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[Garrett Hawke]

Fuck cammy

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in sfiv

she was my main in the brief time I spent with SFIV tbh. I was initially disappointed when they took out her air grab until I realised they'd removed most characters'.

I mean, you could say the same for Dhalsim.

I do not respect Cammy players.

dhalsim sucks though and should be nerfed.

900 health ain't that little.

Zangief only has 1050!

That's barely one LP SPD more.

maybe I'm basing my thoughts on Survival mode as Cammy but Gief is absolutely terrifying for me as her. If he gets like... three command grabs you're gone

So uh... The game just started crashing randomly on my pc.

No idea where it comes from. I've been playing 70h without any problem and out of the blue, 3 hard crashes.

are you on the latest Nvidia drivers? They're trash.

 

[salty_Josh]

I suggest that anyone who actually thinks Ryu is bad do what I do and watch Daigo matches. Before every match I'll watch Daigo play and honestly I've learned a bunch of the match ups just from observation. Although I'm not sure I'll ever be able to match his level, I'm definately learning each time I see him play.

 

[Gr1mLock]

Man some of the proximity block boxes in this game are pretty stupid. It's the only thing that legit bothers me.

 

[Stairouais]

are you on the latest Nvidia drivers? They're trash.

Nope, I'm still on those that came out for SFV

 

[joanot]

with network fight request set to casual and ranked, connection 4-5 bars and accept on, i get a fight every minute or so in the evenings. i'm in the uk.

i can't create a battle lounge (if i do i get disconnected) but i can see everyone's name and details if i search. i then have to wait a few seconds to get to see 2 or 3 people's connection ratings and the rest never show, so i often have to search again. so it normally takes at least 2-3 mins to find a lounge there. 45 minutes is insane but i don't think this is a common issue. some people had success turning off their antivirus early on, or adding exceptions for sfv. otherwise you might want to look into this info from haunts' official blog post:

Ill give it a try, thanks !

 

[mbpm1]

I suggest that anyone who actually thinks Ryu is bad do what I do and watch Daigo matches. Before every match I'll watch Daigo play and honestly I've learned a bunch of the match ups just from observation. Although I'm not sure I'll ever be able to match his level, I'm definately learning each time I see him play.

I've basically copied Daigo's parry mindset after his videos. Trying to refine it so I don't spam it but still use it at the right time.

 

[Shadoken]

900 health ain't that little.

Zangief only has 1050!

That's barely one LP SPD more.

That isnt how it works. HP isnt just a FLAT number. You gotta take into account scaling as well.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

That isnt how it works. HP isnt just a FLAT number. You gotta take into account scaling as well.

Wait, what?

 

[joe2187]

I respect Cammy players because that shit is tough tbh

get hit a few times and it's all over

She's an offensive monster that can stun fast and hit hard, the definition of a glass cannon (SPIKE!)

She's great as she is in the game.

The only thing I want is the return of her Air grab.

 

[lucebuce12]

Wait, what?

The lower your health goes, the less damage you take from the same attack.

If an attack does a 100% at full health, it'll do 80% or less if you're at 1/4 health.

Also of course, the longer the combo, the less damage the following attack in the combo does.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

The lower your health goes, the less damage you take from the same attack.

If an attack does a 100% at full health, it'll do 80% or less if you're at 1/4 health.

Also of course, the longer the combo, the less damage the following attack in the combo does.

Huh. I knew about combo scaling (somewhat), but I had no idea attacks did different amounts of damage depending on the amount of health the opponent had left. I never noticed that before, either. Interesting.

 

[Shadoken]

Huh. I knew about combo scaling (somewhat), but I had no idea attacks did different amounts of damage depending on the amount of health the opponent had left. I never noticed that before, either. Interesting.

Yup. Ryu just has 100hp more than Cammy. Even after you do 100 dmg on Ryu. He STILL has more HP than Cammy.

Its because even though characters have different HP values. The size of the lifebar remains the same. So when you will hit the 80%,50% and 25% scaling sooner on the Higher HP character.

Now add that to Combo scaling it starts to make huge differences at low HP.

 

[HardRojo]

I feel a bit helpless on wakeup as Nash lol, need to start using my V-Reversal more. Will they throw? Will they meaty?

