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Street Fighter V |OT3| Frauds Among Us

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So I landed on two characters that I feel like I'm going to start maining seriously - Alex and Rashid. I have no idea how to work a grapple character, so I'm already struggling, and my execution is shit so I'm not landing anything worthwhile for Alex.

Rashid is a different story. I'm getting decent with him fast. Feints, constant pressure, and hitting that vtrigger for a quick setup and getting some simple but effective combos is making me fall in love with him.

Sorry Nec. I just can't seem to make it work with you. Nash isn't all that much fun to me, and Birdie is taking way too much work to have fun.
 

Zissou

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I've been working on a series of videos going over important basic information for fighting against each character. I finally finished the Rye vid (a relatively easy to understand character, so in retrospect, maybe not the best way to kick off the series, haha), but comments/feedback would be much appreciated.
 
lol That must have been sixfourtyfive. He tends to do that with his Mika.

Sorry I couldn't join this session but hopefully I'll get in the next one.

He was just straight fucking with me after a while, boy I was out of my league. Tho, I have a tough time with mika in general. I don't know what necalli's gameplan is supposed to be there.
 
Man all these mods really want to make me just trade in the ps4 version and get it on PC. But too bad PC doesn't support USFIV TE2. and my 360 TE1 stopped working last year.
 

Sixfortyfive

He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
He was just straight fucking with me after a while, boy I was out of my league. Tho, I have a tough time with mika in general. I don't know what necalli's gameplan is supposed to be there.

It's not so much "fucking with you" as it is seeing what I can get away with, and only stopping once I can't get away with it anymore.

In general, I think you just play way too risky. After the 2nd random Disc's Guidance in the first round, I thought, "oh, I just have to sit back and wait for this guy to kill himself." And that's how the first 3 or 4 games basically went. You got more hits in neutral once you stopped throwing out random specials, but there wasn't much in the way of actually keeping me from doing what I wanted to do. (e.g. You used his DP as a reversal, but you wouldn't anti-air me.)

Both characters basically want to get in and pressure with frame traps and throws. Mika's pressure is better but her defense is worse; she has no reversal other than super, so once she's blocking she really can't do much. Necalli can at least DP on occasion to keep her guessing.

I can play you if you are still up.

Send an invite if you're making a lobby.

CFN: Sixfortyfive
 

Edgeward

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GGs

It's not so much "fucking with you" as it is seeing what I can get away with, and only stopping once I can't get away with it anymore.

In general, I think you just play way too risky. After the 2nd random Disc's Guidance in the first round, I thought, "oh, I just have to sit back and wait for this guy to kill himself." And that's how the first 3 or 4 games basically went. You got more hits in neutral once you stopped throwing out random specials, but there wasn't much in the way of actually keeping me from doing what I wanted to do. (e.g. You used his DP as a reversal, but you wouldn't anti-air me.)

Both characters basically want to get in and pressure with frame traps and throws. Mika's pressure is better but her defense is worse; she has no reversal other than super, so once she's blocking she really can't do much. Necalli can at least DP on occasion to keep her guessing.



Send an invite if you're making a lobby.

CFN: Sixfortyfive

I can play you a quick set if you are up
 

FACE

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Just wondering, for those of you who played SF4 heavily throughout the years, are you still plink'ing? Combo said plink'ing doesn't help so I told myself I would try to weed it out. But 2 months later I'm still doing it. And it actually has had a negative affect on me sometimes. For example a hit confirm combo I'll go for a lot is st. MP, cr. MP, HK tatsu with Ryu. But I screw up the plink and get cr. LP instead and it doesn't combo into HK tatsu.

Funny thing is I find myself least likely to go for a plink when I'm going for a punish combo after a dizzy. That because I have more time to think about it and tell myself just to do it that way. Otherwise I stay on auto pilot with my button presses and keep doing it.

I only "plink" when I do kara ex legs.

Double tapping 4 lyfe
 
I've been working on a series of videos going over important basic information for fighting against each character. I finally finished the Rye vid (a relatively easy to understand character, so in retrospect, maybe not the best way to kick off the series, haha), but comments/feedback would be much appreciated.
That was good stuff. I like that you showed how different characters get around fireballs. I also had no idea that ex tatsu was so negative. Does he have an air ex tatsu? I don't remember seeing that in the video. Are you always going to use Chun in your videos?
 
Ah man, we haven't played in a while. Definitely hit me up some other time if you ever want to get some games in.


GGs Edgeward

Definitely,nee to scrape some more necalli tips out of you lol. Unfortuneatly, started drinking and well, next time

It's not so much "fucking with you" as it is seeing what I can get away with, and only stopping once I can't get away with it anymore.

