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[DunpealD]

He's pretty bad right now compared to the first beta. He's been heavily nerfed since then. But that seems to be all I hear about every character. It looks like that's the direction Capcom is going in. If it's considered good or cheap then nerf it or remove it.

It's just not that fun to play. If they want to take away combos then make these buttons, throws, and short combos hurt. But even those are pretty weak now. So we're just poking each other with pillows now?

I know I know, it's not done yet. But man I'm really afraid this is how Capcom will start the game with.

Looks like they buffed his V-Skill now removing it from trash tier V-Skill.
Probably reduced startup or less likely reduced frame advantage for blocked mids, since he can now blow up mid into mid frametraps like Karins cr.mp into st.mp which didn't work in the second beta. Light into light frametrap still works against parry and lands a counterhit on its startup.

I also tested parrying all lights. Only Chun cr.lp, Rashid cr.lp, Ryu cr.lp and Cammy st.lp are safe from parry punish. Some are even punishable with st.mp.

In turn his b.HK got nerfed hard. It is now no longer possible to link into st.mp which also means you cannot keep pressuring using HK tatsu ender.
I also think that unlike USFIV Ryus fireballs have different startups depending on which punch you push. HP is the fastest from what I could see, but I have no idea if they have different recovery.

This is such a noob question, but what exactly does set-ups mean in this context?

It means you put the opponent intentionally into a controlled situation where you have the advantage. It is not random, but done on purpose and can be done again in the same specific situation.

 

[K.Sabot]

chun pressure in SFV

 

[FistOfSyn]

Well, i've played enough tonight

Man I freaking love SFV. It just feels so much better than sf4 to me. I can't wait for it.

also, rashid is love, rashid is life

 

[HardRojo]

Blame English and its non-phonemic nature.

I know Being a non-native speaker sucked when I didn't speak the language well.

 

[Mesoian]

I'm having trouble finding uses for Laura's jukes. The movement isn't that great forwards or backwards and it doesn't seem like it can be cancelled.

 

[MoxManiac]

Ok, thanks. Weird implementation.

 

[Karsticles]

I'm having trouble finding uses for Laura's jukes. The movement isn't that great forwards or backwards and it doesn't seem like it can be cancelled.

Hold the button to cancel into her V-Skill overhead.

 

[Sayad]

chun pressure in SFV

LK version is great for building meter while jumping over projectiles.

 

[K.Sabot]

LK version is great for building meter while jumping over projectiles.

and mk version is + on block which is nice

 

[RM8]

I know Being a non-native speaker sucked when I didn't speak the language well.

I know that feel considering I've never even been to an English speaking country Pronounciation / listening is the least fun aspect about English.

 

[DarkLegion]

Hey, on ps4 and keep getting the message "A new title update has been uploaded to the server. Please download and restart to apply the update." But I've downloaded and installed it and closed/restarted the game multiple times. Or is this somethting on server side?

 

[FistOfSyn]

Hey, on ps4 and keep getting the message "A new title update has been uploaded to the server. Please download and restart to apply the update." But I've downloaded and installed it and closed/restarted the game multiple times. Or is this somethting on server side?

Delete the game and redownload it

 

[DarkLegion]

Delete the game and redownload it

Damn, wanted to avoid that. Will do though

 

[Mesoian]

I dunno man, I'm having a hell of a time getting anything started witih Laura. I wish they'd just give me Mika back.

 

[bob_arctor]

I dunno man, I'm having a hell of a time getting anything started witih Laura. I wish they'd just give me Mika back.

Yup, still winless with her. Still think she can be solid though.

 

[Producer]

chun pressure in SFV

Nice, at this point i'm thinking HSC is gonna stay for the final build. You can't connect s.MP after it anymore?

 

[Karsticles]

Just like I thought, Rashid's light tornado charge is total bullshit.

 

[K.Sabot]

Nice, at this point i'm thinking HSC is gonna stay for the final build. You can't connect s.MP after it anymore?

Nope, they actually did nerf it.

Just like I thought, Rashid's light tornado charge is total bullshit.

-2 on block, but still better than Bison scissor kicks now...

 

[Shadow_Lord]

Server maintenance in 45 minutes.

 

[Zissou]

Just like I thought, Rashid's light tornado charge is total bullshit.

How so?

 

[Karsticles]

Nope, they actually did nerf it.



-2 on block, but still better than Bison scissor kicks now...

Plus Rashid has the EX DP if you try to get offense in response, so responding is still a 50/50 gamble on you. Bison doesn't get that, either.

How so?

It's Knee Press, but better.

 

[Producer]

Nope, they actually did nerf it.

Well, it looks like its still pretty good. Any other changes from beta 2? Wish i could play...

 

[K.Sabot]

Well, it looks like its still pretty good. Any other changes from beta 2? Wish i could play...

