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ricardo_sousa11

ricardo_sousa11

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Ass of Can Whooping said:
You did your DD and valued it at $25

You are 100% just going FOMO now. We warned you
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no, i said i valued the company at 25$ without the squeeze.

you warned me? People have been telling me to sell since it hit 14 lulz

dont get me wrong, but its really a waste to talk to people that aren’t knowledgeable in this like i am, as I said, the homework is already done, this is just the start.

most of you didnt think it would hit 20$ let alone 60$, i’ve been investing for years, I know what im doing, i have an exit plan, but its going much higher than this.

my first amc purchase was at 4$, i’ve been on this for months.

even now in premarket its already 74.75, and not a single short has been covered.
 
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GHG

GHG

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ricardo_sousa11 said:
no, i said i valued the company at 25$ without the squeeze.

you warned me? People have been telling me to sell since it hit 14 lulz

dont get me wrong, but its really a waste to talk to people that aren’t knowledgeable in this like i am, as I said, the homework is already done, this is just the start.

most of you didnt think it would hit 20$ let alone 60$, i’ve been investing for years, I know what im doing, i have an exit plan, but its going much higher than this.

my first amc purchase was at 4$, i’ve been on this for months.

even now in premarket its already 74.75, and not a single short has been covered.
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Short data is delayed by a couple of days at the very least.

The suggestion is not to sell everything either. The suggestion, especially at this stage, is for you to de-risk yourself which means getting your initial investment back. As with everything in the stock market, everything is fine until it's suddenly not.
 
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ricardo_sousa11

ricardo_sousa11

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Ass of Can Whooping said:
A lot of people did fine with GME too

Doesn't change the fact it was gambling
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Gambling where? Because they made quick money?

this is not a gamble, stop saying that just because you dont know whats going.

i already said this earlier but your skepticism is whats stoping you from making money. Trust the process.

you get in the stock market to make money, thats it, everything is a gamble. This is as fundamental as it gets, when they start covering i start selling.

if im so wrong, then they are far worse, yesterday alone they lost 2.75Bn$ On amc alone. They gamble your future away without batting an eye, as soon as the retailer starts making money everyone keeps saying to cashout, like its a loterry ticket.

This is obvious, and i wont start taking advice from people that don’t know whats happening now.
 
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Ass of Can Whooping

Ass of Can Whooping

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ricardo_sousa11 said:
Gambling where? Because they made quick money?

this is not a gamble, stop saying that just because you dont know whats going.

i already said this earlier but your skepticism is whats stoping you from making money. Trust the process.

you get in the stock market to make money, thats it, everything is a gamble. This is as fundamental as it gets, when they start covering i start selling.

if im so wrong, then they are far worse, yesterday alone they lost 2.75Bn$ On amc alone. They gamble your future away without batting an eye, as soon as the retailer starts maling money everyone keeps saying to cashout, like its a loterry ticket.
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What process? Go invest in a random shorted stock and hope It becomes the next GME or AMC?

Good lord man you're delusional

I thought you were "investing" in AMC based on their fundementals. Not to ride the meme train you happened to get a ticket for
 
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ricardo_sousa11

ricardo_sousa11

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Ass of Can Whooping said:
What process? Go invest in a random shorted stock and hope It becomes the next GME or AMC?

Good lord man you're delusional

I thought you were "investing" in AMC based on their fundementals. Not to ride the meme train you happened to get a ticket for
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You’re delusional if you think this is random.

i was one of the first people here to advise others to buy it, even when it was down for months.

we’ll see whos right later on.
 
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GHG

GHG

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ricardo_sousa11 said:
Gambling where? Because they made quick money?

this is not a gamble, stop saying that just because you dont know whats going.

i already said this earlier but your skepticism is whats stoping you from making money. Trust the process.

you get in the stock market to make money, thats it, everything is a gamble. This is as fundamental as it gets, when they start covering i start selling.

if im so wrong, then they are far worse, yesterday alone they lost 2.75Bn$ On amc alone. They gamble your future away without batting an eye, as soon as the retailer starts making money everyone keeps saying to cashout, like its a loterry ticket.