In general, I think you just play way too risky. After the 2nd random Disc's Guidance in the first round, I thought, "oh, I just have to sit back and wait for this guy to kill himself." And that's how the first 3 or 4 games basically went. You got more hits in neutral once you stopped throwing out random specials, but there wasn't much in the way of actually keeping me from doing what I wanted to do. (e.g. You used his DP as a reversal, but you wouldn't anti-air me.)

Both characters basically want to get in and pressure with frame traps and throws. Mika's pressure is better but her defense is worse; she has no reversal other than super, so once she's blocking she really can't do much. Necalli can at least DP on occasion to keep her guessing.

3 mic things in a row tho? You were kinda fuckin with me.
I mean its cool. I know i need way more practice.
 

Gren

Member
Ah tonight was much better as far as finding matches. Guess more people around me are available on Tuesday nights rather than Mondays.

As a pad player, I love the change to Chun's legs input. Best thing they could've done to her.

EDIT: Inherent drawback of being a wireless pad player: batteries died on me mid-match lol. Now I have a pair of AAs on the table as standby. Could still cost me the round/match, but eh, don't want wires running across my floor.
 
Can someone list all of the charge characters for me? I wanna get their trials over with first.

I've done Chun-Li and Bison and I'm currently doing FANG. Is there any other charge characters or is that all of them?
 

Sixfortyfive

He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
I decided to estimate how much fight money you can get out of the game, not counting online play.

Demo videos:
Demonstrations (Beginner): 1000 FM
Demonstrations (Intermediate): 1000 FM
Demonstrations (Expert): 1000 FM

Per character:
Character Guides: 500 FM + 1000 EXP
Trials: 3000 FM + 5000 EXP
Story: 2000 FM + 5000 EXP
Survival (Easy): 2000 FM + 5000 EXP
Survival (Normal): 5000 FM + 10000 EXP
Survival (Hard): 10000 FM + 20000 EXP
Survival (Extreme): 20000 FM + 40000 EXP

Online play:
Ranked Match: 50 FM for win + EXP based on opponent's league
Casual Match: 50 FM for win + EXP based on opponent's league

Each level-up awards 1000 FM.
Completing all of a character's single-player content besides Hard + Extreme Survival raises his level to 19.
Completing all of a character's single-player content besides Extreme Survival raises his level to 24.
Not sure how much Extreme Survival would raise it to, but I'd guess it would be at least level 30.

With 17 characters, that puts the total amount of fight money to collect from single-player at about 1,235,500 FM (plus more if Extreme Survival gives enough EXP to boost a character over level 30).
 

KingBroly

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I decided to estimate how much fight money you can get out of the game, not counting online play.

Demo videos:
Demonstrations (Beginner): 1000 FM
Demonstrations (Intermediate): 1000 FM
Demonstrations (Expert): 1000 FM

Per character:
Character Guides: 500 FM + 1000 EXP
Trials: 3000 FM + 5000 EXP
Story: 2000 FM + 5000 EXP
Survival (Easy): 2000 FM + 5000 EXP
Survival (Normal): 5000 FM + 10000 EXP
Survival (Hard): 10000 FM + 20000 EXP
Survival (Extreme): 20000 FM + 40000 EXP

Online play:
Ranked Match: 50 FM for win + EXP based on opponent's league
Casual Match: 50 FM for win + EXP based on opponent's league

Each level-up awards 1000 FM.
Completing all of a character's single-player content besides Hard + Extreme Survival raises his level to 19.
Completing all of a character's single-player content besides Extreme Survival raises his level to 24.
Not sure how much Extreme Survival would raise it to, but I'd guess it would be at least level 30.

With 17 characters, that puts the total amount of fight money to collect from single-player at about 1,235,500 FM (plus more if Extreme Survival gives enough EXP to boost a character over level 30).

Lv.29 is the highest you can get with any character through Offline play right now.
 

MadGear

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Alex replacement model just got released -- link

Something feels off about him but this is easily much better than the official model. I'm super hyped to try this out later today. Now if only my Alex would start to improve. I enjoy him a lot but I still fail at dealing with rush down players.

Now I just hope that this Modder will give Kens face an overhaul as well.
 

Hutchie

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I thought they changed casuals so theres no more exp, or did i read that wrong?

Also who the hell is able to conplete extreme survival with everyone. Since the patch im sure survival has got harder
 

mbpm1

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I thought they changed casuals so theres no more exp, or did i read that wrong?

Also who the hell is able to conplete extreme survival with everyone. Since the patch im sure survival has got harder

there's a mod that makes all of them one round each
 
Wow. I thought Capcom had done an alright job with Alex's new design, but that mod powerbombs all over it.

If SF5 ever becomes free to play or regularly cheap in steam sales, I'll be on the PC version so fast.
Design-wise it's great, but the texturing and the way it blends with the in-game lighting (much less the VS screen's) could use another pass compared to Capcom's own model. His facial animations also aren't quite there yet, but I'm sure changing those is no easy task in the first place.

