sixteen-bit
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I believe Casual is included in this total as well. Only Battle Lounge doesn't count.
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Street Fighter V |OT3| Frauds Among Us
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I believe Casual is included in this total as well. Only Battle Lounge doesn't count.
Reizo Ryuu
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I say stick with what you know, switching to a fight stick isn't suddenly going to make you better even if you put a lot of time in it and made the adjustment.
Crab Milk Mickey
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Nothing personal against you for the record, but it just bugs me when people are so quick to proclaim "x / y character is so weak!" in a very balanced fighting game rather than looking at what they have at their disposal. It's such a defeatist mentality that's been prevalent in this thread.
No, it makes sense for him to be that high.
Fastest walk speed in the game, good range on his normals, does respectable damage, his V-Trigger controls the entire screen space while easily leading to losing roughly 50% of your health bar with a full CA bar, said V-Trigger is also entirely safe unless he ends up in the corner, he has a good mix-up game up-close with his stance swapping (and subsequently the command grab when you're still in block stun), a strong V-Reversal for punishing et cetera. His only truly glaring weaknesses are a lack of convenient anti-airs and his V-Skill being borderline worthless. I'd mention him easily being pressured in the corner too, but that's a universal rule-of-thumb regardless of which fighting game you're playing, on top of at least half the cast in Street Fighter V suffering from that 'issue' too.
They just never fixed current matchmaking to be as fast as the matchmaking algorithm from the closed betas, even when there were over 100 000+ players on launch.
scooblehdoo
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Alex being a charge character, would mean the second dlc character wont be be a charge character no? I mean some people don't like charge characters. Maybe this has already been said but yeah. Hope it's true tho. Would be kind of boring if we already knew in which order the dlc characters will release
(Just my simple thinking about the dlc release schedule, not a fact)
(Just my simple thinking about the dlc release schedule, not a fact)
Here's something that's puzzling me. Bison's ex head stomp. In this game it seems difficult to properly punish a whiffed ex head stomp. I can consistently backdash to make them whiff as per SFIV, but I never get a decent punish from it.
I've looked in the v frames and google docs app, but both have nothing listed under startup or recovery for this move? What gives? How fast does it recover? I feel like one of these whiffing should be ripe for a crush counter combo.
I've looked in the v frames and google docs app, but both have nothing listed under startup or recovery for this move? What gives? How fast does it recover? I feel like one of these whiffing should be ripe for a crush counter combo.
Lunch_Box_
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That really is a great video, man. There are a lot flying around at the moment for Alex but this is the one i'm going to reference!
Alex is fun but since I STILL can't play charge characters I keep forgetting to hold the charge for elbow. Hopefully he will help me finally get to grips with charge moves.
Crush counters are typically only for invincible moves, which is why Laura's random hp bolt or random Nash Genocide cutter won't get crush counter punished on whiff
N
Noray
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I can't do Ryu's last trial. The V-Trigger never combos into the back HK for me. What am I doing wrong?
You have to walk forward a tiny bit after the crush counter HK before hitting the HP.
Good video. Weird that it says "command grab ends pressure" and proceeds to show several meaty setups after command grab.
Getting in is definitely a problem. The video I quoted showed that s.lk xx EX chop was a good counter poke, which could be very useful for footsies.
Reizo Ryuu
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walk forward; watch the demo.
N
Noray
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thanks. Don't know why it wouldn't list that in the commands. Oh Capcom.
I just don't think it's "real" pressure. Alex is too far and the opponent can just block.
I forgot to test if meaty stomp is a viable oki option, maybe it can make it into an updated version of the video.
Actually, iirc, the regular TE2 doesn't have the L3 or R3 buttons either which SF5's training mode uses for resetting position. As for Blazblue and Guilty Gear, the touchpad is used to reset in training mode I think.
Crab Milk Mickey
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I can't see them change either Balrog or Guile into a motion character. They already have a motion-based boxer with Dudley, and Guile has been the de facto charge character for ages with his overall playstyle also being suited for it. Urien will probably be changed instead, if I were to guess.
Casual or beginning players given how little/bad the single player content is and how inane the requirements are, yeah. Even if not necessarily casual, if I'm deciding to spend my limited time with this or other games, it's an aspect I enjoy, and Capcom's showing so little respect to players' time on top of all the games many issues, yeah, I'm going to consider shelving this for a while for a game that doesn't piss me off. But note I said, if their solution ends up being paying real money for them. That would be seen as a very customer unfriendly move and they don't have a lot of good will to spare. IF that's the breaking point for someone not heavily invested already, I get would it.
Emperor Bohe
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I found some interesting SFV concept art pieces while browsing through Facebook. You can find the rest here.
yoooo SF1 we in there. i'd be mad hype if they brought back the unused OG cast reimagined. never realized until now that Ryu, Ken & Birdie were the only original characters that made it into SFV.
It's true, if they high block the s.HK or the light elbow, Alex is negative and lost his turn.