This is obvious, and i wont start taking advice from people that don’t know whats happening now.
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The bottom line is throwing all your money at a single thing in the stock market is gambling.

Further to that when the thing you decide to throw all your money at is not a business with strong business fundamentals then your gambling factor increases because you're relying on the greater fool theory in order to make money. At that stage the process of growth is not organic but rather you are reliant on a social movement like the one we are currently seeing.

I mean why stop there? AMC isn't even the most shorted company on the stock market? Why not throw money at all these to get in ahead of the next pump that originates from WSB?:

High Short Interest Stocks

www.highshortinterest.com

Seems simple enough right?

Invest like this enough times and you will lose money far more often than you gain.
 
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Ass of Can Whooping

Ass of Can Whooping

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ricardo_sousa11 said:
The squeeze is due since mid 2019.

im not doing your homework, search and you will find it.

i did predict it because im heavily invested in it lol, even before the first squeeze, and even compared to GMe.

hows your portfolio looking?
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Good old deflection

You couldn't even explain your own DD on the company so i'm not suprised
 
ricardo_sousa11

ricardo_sousa11

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GHG said:
The bottom line is throwing all your money at a single thing in the stock market is gambling.

Further to that when the thing you decide to throw all your money at is not a business with strong business fundamentals then your gambling factor increases because you're relying on the greater fool theory in order to make money. At that stage the process of growth is not organic but rather you are reliant on a social movement like the one we are currently seeing.

I mean why stop there? AMC isn't even the most shorted company on the stock market? Why not throw money at all these to get in ahead of the next pump that originates from WSB?:

High Short Interest Stocks

www.highshortinterest.com

Seems simple enough right?

Invest like this enough times and you will lose money far more often than you gain.
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jesus you still dont get it
Ass of Can Whooping said:
Good old deflection

You couldn't even explain your own DD on the company so i'm not suprised
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Its just a waste of time talking to you, you do you and ill do me.

im not explaining shit to anyone, im not google, take your little fingers and search, you’ll find plenty of information.

you’re the one deflecting, as i said, my receipts are here, i’ve been posting since january, where were you?
 
Ass of Can Whooping

Ass of Can Whooping

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ricardo_sousa11 said:
jesus you still dont get it


Its just a waste of time talking to you, you do you and ill do me.

im not explaining shit to anyone, im not google, take your little fingers and search, you’ll find plenty of information.

you’re the one deflecting, as i said, my receipts are here, i’ve been posting since january, where were you?
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What am I deflecting exactly?

I don't invest in these meme stocks. Never have. Never will. They're not based on process. They're not based on fundementals. It's a riding a train and hoping you get lucky. Prove us wrong.

You were asked to go through your DD before. You defelcted. I've asked you to go through your process. You deflected. That tells us all we need to know
 
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ricardo_sousa11

ricardo_sousa11

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Ass of Can Whooping said:
What am I deflecting exactly?

I don't invest in meme stocks. Never have. Never will. They're not based on process. They're not based on fundementals. It's a riding a train and hopying you get lucky.

You were asked to go through your DD before. You defelcted. I've asked you to go through your process. You deflected. That tells us all we need to know
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i dont have to prove or explain anything.

but ill give you a hint, as of now, the entire float has been traded about 19x for the past 2.5 months. If you have acess to bloomberg terminal you’ll find pretty things there.
 
GHG

GHG

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ricardo_sousa11 said:
jesus you still dont get it
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Explain how any of this happens without a cult-like movement.

The whole thing is reliant on millions of people buying a stock with no future prospects and then waiting for more people to eventually do the same in the hope that it triggers a squeeze.

The gamma squeeze is already happening and you don't get the data you need to determine whether or not the shorts have started covering until it's too late.

While it's a nice thought, the whole idea that everyone involved in this can hold hands and sell out at the top together is a delusional one. So ultimately you have to decide whether you sell before everyone else or after.
 
ricardo_sousa11

ricardo_sousa11

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GHG said:
Explain how any of this happens without a cult-like movement.

The whole thing is reliant on millions of people buying a stock with no future prospects and then waiting for more people to eventually do the same in the hope that it triggers a squeeze.

