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Stern: 'Girls' star Lena Dunham 'is a little fat girl who looks like Jonah Hill...'
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FatboyRoberts, like many, lives in an Internet bubble. Calling Howard Stern a "glorified podcaster" says all you need to know. Remember Jeff Gerstmann's multiple best selling books?
Bobby Roberts
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What the fuck does Jeff Gerstmann have to do with any of this? What a weird comparison point.
Radio died. Stern leaving didn't help its overall health, even. But what he does now is essentially podcasting. He just got a satellite company to foot the bill for it.
Seriously, everyone listens to music on their phones.
Radio isn't even the primary source where young people discover new music anymore.
so because they buy advertisements it's a bad business model
you're a moron who makes these large claims, yet is so far away from the real world that you don't know what the hell you're talking about
I live in Philadelphia
there are a ton of really good radio personalities in this city, and that people like to listen too
There are 2 successful sports radio stations, that all produce content by themselves. THe only syndicated shows they run are 97.5 the fanatic which runs Mike & Mike in the morning and random ESPN guy at night, while 94.1 WIP runs all original content. Sports talk radio is a pretty huge industry that'll never die, there's always going to be that niche, especially in cities like Philadelphia
Not only that but we have a few successful classic rock stations, soft rock stations, and many a lot of really popular hip hop and pop stations
Just because you are a rich white nerd who can stream content to his car, doesn't mean your the average person. There are hundreds of thousands potential listeners at one time.
Not only that, car manufacturers are adding things in like Sirius XM (which btw, runs like a radio station, they just get their money in different ways) and HD Radio. And yes, you can be the DJ, but a lot of people like to listen to music they possibly have never heard from before.
Im sorry that you feel the way you do, but people have been saying Radio has been dying for a long time now. It's been steady for a while
also, you can't get something like sports talk radio, news radio, or even pop culture radio from pre-recorded robot voices. That's content that is still veyr popular on radio, and won't be changed for a while.
fuck you people with your high standards normal people are sexier than "hollywood" people
i wanna explore some flaps
i don't even have high standards, she's just average
SteveWinwood
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Furthermore here's a fun post: http://stateofthemedia.org/2012/audio-how-far-will-digital-go/audio-by-the-numbers/
Edit: Oh he already went crazy nevermind.
average is good
Boards of Canada
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Why are we even talking about this? He has an opinion that she's a fat girl that looks like Jonah Hill. It's pretty funny.
Autumn Wind
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I like Girls and am looking forward to Season 2 tonight and I still think Stern is okay. The image did make me smirk a little though.
SlowRevolution
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this seems just as screwed up to me as saying all women should be outrageously skinny
you don't need to either look like dunham or nicole richie, neither of those are ideal.
Boards of Canada
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Bobby Roberts
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I'm not a rich white nerd, for the love of Christ. The amount of money I make in a year is pretty comparable to, say, a board op or a late-night (7pm-12am) jock at most music-based radio stations. The barrier to streaming content in your car is really, really low right now. It is not an upper-middle class thing in the slightest. The conception of it being a such is one of the problems radio has had when it comes to adaptation to the shifting market. Or rather, one of the excuses confused executives whip out when they don't wanna change the way they do things because they're rather comfortable using the models they came up with, models that essentially stopped working optimally somewhere around 1997.
How you can say I'm so far away from "the real world" without acknowledging how dead on I'm nailing your industry (which, as I'm hoping can be drawn from the context of my posts, I've worked in for a considerable amount of time) tells me you either just got into it, or have been shined on by someone in your company that there's still potential for the industry to regain its marketshare.
It won't. Will companies like Clear Channel manage to stay afloat? Yes, of course, in diminished capacities. They won't be what they were, ever again. And they'll exist primarily on the internet. But it won't be "Radio" anymore. It pretty much already isn't. You're in one of the largest markets in the country (Arbitron has you guys at #7) and there is no way you can tell me that industry is still as strong in Philadelphia as it was in 2003, or 2008.
And stop with the idea that radio actually breaks new music. It hasn't done that in forever. Radio hasn't created a legitimate star in about 15 years. And all the talk-radio dinosaurs are slowly dying out, to be replaced by... nobody. Because the people concerned with filling that niche, are already filling it on the internet via YouTube channels, podcasts, etc.
The itch that radio used to scratch got democratized entirely. You are working in an industry stuck in an inexorable decline.
Again - use the time you have in that industry to build up a hell of a portfolio, and acquire skills you know can transition to other jobs. A lot of the salespeople I used to know have ended up getting work selling ads for television stations, working in PR, helping promote events, things along those lines. You know why? Because a lot of the salespeople I know from radio aren't in radio anymore. Because their stations were either flipped or outright turfed. They didn't quit. The industry quit them. It's quitting a LOT of people.
starchild excalibur
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I appreciate Lena Dunham's willingness and comfort with her body. I don't find her especially hot or attractive, but I think it's great to see someone who has a more average body feel the most comfortable with exposing that despite the pressures women face especially in the media. Tiny Furniture may have sucked, but she's really won me over with Girls and her response to Stern.