I've been working on a series of videos going over important basic information for fighting against each character. I finally finished the Rye vid (a relatively easy to understand character, so in retrospect, maybe not the best way to kick off the series, haha), but comments/feedback would be much appreciated.
Very informative video. Only 'complaint' I have (read: me being pety instead) is that the English voices are used, since everything else is well done.
 

Zissou

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That was good stuff. I like that you showed how different characters get around fireballs. I also had no idea that ex tatsu was so negative. Does he have an air ex tatsu? I don't remember seeing that in the video. Are you always going to use Chun in your videos?

Thanks! No ex air tatsu I belive- I went pretty systematically through his move list (though it's certainly possible that I missed something!) I used Chun because she's who I play and I was already taxed with trying to hammer out exactly how I was going to format the video, etc. The stuff I was trying to show was pretty character universal (in terms of what was punishable, etc.) and Chun was just the easiest for me to do it with. You think it'd be better to have a mix of characters?

Very informative video. Only 'complaint' I have (read: me being pety instead) is that the English voices are used, since everything else is well done.

Thanks- I don't really feel too strongly one way or the other about the voices, so if people preferred, I could switch, haha. I'd also love if character specialists were willing to lend a hand in their character's match-up video- I'm only one person and I'm bound to miss things from time to time. I really like your posts on how to fight sim, btw- very well written and informative.
 
I decided to estimate how much fight money you can get out of the game, not counting online play.

Demo videos:
Demonstrations (Beginner): 1000 FM
Demonstrations (Intermediate): 1000 FM
Demonstrations (Expert): 1000 FM

Per character:
Character Guides: 500 FM + 1000 EXP
Trials: 3000 FM + 5000 EXP
Story: 2000 FM + 5000 EXP
Survival (Easy): 2000 FM + 5000 EXP
Survival (Normal): 5000 FM + 10000 EXP
Survival (Hard): 10000 FM + 20000 EXP
Survival (Extreme): 20000 FM + 40000 EXP

Online play:
Ranked Match: 50 FM for win + EXP based on opponent's league
Casual Match: 50 FM for win + EXP based on opponent's league

Each level-up awards 1000 FM.
Completing all of a character's single-player content besides Hard + Extreme Survival raises his level to 19.
Completing all of a character's single-player content besides Extreme Survival raises his level to 24.
Not sure how much Extreme Survival would raise it to, but I'd guess it would be at least level 30.

With 17 characters, that puts the total amount of fight money to collect from single-player at about 1,235,500 FM (plus more if Extreme Survival gives enough EXP to boost a character over level 30).

Theoretically enough to earn 2 seasons worth of 6 characters each, eh?
 
Hoping this time next year they release a huge update that just makes it seem like a whole new game, currently everything outside of offline gameplay is dogshit.

Matchmaking blows, No region filter so end up with players from other side of the world as opponents, and since all it uses is ping bar strength out of match, as soon as match starts it's just unplayable. You can only accept/reject a fight request before you see who opponent is, cannot sit in a lobby with them for 10 seconds to see if their ping goes to shit and back out or kick them out, so if just got one dogshit connection opponent you could play him again straight after with no way to stop it.
Cross-play a waste of time, PC community infested with cheating wankers who lag the match the moment you win one round or it looks like you're gonna win one. Happens every other game at least.
PS4 ranked is close to dead except evening and weekends, takes 5+ minutes to find an opponent at this hour.
 
Cross-play a waste of time, PC community infested with cheating wankers who lag the match the moment you win one round or it looks like you're gonna win one. Happens every other game at least.

This is nonsense, if you are talking about "alt-tab", it does nothing unless a very specific set of requirements are met; I tried to test it myself with a friend over 10k KM away and it did jack shit.
 
This is nonsense, if you are talking about "alt-tab", it does nothing unless a very specific set of requirements are met; I tried to test it myself with a friend over 10k KM away and it did jack shit.

No, it's not nonsense. When the match is fine and the moment you win a round or get a good life lead it suddenly goes to unplayable mess it's pretty obvious someone is being a bellend. I don't care what method is being used, it's the same end result.
 

Sixfortyfive

He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
I honestly can't remember the last time I ran into an obvious lag-switcher. Had to have been at least a month ago.

Theoretically enough to earn 2 seasons worth of 6 characters each, eh?

Not taking into account that you can technically earn back over 70,000 FM with each new character you get.
 
It's not "obvious", you have no way of knowing what happened on the other end (or even your end) to accuse anyone of being a cheating "bellend", or even worse, say the entire community is infested with cheating wankers.
 
I ran into a very obvious lag switcher once and he was on PS4

It's not "obvious", you have no way of knowing what happened on the other end (or even your end) to accuse anyone of being a cheating "bellend", or even worse, say the entire community is infested with cheating wankers.

I think its obvious when the game lags whenever you stun them lol. Only had that happen to me once against a guy with a very large win streak in ranked.
 
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