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Stern: 'Girls' star Lena Dunham 'is a little fat girl who looks like Jonah Hill...'

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iddqd

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Lena Dunham has wrote 1 TV show that has lasted for a single year

Howard Stern is probably the most famous radio personality on earth

USA = not everyone on earth.
I understand that todays media is 80% focused on shit going on in LA and New York but
I think you are overestimating his fame in the world.
 
USA = not everyone on earth.
I understand that todays media is 80% focused on shit going on in LA and New York but
I think you are overestimating his fame in the world.

He's really fallen out of relevance as well. Why the fuck would he be a judge on America's Got Talent if he really was the king of some media empire or whatever.
 

maharg

idspispopd
I understand that it's common for a white person to only hang with a closed group of other similar white people. BUT on the show, she lives and ventures into diverse Brooklyn neighborhoods (Greenpoint, Prospect), but said diversity is completely invisible/ignored on her show. It's fucking jarring and a big deal for the people who live in Bk, who are already highly underrepresented in television and other media. At least the other shows that pull this crap have the "defense" of taking place in expensive areas of lower Manhattan.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/19/girls-racist-judd-apatow_n_1437786.html

The show's claims about speaking for a "generation" are insulting considering it's a very limited subset of middle and upper-middle class white/Jewish girls living in this city who already get lots of attention. This is just the latest popular show set in NY that does this shit -- the only time minorities are prominently featured are as criminals or victims in cop shows.



In other words: the show will be on long enough to include just enough temporary token minorities whose sole existence and purpose revolves around the cast of white characters. We won't dare alienate our self-absorbed, 20-something target audience by introducing realistic diversity in a NYC setting.

The show definitely is problematic in its presentation of diversity, and Apatow's responses to that criticism (which I hadn't seen before) are also problematic. But Lena Dunham's responses have been, I think, worthy of being given the chance for the show to change. I think, at the very least, she does care and whatever she does next will be better. She obviously comes from privilege, but I think she's more aware of it than most people in her position.

I also don't think she believes for one second that she's speaking for a generation, though.
 

Dead Man

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I have to choose a person making a new show or a tired old radio hack, I think I will go with the person making something new, even though I have no idea who she is.
 
Pandering with token black and Hispanic characters in the show is a million times worse than the cast being entirely white. That's why we're gonna end up with a hack like Donald Glover in the show even though he's awful in everything.
 

vidcons

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I also don't think she believes for one second that she's speaking for a generation, though.

yeah, i thought that was pretty obvious in the first episode where her character gets drugged out and has a breakdown in front of her parents in a hotel room.

i really dislike that lots of people can't phrase their dislike for GIRLS without it coming off as some sexist "Well if a girl is going to get her own show, then she better damn well be the best candidate."
 

Klocker

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Can HBO pay me to write an awful, wanna-be edgy comedy series?

It's pretty depressing how much crap HBO has green-lighted over the last few years.




Where do you live? Milwaukee?

haha Arizona... seriously hot chicks here no doubt, but in relation to the entire population of US. I am correct.
based on my expert opinion of course ;)
 
I also don't think she believes for one second that she's speaking for a generation, though.

It probably didn't help that some of the marketing seemed to highlight that line from the pilot as if it were sincere. Which is the exact opposite of how it was actually meant.
 

Riggs

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Howard was right about precious. And he's right about this. Big foot Jr says deal with it or he'll fuck you with his big cock it is.
 
Lena Dunham is an odd case. I find her thoroughly mediocre, yet she seems to be weirdly polarizing.

I'm equally perplexed by the love and the hate. She's just so meh to me.
 

McLovin

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Its Howard Stern though, its his job to be controversial. He's got to stay relevant somehow you know. And it might have been an insult but it got more people talking about Lena Dunham. I've never seen her show or even seen what she looked like. Now I know.
 

Riggs

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Its Howard Stern though, its his job to be controversial. He's got to stay relevant somehow you know. And it might have been an insult but it got more people talking about Lena Dunham. I've never seen her show or even seen what she looked like. Now I know.

This isn't controversial lol. It's a 4 page thread on neogaf.
 

Pyronite

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I like Girls. Good writing, interesting set of characters, real character progression. I'm not sure why it's received as much outright hate as it has, considering the amount of pablum on television in general. 90% of what you find on network television is outright insulting to intelligence.
 
Its Howard Stern, guys. This would be like trying to make a headline out of "South Park creators: hate celebrities, make fun of Justin Bieber in latest episode!"
 
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Pyronite

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Buncha haters.

(Also, you linked to a page in an image tag.)

She got the job because of Apatow and on the strength of her earlier work. Most of the people she's recruited were friends.

This whole "nepotism" thing would be a problem if it weren't like, y'know, one of the best received shows in the past X years.
 
Buncha haters.

(Also, you linked to a page in an image tag.)

She got the job because of Apatow and on the strength of her earlier work. Most of the people she's recruited were friends.

This whole "nepotism" thing would be a problem if it weren't like, y'know, one of the best received shows in the past X years.