Exactly. I think Stern's quote and some of the quotes in this thread are perhaps some of the reasons why she does what she does. Not so much to be an attention whore, but to say "fuck it" to the idea that only girls who look like Jessica Biel are allowed to be sexual on TV shows.
Exactly. I think Stern's quote and some of the quotes in this thread are perhaps some of the reasons why she does what she does. Not so much to be an attention whore, but to say "fuck it" to the idea that only girls who look like Jessica Biel are allowed to be sexual on TV shows.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Move out of Mississippi.
It's easy to hate on the naked chick when she's always naked and doesn't look good.
No, average is average. Good is good.
Why do people always bring up Jonah Hill being a fat guy? Why do people say things like "he was funnier when he was fat"?
Isn't that kind of the point?
People aren't just calling her chubby. A lot of discussion about her focuses on how unattractive she is, to which it usually gets deflected by how talented she is. Then it goes in circles.
Ghost_Protocol
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If we're going to start criticizing Howard Stern, then neogaf might as well just end right now.
Sure, if that guy kept getting naked for no reason.
I understand that it's common for a white person to only hang with a closed group of other similar white people. BUT on the show, she lives and ventures into diverse Brooklyn neighborhoods (Greenpoint, Prospect), but said diversity is completely invisible/ignored on her show. It's fucking jarring and a big deal for the people who live in Bk, who are already highly underrepresented in television and other media. At least the other shows that pull this crap have the "defense" of taking place in expensive areas of lower Manhattan.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/19/girls-racist-judd-apatow_n_1437786.html
The show's claims about speaking for a "generation" are insulting considering it's a very limited subset of middle and upper-middle class white/Jewish girls living in this city who already get lots of attention. This is just the latest popular show set in NY that does this shit -- the only time minorities are prominently featured are as criminals or victims in cop shows.
In other words: the show will be on long enough to include just enough temporary token minorities whose sole existence and purpose revolves around the cast of white characters. We won't dare alienate our self-absorbed, 20-something target audience by introducing realistic diversity in a NYC setting.
MarauderShields
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I didnt want Dennis Franz to show his ass either
I guess that's true.
I don't think it's without reason though. The one girl you'd rather not see naked on the show is the only one to show nudity. I always saw that as the point.
One of the later episodes in the season, where you see her parents naked (well, mom's breasts and dad fully naked), fits that. Nudity less being about appealing to the audience.
Something Wicked
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Can HBO pay me to write an awful, wanna-be edgy comedy series?
It's pretty depressing how much crap HBO has green-lighted over the last few years.
Where do you live? Milwaukee?
It's pretty depressing how much crap HBO has green-lighted over the last few years.
Where do you live? Milwaukee?
dave is ok
aztek is ok
Girls is on one day a week, so basically the same amount as Sterns show
brianjones
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SapientWolf
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I think something along these lines is the source of Howard's frustration. Which he vents in typical Howard Stern fashion.
starchild excalibur
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If your comedy was good in the "people actually like it, watch it, and rate it highly" sense then yes. if your comedy is good in the "Well, as someone with an opinion I think my writing is good and that Girls' writing is bad" sense, then no.
kinda does. i mean, not that there's anything wrong with that. just, technically, and all..
radios shipping overview
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Marnie being nude on the show would be completely at odds with how uptight the character is. The only other character besides Hannah that I'd expect to see in the buff is Jessa.
I'd hate to see how many people in America are fat if that's metric lmao
have you seen a doctor wielding a set of BMI calipers within the last 15-20 years? 50% of America is overweight or something like that.
It's only embarassing when you're trying to grab a handful of hip in the dark and end up pinching her muffintop
Marnie needs to break out in a roofie addled orgy. That I would watch. Once.
Anyway- good for Lena I guess. The new Cody diablo.
Stern is right though and Lena even seems to sorta agree.
Only saw the show twice. Was plenty. Self absorbed people I could care less about.
Holler when game of thrones gets closer and here's to more Emilia Clarke nudity!
Anyway- good for Lena I guess. The new Cody diablo.
Stern is right though and Lena even seems to sorta agree.
Only saw the show twice. Was plenty. Self absorbed people I could care less about.
Holler when game of thrones gets closer and here's to more Emilia Clarke nudity!
I know numerous people with flaps that would not even come close to being called overweight based off BMI.
brianjones
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what.. uptight people have sex with their clothes on?
samus i am
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Terrible show, terrible writer, unattractive as well.
Baconsammy
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Girls was quite literally the worst bit of TV I watched all of last year. And I watched The Newsroom and part of X Factor.
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