Hellraizah
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Dreamcast was good yes, but for 2D, it was a Neo Geo wannabe.Lazy8s said:
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Stinger strikes again: SF4 @ JAMMA plus more...
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Hellraizah said:
Neo Geo isn't technically better for 2D as far as I heard.
Anyway, Street Fighter 4 would rock so much it might make my head explode.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
anotheriori said:
Ah, now there's the rub; so much of the talent that put their all into MvC2, CvS2, and SF3 are scattered to the four winds. Cap's in the black; they can afford to rehire them.
any reason they wouldnt go with naomi for sf4, like how many naomi and atomiswave systems are out there?
edit- nevermind, sorta:
http://www.cave-online.jp/game/otb/index.html
http://www.insertcredit.com/archives/000473.html
thats just the guilty gear setup afaik. not sure if it uses jamma+ or jvs or some custom thing for its controls. should be fine with 6 buttons though. pictures of the guilty gear panels on sanwas site: http://www.sanwa-d.co.jp/p_panel.htm
i can understand the shooter...but anyone have a clue about what 'online tank battle' is?
edit- nevermind, sorta:
http://www.cave-online.jp/game/otb/index.html
http://www.insertcredit.com/archives/000473.html
ChennehCis
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jarrod said:
=O
Too awesome if it's real
captmcblack
Member
Ferrio said:
Hmm.
Yes, [insert what.gif here].
Kleegamefan
K. LEE GAIDEN
Ferrio said:
Whatever dude...
Spec:
CPU : Hitachi SH-4 64-bit RISC CPU (200 MHz 360 MIPS / 1.4 GFLOPS)
Graphic Engine : PowerVR 2 (PVR2DC)
Sound Engine : ARM7 Yamaha AICA 45 MHZ (with internal 32-bit RISC CPU, 64 channel ADPCM)
Main Ram : 32 megs
Main Memory : 16 MByte
Graphic Memory : 16 MByte
Sound Memory : 8 MByte
Media : ROM Board
Simultaneous Number of Colors : Approx. 16,770,000 (24bits)
Polygons : 2.5 Million polys/sec
Rendering Speed : 500 M pixel/sec
Additional Features : Bump Mapping, Fog, Alpha-Bending (transparency), Mip Mapping (polygon-texture auto switch), Tri-Linear Filtering, Anti-Aliasing, Environment Mapping, and Specular Effect.
Network : It is possible to connect the systems on the network using both 56K modem or broadband connection using the AW-Net.
It's basically a Dreamcast with more RAM. So it should be able to handle high resolution. They went with this instead of Lindberg(much faster processor with PVR series 5 graphics) because the hardware is much cheaper and a lot of arcades already have it.
CPU : Hitachi SH-4 64-bit RISC CPU (200 MHz 360 MIPS / 1.4 GFLOPS)
Graphic Engine : PowerVR 2 (PVR2DC)
Sound Engine : ARM7 Yamaha AICA 45 MHZ (with internal 32-bit RISC CPU, 64 channel ADPCM)
Main Ram : 32 megs
Main Memory : 16 MByte
Graphic Memory : 16 MByte
Sound Memory : 8 MByte
Media : ROM Board
Simultaneous Number of Colors : Approx. 16,770,000 (24bits)
Polygons : 2.5 Million polys/sec
Rendering Speed : 500 M pixel/sec
Additional Features : Bump Mapping, Fog, Alpha-Bending (transparency), Mip Mapping (polygon-texture auto switch), Tri-Linear Filtering, Anti-Aliasing, Environment Mapping, and Specular Effect.
Network : It is possible to connect the systems on the network using both 56K modem or broadband connection using the AW-Net.
It's basically a Dreamcast with more RAM. So it should be able to handle high resolution. They went with this instead of Lindberg(much faster processor with PVR series 5 graphics) because the hardware is much cheaper and a lot of arcades already have it.
Im writing down the names of every single person silly enough to think that SF4 is gonna be announced, at JAMMA of all places, for future mockery. The series is owned by Capcom USA, and they are not going to annouce an arcade game (like there is an arcade market in the states), on a platform with no functionally equivalent market viable home console, at a show that the US market mostly ignores. You guys honestly think that Capcom USA would make an arcade game for a non-existant market just to port the code from a souped up dreamcast to one of the next gen consoles... Use your heads people. Seriously.
