when I'm grabbed.

You are dealing with a somewhat larger and more punishing learning curve with a definite need and emphasis on quality teamplay. You will most definitely have issues and end up dying many times because of that punishing curve, but when it goes right it is great, and the community is definitely a good one that does get it right much of the time. I think the game is great, one of my all-time best values in terms of games purchased on Steam. It may not be your cup of tea, but if I were you I would read through some of the guides mentioned in an earlier post and give it another chance!

 

[speculawyer]

Why on earth does the Civ IV complete pack have not only a separate entry for everything but two of everything?

Mac Version. For some reason Civ 4 has 2 entires instead of 1.

 

[phantomspiker]

Is Thief 2 even better than Chaos Theory?

I think so, but I'm not a fan of the Splinter Cell games at all.

 

[blindrocket]

Hmm... Steampowered.com now only shows prices for games in € and not dollars.

How do I fix this?!

 

[Snuggles]

Did Popcap bail on the PC as a platform? They haven't released anything since Bejeweled 3.

I guess it is all IOS, Android, and web?

They haven't released anything new since Bejeweled 3 outside of Solitaire Blitz (Facebook) and a few ports like Zuma's Revenge on XBLA and Plants Vs. Zombies on Vita.

Plants vs. Zombies 2 was announced a few months back, though, and it's definitely coming to PC sometime in 2013.