V-skill startup is dramatically improved while the whiff vtrigger gain is gone an the hitbox is nerfed. It works much better as a movement option.

Other than that, you can't link st.mp > f.mp outside vtrigger anymore. F.mp has longer startup than in beta 2.

Also I think her walkspeed is slightly buffed because I can do st.mp > walk > st.mp again. (not really sure on this)

 

[Producer]

V-skill startup is dramatically improved while the whiff vtrigger gain is gone an the hitbox is nerfed. It works much better as a movement option.

Other than that, you can't link st.mp > f.mp outside vtrigger anymore. F.mp has longer startup than in beta 2.

Also I think her walkspeed is slightly buffed because I can do st.mp > walk > st.mp again. (not really sure on this)

Some good stuff and some bad. Good to hear vskill getting better. In beta 2 you could still do mp , walk , mp though.

 

[raven777]

Does Karin's Tenko -> V-skill -> CA don't connect anymore?

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Delete the game and redownload it

Ah crap, I thought the update that took me 2 hours to download would be sufficient. Got that error, so I just deleted the game and a redownloading it, with a tentative time of 5 hours left. Guess I'm not gonna get to play it this time.

 

[Mesoian]

Yup, still winless with her. Still think she can be solid though.

IMO, everything she has either telegraphs way too much or doesn't have enough range, so quicker characters run circles around her at every pass and tankier characters don't have to guess about her options.

It's not a good scene.

 

[LakeEarth]

I can confirm that you can quick stand Laura's super for whatever reason. Probably an oversight.

 

[Soulstar]

Karin's normals just feel so good. I have fun just playing a straight up footsie game with her.

 

[HardRojo]

Maintenance in 30 mins message popped up. That's nice that we're getting those in-game.

 

[TonberrysKnife]

Gonna start playing. Feel free to watch a old man like myself play. YouTube.com/Needlecrash.

 

[Remapped88]

Yay, 10 win streak with Laura!

 

[FistOfSyn]

Ah crap, I thought the update that took me 2 hours to download would be sufficient. Got that error, so I just deleted the game and a redownloading it, with a tentative time of 5 hours left. Guess I'm not gonna get to play it this time.

Yep, it sucks :/ had to move my os4 from the basement to not get garbage DL speeds

 

[ShinMaruku]

25 ish games and 16 wins. Not bad at all.

 

[Essay]

Well, someone broke my win streak at 11, so I'll call it a night, but I love Laura so far. It's not just because I'm some lusophile, Brazilo-weeb-equivalent who taught himself Portuguese either. ^_^

Seriously, I love the projectile, the normals, the anti-air game, the jump-arc, the Vskill, comboing into side-switch when needed, etc.... I was kind of on the fence about SFV Vega (my SF main from ST to IV), Chun and Rashid, but now I definitely have a character who'll handcuff me to this game for awhile to come.

 

[Rean]

Is the beta gonna be up tommorrow or was it just for today?

 

[bob_arctor]

IMO, everything she has either telegraphs way too much or doesn't have enough range, so quicker characters run circles around her at every pass and tankier characters don't have to guess about her options.

It's not a good scene.

Well, I beat a Karin at least. That seems like a nightmare matchup for Laura. I definitely see where you're coming from though, especially the telegraphed part. I will take my losses tonight and see if they improve her moving forward towards release. I do miss Mika though!

 

[Rocwell]

:edit: nvm misread the post.

 

[Resolution]

doing a stream

http://www.twitch.tv/resolutionsf

 

[Sayad]

Karin's normals just feel so good. I have fun just playing a straight up footsie game with her.

Was standing HK always safe on block? Seems too good now.

 

[Mesoian]

That was NOT 10 minutes, but I guess that's it.

I dunno, I need more time with Laura, but she doesn't seem to be my type of character

 

[commanderpepper]

At the end of the stress test I started using Laura's v skill after normals. If I had more time I'd like to experiment with which normals to use after the dash to get a counter hit.

 

[MikeBreezy92]

Ah well that was fun while it lasted. I enjoyed taking L's with Laura but at least I felt like I was learning something every fight. First time taking a SF game seriously so I think I'm gonna need some help but for the most part.

 

[robotzombie]

Sorry Karst, just played you as Rashid because the game refuses to let me be Karin, so I just did nonsense

 

[Resolution]

Sorry Karst, just played you as Rashid because the game refuses to let me be Karin, so I just did nonsense

the same just happened to me wtf

 

[Mesoian]

the same just happened to me wtf

You had to set your settings in preferences. First game I did, I was in practice as Laura but it put me in a match as Karin.

 

[raven777]

it's over

 

[MoxManiac]

It went down right when i connected with laura's CA D:

 

[VariantX]

welp, its over for tonight. I was just starting to finally get a feel for Laura

 

[K.Sabot]

Awww disconnect in the middle of what was supposed to be my 30th winstreak.