Secondly I would be absolutely 100% shocked that Sega would annouce 5 lindbergh games at one show. 5 franchise arcade titles all be shown at the same time? The arcade market in Japan is healthier than the states, but not <THAT> healthy. 5 games... That's not gonna happen either...
This Stinger dude has absolutely no idea what he is talking about.
Secondly I would be absolutely 100% shocked that Sega would annouce 5 lindbergh games at one show. 5 franchise arcade titles all be shown at the same time? The arcade market in Japan is healthier than the states, but not <THAT> healthy. 5 games... That's not gonna happen either...
This Stinger dude has absolutely no idea what he is talking about.
Hydro_Alexis
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Hooker said:
When the controller is unknown and apprantly it is supposed to not have a d pad? i love nintendo but no thank you.
Oh man I hope Street Fighter 4 is true. I kind of believe it is because of all the rumors lately. Also, Capcom USA now owns the rights to Street Fighter so I have no idea who would be the developer. It's very possible they had the old Street Fighter team make it. If this is true I'm also betting that all the art is done by Udon and I'm betting the story is done by them too. I remember reading a bunch of rumors about Udon working on a new Street Fighter game when Capcom USA bought the rights from Capcom Japan. The hardware makes perfect sense too since Capcom no longer makes their own arcade hardware and most 2D games are on Atomiswave now anyways.
Actually, Stinger conceded he got his wires crossed on those. Daytona 3 turned out to be DC Daytona 2001 and Daytona Live turned out to just be the expanded Xbox Outrun 2. He also mentioned Sega Rally 3 may not be 100%, and it may simply refer to the PS2 Sega Rally 2005.xexex said:
Probably to display high quality realtime 3D. The Tekken Pachislot game uses System 246 similarly.drohne said:
GoutPatrol
Forgotten in his cell
I will need a new pair of pants if this is indeed true.
I want SF4 more than anything.
I want SF4 more than anything.
Yeah... The more I think about it, the sillier it seems for SF4 to be at this show.
I do believe it could happen, though. Eventually. Want to know what's even more amazing? I think Capcom USA could do a better job with it than stuff like CFJ. Western developers have caught up in one way or another in every other genre, so that'd be interesting to see.
I do believe it could happen, though. Eventually. Want to know what's even more amazing? I think Capcom USA could do a better job with it than stuff like CFJ. Western developers have caught up in one way or another in every other genre, so that'd be interesting to see.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
op_ivy said:
If my penis was a huge, Mode-7 sprite, I would. Furiously.
As for SF4, Hugo approves.
Shogmaster
Member
eso76 said:
Seriously. I don't know why people would think ancient stuff like Neo Geo is better at 2D than more modern DC and AW. DC and AW have like tons more RAM to store animation frames, and can do many more FXs with 2D image via mapping them as textures.
2D is just 3D without the Z plane, people.
Jeffahn said:
:lol Those are caps from my E3 video.
Shogmaster said:
They've been up there for a while. The video is also still available:
http://www.xboxyde.com/leech_1399_en.html
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Shogmaster
Member
Jeffahn said:
So glad that my evil deed is helping so many. :lol
Hurricane_Chris
DDK
There's a game coming out called Jungle Fever? Unfortunate title...
QFStupidity.Ferrio said:
Anyways, I'm really excited for this, as I'm almost 100% sure it'll be 2D. The thing is, there are also probably going to be 3 interations of this game (for balance and throwing in extra characters) so I'm not TOO excited. I love the balance in 3rd Strike (it isn't perfect but still), but I don't think developers can really 'see' the tiers when they make the characters.
Shogmaster
Member
Tain said:
That's nonsense. Carts use to be relatively fast compared to optical media at dumping data to RAM, but the data still must be moved into RAM to be used.
RAM has always been and will always remain, an issue.
Shogmaster
Member
Tain said:
64KByte RAM + 64KByte VRAM was about the norm for 16bit era.
NeoGeo CD bombed because it had a dirt slow CD drive. Took forever to load stuff compared to the cart system.
edit: Kinda weird too, since 1x CD drive (512KB/sec) should be able to transfer the 128KB of RAM in less than a second. But I distinctly remember tryng out the NeoGeo CD at summer CES in Chicago ('91? '92? '93? I don't remember) and waiting 12+ fucking seconds for the thing to load before playing, and thinking how unbearably slow it was.... Was the NeoGeo CD even slower than 1x CD-ROM drives?!?
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