Medium stomp also connects after a forward/command throw, but again, blocking high works, and the stomps are even more punishable than the first two options.
Medium stungun headbutt will reach and beat block, but it's a pretty big risk.
EDIT - actually, if they high block, they'll just walk backwards and the medium stungun will whiff. I've caught people doing this with heavy stungun before though.
You could always get something like a Hori Fighting Commander 4 and join us committed pad players!
I love that Eagle's sticks are now tasers.
Pejo
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Question for you guys: I'm deciding to take a break from Necalli for a bit just to try someone with a different playstyle, and I'm trying to decide between Nash and Laura. Which is the easier character to get into? I finished out both of their trials, and Nash seems to have higher execution requirements, but a lot more top end. I mean don't get me wrong, I suck all the way around, but I just need something to break up those 5-6 loss streaks with Necalli every now and then.
Also, can anyone recommend a PC compatible 6 button fight pad (preferably with 2 shoulders)? I'm really getting frustrated with my DS4 and the shoulder buttons mapped to light, makes teching and performing throws almost impossible. It's really starting to become a pain point.
Also, can anyone recommend a PC compatible 6 button fight pad (preferably with 2 shoulders)? I'm really getting frustrated with my DS4 and the shoulder buttons mapped to light, makes teching and performing throws almost impossible. It's really starting to become a pain point.
Check out Laura's hair during her win animation
I would say Laura is a bit more complicated to play than Nash: her execution may seem simple, but she relies a lot on tight frame traps and vdash cancelling, as well as hard reads and conditioning.
It really all depends on what playstyle you prefer: Nash is more straight-forward and solid all around, allowing you to play reactively to your opponent, while Laura asks of you that you play an offensive and mix-up game, trying to get into your opponent's head.
Yeah, it looks like he has a banana embedded into his collar bone.
Nothing will outdo Birdie's chain/necklace clipping on the VS screen. The idle animation causes the two to pass each other over and over again. It's been a problem since beta #1.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
It's Ranked only, even though the text doesn't specify.
Pejo
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Thanks! I'll stick to Nash for a while then. I need to go look up some BnBs.
lucebuce12
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This year? A bit unlikely.
But it's certainly a possibility in the game's life. Capcom can still get by with the money being made from the game's retail/digital sales but eventually those will start to dry up and their source of income from this game will be DLC.
So they need to make sure there's a shit tonne of it.
Kind of stupid no one bothered to fix it.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
Kobu only gets good halfway through though...
You can get kobu if I can get cvs2 stimulation.
Augemitbutter
Member
goddamn, why do i run into mashed srk for 2 matches. i will never learn.
btw, whats's up with this weird lobby matchmaking? every time i create a 3player lobby, 1-2 players rush in. now if only 1 player comes in, there is a 90% chance that 3rd slot will never be filled as long as the lobby persists. so you either have a full lobby right away or you'll wait an eternity.
btw, whats's up with this weird lobby matchmaking? every time i create a 3player lobby, 1-2 players rush in. now if only 1 player comes in, there is a 90% chance that 3rd slot will never be filled as long as the lobby persists. so you either have a full lobby right away or you'll wait an eternity.
CrackpotDesert
Banned
I can't wait for Balrog
There's no way he'll be as good as he was in SFIV, though.
There's no way he'll be as good as he was in SFIV, though.
I can't wait for Juri Q_Q. Struggling to figure out who I want to main in the meantime.
I can, Juri or bust!
Oh wow, thanks a lot! This'll be really useful. I didn't realize his command grabs were 6f.
CrackpotDesert
Banned
If it's plus it's safe.
If it's minus it can still be safe if the opponent doesn't have a move that comes out fast/far enough to punish you
CrackpotDesert
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Somewhat. If an attack is -3 on block, few things can punish it in SFV. I think Gief's CA is 1 frame.
The Mango Sentinel
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You can have a move that's negative but end up being relatively safe depending on how you're positioned after the move.
Yep. Like alex's lp elbow can be pretty safe if you hit at the tip bc few 3 frame moves go that far
The more plus it is, the more frames there are where you can move before they can.
The more negative, the more frames they have to move before you can.
The term "unsafe" is a little more complex than that. If something is -3, it is unsafe against a character with a 3 frame jab but safe against someone who doesn't. Then again, it can be safe regardless if the move "pushes" your opponent so far away that their 3-frame move can't reach (which is why people say things like "safe if spaced properly").
sixteen-bit
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I popped the trophy in a casual match tho. I haven't played nearly 300 rank matches.
CrackpotDesert
Banned
The character in SFIV is disgusting. Great Anti Air, getting jabbed means you're getting hit with Ultra 1. Jumping into headbutt means you're eating Ultra 1. Great normals, great pressure with LP dash punches.
It felt so easy to win matches with Balrog.
The Mango Sentinel
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Dhalsim players press more fucking buttons than anyone else. Holy shit.
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