The most obvious case I saw for lag switch was against a Zangief. Connection was fine, then suddenly went to shit at the exact moment he v-triggers to suck me in, then activated his CA. At least I think that's what happened, because all I saw was about 4 frames of animation during that time.
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Street Fighter V |OT3| Frauds Among Us
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CrackpotDesert
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I'm going to get worse at this game because Dark Souls is out
Mediking
Member
Like I said before.... as someone whose kinda new to SF... this model is garbage and should die. Leveling up is flawed and pushing people to go through Survival even though its a joke is also messed up.
The Store doesn't even let you preview what Colors you're getting.
I love this game but screw this model.
I really do think Capcom should cater like crazy to the userbase whose actually playing their game and enjoying it. I already have the Season Pass but don't make Stages super expensive....
It's hilarious hot pitiful the FM is for playing online matches, you would think they would want to reward the players who are sticking to the game.
LucidMomentum
Member
Yeah basically this. My evenings usually split 50/50 between trials / ranked and hearthstone / Dota 2, but now DSIII is making me worse at everything else.
Yeah, I really haven't gotten anywhere beyond Ultra Bronze because I'm earning FM via single player.
So you don't care what method is used but still put the blame on the PC community because of one known but unreliable exploit. FYI for me most of the few matches with either permanent or sudden very pronounced lag issues are with players on the PS4. If people want to cheat they always find a way on whatever platform they are playing on.
With the exception of a few very obvious cases I don't even think that these people are necessarily cheating, issues with the netcode itself seem more likely to me.
TheSpoiler
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Lol, lagswitchers are on both systems. That shit is everywhere in every game.
And the model itself isn't that bad, it's that the current content isn't enough to compliment itself. You want us to get to level 50 with our characters for the last color? Fine, but allow me to gain EXP by hitting some offline matches or training BESIDES Survival too. It's abuseable, but who cares?
And the Survival mode method of unlocking shit is super archaic. What they should do is make that shit buyable with FM and/or make it unlockable with other means. Maybe the dailies could be incorporated into it.
In fact, I think the dailies and odd AI challenge mode could help out, as would an arcade mode/cpu vs mode that isn't in training. Possibly the story mode as well depending on how they do it. But tat shit isn't coming for a while, so people are stuck grinding it out for a color or having to go through Survival to get more shit.
I don't mind it as a system, it just needs more content to compliment what it's trying to do.
It's an ecosystem sort of thing. If they up it more, there'd be no reason to trek through the rest of the shit, nor possibly push people into spending money. They want you to grind that stuff out. Problem is, offline stuff doesn't really give you all that much since there's nothing to grind in, really.
And the model itself isn't that bad, it's that the current content isn't enough to compliment itself. You want us to get to level 50 with our characters for the last color? Fine, but allow me to gain EXP by hitting some offline matches or training BESIDES Survival too. It's abuseable, but who cares?
And the Survival mode method of unlocking shit is super archaic. What they should do is make that shit buyable with FM and/or make it unlockable with other means. Maybe the dailies could be incorporated into it.
In fact, I think the dailies and odd AI challenge mode could help out, as would an arcade mode/cpu vs mode that isn't in training. Possibly the story mode as well depending on how they do it. But tat shit isn't coming for a while, so people are stuck grinding it out for a color or having to go through Survival to get more shit.
I don't mind it as a system, it just needs more content to compliment what it's trying to do.
It's an ecosystem sort of thing. If they up it more, there'd be no reason to trek through the rest of the shit, nor possibly push people into spending money. They want you to grind that stuff out. Problem is, offline stuff doesn't really give you all that much since there's nothing to grind in, really.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
SF4 basically did it right from 2010 onward, but people bitched about that too. I guess substantial $15 expansion packs spaced two years apart were too much for some people?
Honestly they should just facilitate user-created cosmetic mods somehow and take a cut from that. Stuff the marketplace full of content that they only have to test (instead of create from scratch themselves), and then they could stand to be a little more lenient in doling out the fight money.
HappyPuppy
Member
Dam, wish my PC didn't have increase load times when I install mods. For some reason my load times increase x4 times.
Dislike Capcom's Alex, his face is so ugly. I like this mod, wish I could use it.
Mediking
Member
The model isn't really fair. Only people who are actually happy with it are the FGC guys who are amazing at Street Fighter. Gootecks doesn't think Survival is flawed and I'm looking at him like.... "You really can't see how stupid this thing is?"
And again, I don't HATE the game. I actually LOVE the gameplay and the fanservice. But this stupid, horrible, unfair model is not cool.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
I don't understand why I'm being quoted here.
I really think Online Match FM should be given out based on your rank. The higher your rank, the more you get for a win or a loss. It rewards the dedicated players and encourages people to play Ranked more so they can get more Fight Money easily.
But, that's something you'd want to do if you want to build a Competitive Base for your e-sports game.
But, that's something you'd want to do if you want to build a Competitive Base for your e-sports game.
Gipsy Danger
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TIL I'm a cheating wanker because I chose to play on my favoured platform.
Well beating a higher rank player gets you more XP, which will get you more fight money eventually, so that kind of system is kind of already there.
Although character level up FM is "finite" (can you go above lv50?), while the 50FM you get per win is not.