The gamma squeeze is already happening and you don't get the data you need to determine whether or not the shorts have started covering until it's too late.

While it's a nice thought, the whole idea that everyone involved in this can hold hands and sell out at the top together is a delusional one. So ultimately you have to decide whether you sell before everyone else or after.
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The whole point is the naked shorting, most of the transactions being made today and for the past months are throught dark pools and otc. Its not reliant on retailers buying and holding, that part is pretty much irrevelevant now.

Have you seen how many changes the SEC has made in the past weeks? To avoid naked shorting and darkpool trading? Look up all the new changes, spoiler, it doesnt affect the retail investor.

we also have other data which is live that you can and should take into consideration, like utilization (which is still 99.xx), shares to loan, ctb or interest rate.

you seem to have this idea that reddit picked random stocks to pump, when its not the case, have you considered the term "memestocks" was made by the media, and maybe, just maybe, that there is a reason people picked these 2 stocks?

even considering the reported SI, i can guarantee they have not covered anything yet.

If you are all certain you are right, then why not short it? You'll make a killing
 
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TheUsual

TheUsual

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Looks like those 35 shares of BB I have sitting in my trade account will finally post some gains (bought at $18.66 a share)!
 
BigBooper

BigBooper

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Ass of Can Whooping said:
Already said its his money

Its important people dont follow his stupidity as an example though
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If someone says, 'trust me, I'm an expert, not a single short has covered' and people follow his advice blindly, it's also their money to lose. One counterargument is enough, but this has been going on for a couple of pages now.
 
ricardo_sousa11

ricardo_sousa11

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BigBooper said:
If someone says, 'trust me, I'm an expert, not a single short has covered' and people follow his advice blindly, it's also their money to lose. One counterargument is enough, but this has been going on for a couple of pages now.
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What are you on about?

i have not told anyone to buy anything, not i said i was an expert, i do know the shorts havent covered, show me proof that the shorts are covered.

also, following blind advice from strangers will only get you bankrupt.
 
Ass of Can Whooping

Ass of Can Whooping

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ricardo_sousa11 said:
What are you on about?

i have not told anyone to buy anything, not i said i was an expert, i do know the shorts havent covered, show me proof that the shorts are covered.

also, following blind advice from strangers will only get you bankrupt.
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You litterally just said on this page you were one of the few who advised people to buy AMC
 
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CloudNull

CloudNull

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So It Begins Helms Deep GIF by Giphy QA




Amc Gme GIF by aspar studio
 
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GHG

GHG

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ricardo_sousa11 said:
The whole point is the naked shorting, most of the transactions being made today and for the past months are throught dark pools and otc. Its not reliant on retailers buying and holding, that part is pretty much irrevelevant now.

we also have other data which is live that you can and should take into consideration, like utilization (which is still 99.xx), shares to loan, ctb or interest rate.

you seem to have this idea that reddit picked random stocks to pump, when its not the case, have you considered the term "memestocks" was made by the media, and maybe, just maybe, that there is a reason people picked these 2 stocks?

even considering the reported SI, i can guarantee they have not covered anything yet.

If you are all certain you are right, then why not short it? You'll make a killing
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Hedge funds have a high tolerance for loss and/or for being down on positions. You don't know how much they are willing to tolerate and how long for. The only thing you can control is your actions when you are in a profitable position.

And no, I wont short it because that doesn't fit the risk profile for the positions I'm willing to take.

ricardo_sousa11 said:
What are you on about?

i have not told anyone to buy anything, not i said i was an expert, i do know the shorts havent covered, show me proof that the shorts are covered.

also, following blind advice from strangers will only get you bankrupt.
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You're too emotionally invested. Your concern should not be whether the shorts have covered, it should be whether you are able to make money or not.

BigBooper said:
Why yall arguing? It's his money. Don't have to keep pointing out he could lose some.

At least the memes don't care about inflation lol.
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If someone flat out says they are gambling and they are willing to risk losing all of their money then whatever. If someone wants to say this is based on "fundamentals" and that AMC should have an "intrinsic price target of $25" then that bullshit needs to be called out.
 