The girl who is Mamet's daughter is the fucking worst. She was on Mad Men and stunk up every scene she was in-I looked her up on IMDB and then was all like "Ok well at least this makes sense."
 

Pyronite

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The girl who is Mamet's daughter is the fucking worst. She was on Mad Men and stunk up every scene she was in-I looked her up on IMDB and then was all like "Ok well at least this makes sense."

Her character is good on Girls. I thoroughly enjoyed the "accidentally smoking crack" plotline.
 
what.. uptight people have sex with their clothes on?

Dunham's nudity is about her making herself vulnerable. I don't see Allison Williams or her character making herself that vulnerable onscreen. She's a steel trap.


I like the show, but that's the truth. It's a show about entitled girls played by entitled girls. Maybe that helps the show work (and helps the characters be particularly unbearable).
 

Isak_Borg

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Buncha haters.

(Also, you linked to a page in an image tag.)

She got the job because of Apatow and on the strength of her earlier work. Most of the people she's recruited were friends.

This whole "nepotism" thing would be a problem if it weren't like, y'know, one of the best received shows in the past X years.

I've watched the show a couple of times and I'm not a fan but know a lot of women who enoy it and can relate. I think some of the discussion about her weight, looks and nepotism is kind of irrelevant since she has shown to be a talented writer/actress, you don't like something doesn't make it bad.

My main issue with the show is their depiction of Brooklyn. I'm actually from Williamsburg, Brooklyn, hangout in Green Point, Bushwick and other surrounding areas and someone like me(Hispanic Male) is not really depicted on the show. I don't think it's a problem with this show in particular but something that is prevalent throughout most TV series.

It's sad that in 2013 we're talking about someone's looks instead of what their contributing which is a lot more important. I would definitely go out with her not on the basis of her looks but her intelligence.
 
In this world. Girls gets near universally acclaim for a reason. People, a lot of people, love it.

People love it? I don't think that's a fair assessment. Critics certainly love it, but the viewer reaction has been pretty divided.

In fact the wild overreactions by critics are what have engendered most of the backlash to the show in my opinion.

If it was honestly assessed as what it is, another niche mediocre HBO half-hour (see: Bored to Dead, Hung, or How to Make it in America) that is okay to watch but far from a must-see, Dunham wouldn't have received a tenth of the criticism she has.
 

richiek

steals Justin Bieber DVDs
I've never seen the show, but I've seen these billboards all over NYC:

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At first, I thought it was Kate Hudson.
 

kingocfs

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Show is good, but I don't really get why it's so intensively polarizing. Did people get this upset about Sex and the City?
 

wenis

Registered for GAF on September 11, 2001.
Dunham's nudity is about her making herself vulnerable. I don't see Allison Williams or her character making herself that vulnerable onscreen. She's a steel trap.



I like the show, but that's the truth. It's a show about entitled girls played by entitled girls. Maybe that helps the show work (and helps the characters be particularly unbearable).

The that should be the actual poster if that's the point they want to get across. The average viewer isn't going to take that meaning away from the show. They'll just think it's a show about spoiled brats who want the world without much work.
 
The that should be the actual poster if that's the point they want to get across. The average viewer isn't going to take that meaning away from the show. They'll just think it's a show about spoiled brats who want the world without much work.

This show is about our generation! They just don't understand how hard it is to be meeeeeee
 
the way she constantly gets naked on the show and is the only girl to do so is kind of oppressive

Yeah, so annoying. Why is the only girl on the show that I don't want to see naked constantly getting naked? I'm expecting more naked fat chick this season. Fat chick sitting on toilet eating cupcake
 

vidcons

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People love it? I don't think that's a fair assessment. Critics certainly love it, but the viewer reaction has been pretty divided.

In fact the wild overreactions by critics are what have engendered most of the backlash to the show in my opinion.

If it was honestly assessed as what it is, another niche mediocre HBO half-hour (see: Bored to Dead, Hung, or How to Make it in America) that is okay to watch but far from a must-see, Dunham wouldn't have received a tenth of the criticism she has.

this is the problem

dumb people are subscribing to hbo
 

jon bones

hot hot hanuman-on-man action
this is the problem

dumb people are subscribing to hbo

yeah i saw he threw "bored to death" in with the others and was like woah bad taste alert!

also gotta love the neckbeards who think stern is hilarious for calling an actress fat
 
The that should be the actual poster if that's the point they want to get across. The average viewer isn't going to take that meaning away from the show. They'll just think it's a show about spoiled brats who want the world without much work.

That is a perfectly valid reading of the show.

I'd be more worried about viewers watching the show and sympathizing completely with the characters, i.e. not understanding how flawed their perspectives are.
 

Isak_Borg

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The difference is Entourage actually thought its characters were likable, decent human beings. Girls is well aware its characters aren't.

Entourage was Dude Bro fan fiction, while girls' is attempting to...I have no clue WTF the show is trying to do since I've only watched a couple of episodes.
 
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