 

[M3z_]

she was my main in the brief time I spent with SFIV tbh. I was initially disappointed when they took out her air grab until I realised they'd removed most characters'.

dhalsim sucks though and should be nerfed.

maybe I'm basing my thoughts on Survival mode as Cammy but Gief is absolutely terrifying for me as her. If he gets like... three command grabs you're gone

are you on the latest Nvidia drivers? They're trash.

Sim is a legit intelligence character, zoning, reactions, constant need to be on the move adjusting spacing. Cammy is way less respectful with her nutty play and easy 300 damage combos.

 

[Demoli]

Anyone from europe up for a few lobbies?
CFN: Demoli

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Yup. Ryu just has 100hp more than Cammy. Even after you do 100 dmg on Ryu. He STILL has more HP than Cammy.

Its because even though characters have different HP values. The size of the lifebar remains the same. So when you will hit the 80%,50% and 25% scaling sooner on the Higher HP character.

Now add that to Combo scaling it starts to make huge differences at low HP.

Good to know. Maybe why I sometimes feel like Birdie's HP supply is limitless when I'm having trouble against him.

Went against my nemesis Zangief, GiefKid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lYjHmTu550

I've been seeing this player occasionally on Ranked pretty much since I started playing. It's cool to see that we're growing at pretty much the same pace.

 

[Xeteh]

She's an offensive monster that can stun fast and hit hard, the definition of a glass cannon (SPIKE!)

She's great as she is in the game.

The only thing I want is the return of her Air grab.

Can of Sprite! She's just a fan of the lemon lime.

Yeah, I miss her air grab so much. My cousin is someone I play with a ton and he likes jumping as if the floor is a trampoline. Throwing his ass down with Cammy was a particular joy of mine.

Good to know. Maybe why I sometimes feel like Birdie's HP supply is limitless when I'm having trouble against him.

Went against my nemesis Zangief, GiefKid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lYjHmTu550

I've been seeing this player occasionally on Ranked pretty much since I started playing. It's cool to see that we're growing at pretty much the same pace.

Watched some of your matches last night. I'm jealous.

Edit: Awesome match, I keep messing around with Mika. She's so much fun.

 

[HappyPuppy]

AH HAHAHAHAHA

Had my second Ragequit in a casual match, second time I beat that scrubby Ken and he DCs as he is being thrown.

Name: Scrubsan

Shame!

 

[Xeteh]

AH HAHAHAHAHA

Had my second Ragequit in a casual match, second time I beat that scrubby Ken and he DCs as he is being thrown.

Name: Scrubsan

Shame!

Its right in the name!

 

[Rektash]

Jesus, it feels like everyone online playes Bison, Chun Li and Nash in the 3k + LP range. The horror D:.

 

[Sgtpepper89]

How do you bow to someone? Saw some Ryus do it

 

[Xeteh]

How do you bow to someone? Saw some Ryus do it

Is it just his taunt? If so then its all 6 buttons or L1+L2 with default controller controls

 

[Shadow_Lord]

Wow Gief Vs Nash is a horrible matchup for Gief. I've dominated every one I met except for like two. On the flipside if Gief touches Nash, his health melts.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Edit: Awesome match, I keep messing around with Mika. She's so much fun.

I think I've only ever really touched ~3 other characters so far. Something about Mika's aesthetic just clicks with me the most.

 

[ElFly]

Wow Gief Vs Nash is a horrible matchup for Gief. I've dominated every one I met except for like two. On the flipside if Gief touches Nash, his health melts.

Yep.

Zangief really needs to risk some V-skills to get in, and it is super risky.

 

[Sgtpepper89]

Is it just his taunt? If so then its all 6 buttons or L1+L2 with default controller controls

Oh, well bowing isnt really mean as gesture so didnt feel so taunting

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Yep.

Zangief really needs to risk some V-skills to get in, and it is super risky.

I think I still feel the most threatened when faced with a Zangief compared to other characters. I can have more trouble with other characters like Dhalsim or Chun-Li, but for Mika to do damage she has to get in real close, and that's where Zangief can really mess me up.

 

[Xeteh]

I think I've only ever really touched ~3 other characters so far. Something about Mika's aesthetic just clicks with me the most.