Dural

Dural

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I had a stop loss set at $50 to sell half my shares, just that got me about 5 times what I've put into it so I'll ride it out with the rest.
 
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DrunkandDrunker

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CloudNull said:
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Nope Trey is wrong on this, CNBC is correct.
On June 3, 2021, AMC Entertainment Holdings, Inc. (the “Company”) entered into an equity distribution agreement (the “Equity Distribution Agreement”) with B. Riley Securities, Inc. and Citigroup Global Markets Inc. as sales agents (each, a “Sales Agent” and collectively, the “Sales Agents”), to sell up to 11,550,000 shares of Class A common stock, par value $0.01 per share, of the Company (the “Common Stock”), from time to time, through an “at-the-market” offering program (the “Offering”).

Subject to the terms and conditions of the Equity Distribution Agreement, the Sales Agents will use reasonable efforts consistent with their normal trading and sales practices, applicable law and regulations, and the rules of the New York Stock Exchange to sell the Common Stock from time to time based upon the Company’s instructions for the sales, including any price, time or size limits specified by the Company.

Each Sales Agent will receive a commission up to 2.5% of the gross sales price of the Common Stock sold through it as the Company’s Sales Agents under the Equity Distribution Agreement, and the Company has agreed to reimburse the Sales Agents for certain specified expenses. The Company has also agreed to provide the Sales Agents with customary indemnification and contribution rights. The Company is not obligated to sell any Common Stock under the Equity Distribution Agreement and may at any time suspend solicitation and offers under the Equity Distribution Agreement. The Equity Distribution Agreement may be terminated by the Company at any time by giving written notice to the Sales Agents for any reason or by each Sales Agent at any time, with respect to such Sales Agent only, by giving written notice to the Company for any reason.

The Company intends to use the net proceeds, if any, from the sale of the Common Stock pursuant to the Equity Distribution Agreement for general corporate purposes, which may include the repayment, refinancing, redemption or repurchase of existing indebtedness, acquisition of theatre assets, working capital or capital expenditures and other investments.

The Common Stock will be offered and sold pursuant to the Company’s shelf registration statement on Form S-3 (File No. 333-255546) filed on April 27, 2021 with the Securities and Exchange Commission (the “SEC”). The Company filed a prospectus supplement, dated June 3, 2021 (the “Prospectus Supplement”), to the prospectus, dated April 27, 2021, with the SEC in connection with the offer and sale of the Common Stock.

The foregoing description of the Equity Distribution Agreement is qualified in its entirety by reference to the Equity Distribution Agreement, a copy of which is filed as Exhibit 1.1 to this Current Report on Form 8-K and is incorporated herein by reference.
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investor.amctheatres.com

All SEC Filings

investor.amctheatres.com investor.amctheatres.com

TLDR You have to register with the SEC in order to do public offerings. You can use that register for multiple offerings. AMC is using a register made on April 2021 for the new offering made on June 2021.
Also, reducing debt with stock is a fucken smart move.
 
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crazepharmacist said:
Short ladder attack is a made up conspiracy that originated with the original GME craze. No one had ever heard of that term before.
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Whatever you want to call it, this phenomenon of rapid low-volume sell off that quickly drops the trading price early in the day only to see the stock recover and sometimes even exceed the previous day's closing price happened time and time again with GME. That doesn't mean the same thing will happen with AMC, but to call him delusional over speculating about it? Seems dumb.
 
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GHG

GHG

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Zefah said:
Whatever you want to call it, this phenomenon of rapid low-volume sell off that quickly drops the trading price early in the day only to see the stock recover and sometimes even exceed the previous day's closing price happened time and time again with GME. That doesn't mean the same thing will happen with AMC, but to call him delusional over speculating about it? Seems dumb.
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That's not a phenomenon exclusive to GME or AMC for that matter.

If You Say So Shrug GIF


Is this the first time people are closely watching how their stocks behave on an intraday basis?

Also in AMC's case it today it was defiantly not a low volume sell-off. Most of the volume for the day so far is concentrated in the first 30 minutes of trading (which again, is a normal pattern unless a company announces some news during trading hours).
 
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