KhalilSyncere
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Yeah, at the very least, you should gain experience during lobby matches and offline matches. Even if it's a small minimum amount compared to online even. Most of my games are in battle lobbies cuz I get more playtime that way, but get nothign out of it for no reason whatsoever. They could implement a daily cap if needed for lobbies fights if they think it'd be abused due to it's immensely faster fight rotation. I say they set a cap of no more 1-2K fight money a day per any individual player. Hell, even if it was only a day for the mode itself plus experience points, it'd be something.
Gipsy Danger
Member
So you'd actively punish players for not being the best in the world? Seems like a terrible idea IMO.
As an aside, give me my god damn Dailies Capcom. I play the game near daily anyway, let me earn my shit.
LucidMomentum
Member
Adding dailies and "seasons" where each month you get a FM bonus for what the highest rank you reached would be legit.
Hearthstone does it and it's great.
Hearthstone does it and it's great.
Their idea for Fight Money was to reward dedicated players. As of now, Fight Money really does the opposite. 50 FM per win is pathetic. If you're Platinum rank, a win should net you 200 FM minimum per win.
Gipsy Danger
Member
I don't really think that's fair though. A platinum player puts in the same amount of effort to beat another platinum player as a bronze player puts in against another bronze player. Just the skill level is largely different. Someone can play the game for years and never reach silver, so why should they get less because they aren't as good as the platinum players?
Dailies would literally fix this problem. It rewards players who stick around and play a lot, but they just aren't in yet. Once they're in I would hope the FM isn't such an issue anymore.
sixteen-bit
Member
We heard about Alex on March 10th, so they're late lol. Perhaps tomorrow's Capcom Unity Blog post will have Guile deets. Fingers crossed.
CountBlack
Member
I'm not going to argue against more fight money per casual/ranked win. Right now, you need to win 2000 games for a single character (not counting character XP boosts). That's ridiculous. I still don't have the 300 ranked win achievement yet, and I feel like I play quite a bit.
Gipsy Danger
Member
I think the daily challenges should fix this but knowing Capcom they will probably be worth 100 each or something. It is pretty insane the time investment currently needed to afford a character.
I haven't played League in years but does anyone know roughly how long it took in that game?
It was a while but I remember getting a few characters through IP and some were cheaper which was pretty useful.
Nemesis121
Member
I am at 330k FM, All story done, each character easy survival done, and 2 trials done, along with all the Demo...also 1 normal mode survival...once i hit 600k i am done getting FM from trials and survival, got no plans to buy season pass, gonna grind this crap out..
In order to perform the Guile Press Release, they must hold downback and charge for two weeks
I think we should just accept that new characters to always show up at the last second, and that eventually one of the character releases is going to slip into the following month. This is the company that couldn't even get Alex's character trailer out in a decent time frame.
mikefrails
Banned
Is there a specific motion needed in order to "wall jump" with Chun Li?
Iirc according to the Capcom rep that posted in Alex's launch thread, that trailer was always intended to be released the day that Alex was going to be made playable, so on his launch day.
The same will probably happen with Guile.
sixteen-bit
Member
I don't expect Guile until April 30th, but Alex's press release and screenshots going out within the first 2 weeks of March set a dangerous precedent for at least some media
I just hit up and away when I hit the wall
I don't expect Guile until April 30th, but Alex's press release and screenshots going out within the first 2 weeks of March set a dangerous precedent for at least some media
The schedule slip is real?
thelastword
Banned
NO, These guys can get wins easily, they would have a huge advantage over lesser players where Fight Money is concerned. Not everybody who plays the game everyday is a platinum ranked player, your rank does not automatically determine how often you play or grind ranked matches.
There are more on PC though, it's easier to cheat on there, there's even an exploit where you alt tab to cause some slowdown for the other user. There may very well be some lag-switchers on PS4, but most of the issues I've had with PS4 players I'd chalk it mostly to wifi connections, people torrenting, netflixing or where the whole family is using the internet connection (phones, tablets, pc's) whilst "xxdynastyxx" is playing his Ryu online.
Well then this time they better not push Guile to the PC version until the day of release. Otherwise, we will once again get our first taste of the character by seeing a shitty player flail around with him aimlessly instead of in a well cut trailer.
the_log_ride
Member
Surprisingly, stopping my plinking habits from SF4 took less time than I thought. Getting in the habit of double-tapping, though, is not working for me.
I think why they did it is so the trailer could say "available now", rather than a date, or having to release two trailers. It makes sense, even if I don't consider it the best move.
The Mango Sentinel
Member
Nah it's cool if you just use Chun for all the basic shit. It would be nice to see other characters if it involves a difficult punish that some characters may have to approach differently, or if there's just character specific stuff.
Like there's some Vega stuff that not all characters can punish, or at least I don't think they can.
like what
KhalilSyncere
Member
THe loser's screen should be much more disparaging and condescending.
This is 100% nonsense. PS4 users can accomplish the exact same thing by hitting the home button to go to dashboard and then back into the game. It triggers a desync state same as alt tabbing.
It's also not a "lag switch". No lag is being generated. It just transfers the rollback from 1 user to the other, because Capcom are the absolute worst. So when you get "lag switched" you are just experiencing the rollback your opponent was dealing with.
lucebuce12
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FINALLY!!!!!
Fright Zone
Member
Thank the lord!
Excited for this month's patch... Guile, raqequit penalties... can we expect the zenny shop or daily challenges this month too!?
Excited for this month's patch... Guile, raqequit penalties... can we expect the zenny shop or daily challenges this month too!?
TheSpoiler
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RQers sweating hard
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