I just like how they nailed the whole wrestler thing with her. Her moves all feel very "realistic" and they work. Her V-Trigger being a tag team partner and the EX moves associated with that are all really cool. Can't wait to blow 40k on her story mode costume too, its awesome.

 

[HappyPuppy]

What software is recommended to record a match in PC? Shadowplay?

 

[sixteen-bit]

What software is recommended to record a match in PC? Shadowplay?

Yeah, Shadowplay is terrific if you have an Nvidia card.

 

[joe2187]

Kazunoko's cammy beasting Final Round pools.

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

can someone post up a picture of that guys ps2 pad from WNF?

 

[Quesa]

Where *is* Floe, tho

 

[ElFly]

That isnt how it works. HP isnt just a FLAT number. You gotta take into account scaling as well.

Bro, you are super exaggerating the effects of scaling.

I went to the lab and tested it.

4 HP SPDs kill Cammy. 3 HP SPDs + 1 MP SPD leave her alive!

4 HP SPDs + 1 LP SPD kill Zangief. 3HP SPDs + 1 MP SPD + 1 LP SPD leave him alive!

Cammy is literally just one LP SPD away from Zangief's health. Which is roughly the 150 points in difference once you consider scaling.

 

[Rektash]

Can someone explain me grappler matchups in fighting games?

Like I just don't get it. I have played thousands of hours of SF IV, quite a bit of SF II HD Remake and now SF V and I just don't get it.

It's like, I know how you are supposed to play these matchups and I try. I don't do anything wild, I try to keep them out via a patient footsie game. It works for a while but every single time there is a point where it just goes south. They get in, catch me with 1 or 2 gimmicks and I am done. I crumble every time.

It feels so volatile. I work my ass of trying to keep Zangief out and all he needs is to get in one time or get plain lucky and it's over. Pls, how do I get over this :-/?

 

[The God]

I've been playing this game on the DS4 and I've had no issues. This game is perhaps the most pad-friendly Street Fighter yet.

Definitely playable on the DS4. Some top players are still actually on the joypad. No worries here.

How is the learning curve? I know Street Fighter is a complex game, but I'm wondering how easy it is to pick up for a beginner.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

How is the learning curve? I know Street Fighter is a complex game, but I'm wondering how easy it is to pick up for a beginner.

The learning curve is low, but getting to a good level is going to take you many, many hours.

 

[galvatron]

Where *is* Floe, tho

Someone asked him about tournaments that he's attending on his twitch stream and he made a bunch of jokes about attending events in various rooms of his house...so, I'm guessing streaming is his focus in term of playing in public.

 

[Xeteh]

Kazunoko's cammy beasting Final Round pools.

Do you have any idea what his CFN is? Been wanting to creep on his replays but I have no idea where to find'm.

 

[The God]

The learning curve is low, but getting to a good level is going to take you many, many hours.

Sounds good. Are characters like Alex going to be free updates or is that season pass stuff?

 

[Xeteh]

Sounds good. Are characters like Alex going to be free updates or is that season pass stuff?

You have to buy him with either Fight Money or real money.

 

[Shadoken]

Bro, you are super exaggerating the effects of scaling.

I went to the lab and tested it.

4 HP SPDs kill Cammy. 3 HP SPDs + 1 MP SPD leave her alive!

4 HP SPDs + 1 LP SPD kill Zangief. 3HP SPDs + 1 MP SPD + 1 LP SPD leave him alive!

Cammy is literally just one LP SPD away from Zangief's health. Which is roughly the 150 points in difference once you consider scaling.

The test you are doing does diminish the effect of scaling because you are landing raw SPDs. Replace that 150 dmg SPD with a 150dmg bnb like a couple of Lights into special.
It is more of an exponential effect , you REALLY start noticing it when you do long combos especially when they are low on health.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Can someone explain me grappler matchups in fighting games?

Like I just don't get it. I have played thousands of hours of SF IV, quite a bit of SF II HD Remake and now SF V and I just don't get it.

It's like, I know how you are supposed to play these matchups and I try. I don't do anything wild, I try to keep them out via a patient footsie game. It works for a while but every single time there is a point where it just goes south. They get in, catch me with 1 or 2 gimmicks and I am done. I crumble every time.

It feels so volatile. I work my ass of trying to keep Zangief out and all he needs is to get in one time or get plain lucky and it's over. Pls, how do I get over this :-/?

I don't think much more can be said other than keep your distance. Really learn the appropriate means to keep grapplers at bay; the reach of each of your normals and how far reaching theirs are, making sure they can never get in.

By their very nature they tend to be comeback characters, so it's as much on you to not mess up as it is on them to find that golden opportunity. You'll need to predict what they think you'll do and answer accordingly by doing the opposite.

 

[Xeteh]

Can someone explain me grappler matchups in fighting games?

Like I just don't get it. I have played thousands of hours of SF IV, quite a bit of SF II HD Remake and now SF V and I just don't get it.

It's like, I know how you are supposed to play these matchups and I try. I don't do anything wild, I try to keep them out via a patient footsie game. It works for a while but every single time there is a point where it just goes south. They get in, catch me with 1 or 2 gimmicks and I am done. I crumble every time.

It feels so volatile. I work my ass of trying to keep Zangief out and all he needs is to get in one time or get plain lucky and it's over. Pls, how do I get over this :-/?

You already seemingly understand it. It is just the nature of that character type. Their hardest job is getting in range and once they do they can make your life hell. There isn't much you can do other than do your best to be as far away as possible.

 

[The God]

You have to buy him with either Fight Money or real money.

So the 6 additional characters are unlockable in-game? Cool

 

[Xeteh]

So the 6 additional characters are unlockable in-game? Cool

Yep! The only things you can't buy with Fight Money are the "premium" costumes. Story mode costumes will be purchasable but are kind of pricey compared to characters.

100k for a character
40k for the story costumes

 

[CrackPebbles]

Do you have any idea what his CFN is? Been wanting to creep on his replays but I have no idea where to find'm.

I'm pretty sure it's Messilshibashi. He might play on a few others.

 

[Shadoken]

Can someone explain me grappler matchups in fighting games?

Like I just don't get it. I have played thousands of hours of SF IV, quite a bit of SF II HD Remake and now SF V and I just don't get it.

It's like, I know how you are supposed to play these matchups and I try. I don't do anything wild, I try to keep them out via a patient footsie game. It works for a while but every single time there is a point where it just goes south. They get in, catch me with 1 or 2 gimmicks and I am done. I crumble every time.

It feels so volatile. I work my ass of trying to keep Zangief out and all he needs is to get in one time or get plain lucky and it's over. Pls, how do I get over this :-/?

Mix it up , Just because he is Gief doesnt mean you shouldnt Rush him down. Even when I played Guy in SF4. I would often do bursts of Rushdown on Gief. I mean it might seem like suicide but the change of pace will throw him off. Its not like his grabs are invincible , you just need to be wary of the frame traps you use.

You can only keep out a player for so long (Unless your character is some kind of super Zoner ) , if he is as good as you he Will eventually guess right and get in.

 

[ElFly]

The test you are doing does diminish the effect of scaling because you are landing raw SPDs. Replace that 150 dmg SPD with a 150dmg bnb like Cr.LPxCr.LPxHadoken.
It is more of an exponential effect , you REALLY start noticing it when you do long combos especially when they are low on health.

Since when Cr.LPxCr.LPxHadoken. does 150 dmg!??!

I went with Ryu's Jumping Fierce, Crouching Fierce, Fierce Hadoken (jFP, cFPxHP hadouken). It does 219.

Zangief eats five and a jab to die
Cammy eats four and a MP and LP to die

It is not _that_ dramatic.

Of course if you go with flashy combos of 500 hits all with light attacks, the scaling is dramatic, but with regular, normal combos, she ain't at that much of a disadvantage.

 

[Sgtpepper89]

Gonna make the 30titles trophy so going to get 1 win in ranked with some of them while only played em in easy survival.. Im at 1k lp and still manage to win on 2ond game with Ken against a 1200 Cammy. I have no idea what I am doin but that character really is lame as hell lol. Ruy was easy too.. Gonna be interesting to see what characters will give me the biggest struggle. Im guessing Dhalsim..