Thing about getting new CAs is that it would be mostly for the visual novelty rather than anything else, as the current CAs are already versatile enough to cover most of the uses that the selectable supers/ultras in the old games had. New V-stuff (V-Skills, V-Triggers, etc.), on the other hand, is a more interesting proposition as they can potentially be given different applications than the stuff that we currently have.
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Street Fighter V |OTVIII| New Delayed Generation - Controversial Inputs
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While i do agree that it sounds like bs, you can still say Kolin's story is a set-up for the next storyline since it features Gill.
Hours Left
Member
I'm not putting any stock into this "leak", but that would be an absolutely awful S3 set of characters.
Shadoken
Member
That leak seems half BS , half believable.
On one hand I think doing a Super SFV update would help the game's sales. A semi relaunch to get the game in the minds of gamers again. While also fixing alot of issues casuals had with the launch.
Problem is this will affect them in the long term. Gamers will once again not believe in Capcom when SFVI comes out and they will just do the "I'll wait for Super SFVI".
On one hand I think doing a Super SFV update would help the game's sales. A semi relaunch to get the game in the minds of gamers again. While also fixing alot of issues casuals had with the launch.
Problem is this will affect them in the long term. Gamers will once again not believe in Capcom when SFVI comes out and they will just do the "I'll wait for Super SFVI".
Retailers have been trying to move out vanilla SFV stock for a while now. Some sort of baseline retail replacement was clearly slated to come down the pipeline sooner rather than later.
The name change is a good thing to get attention and sales, hopefully there wouldn't be too many dummies thinking that buying in early was a bad thing or that people got "screwed" here, etc.
robotzombie
Member
And on top of that there's going to be all the people incorrectly crying "they said they'd never do a Super!"
Shadoken
Member
Thats the main issue here.
Your average gamer who bought SFV at launch and then sold it coz it had nothing is gonna see Super SFV retail disc and then be like.
"Holy shit this game is so much better than when i played SFV at launch. Am never buying a Capcom Fighter at launch again."
This too. Even if its a free update. idk how it will work out for Capcom in the end.
What makes you say that?
No blanka or Honda makes it great
No lies detected.
I think the difference is that, this update will be free for current owners and the retail/digital release will be for those that were on the fence or missed out on the initial game.
Oh that will happen for sure (I mean the FGC cry about literally everything) but you can't please everyone unfortunately.
One of many reasons as to why I love that list.
TheSpoiler
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I mean, I think those things are coming, but I dunno. It feels like those features are coming sooner rather than all the way sometime at the end of this year/next year. With the CFN done they don't have much to do for the next couple of months. I do think they are gonna add onto the base of this game and flesh it out more, maybe do some special mode for the "Super" release. But `I can't see them waiting that long for things like Extra Battle unless they have other pieces of content planned.
I just noticed Capcom made a small correction to the 2.1 patch notes. Guile only.
http://game.capcom.com/cfn/sfv/adjust/201705?lang=en
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And Combofiend's Capcom Unity blog post was updated as well. It reflects the same change.
http://www.capcom-unity.com/combofiend/blog/2017/03/15/street-fighter-v-season-2-balance-update
http://game.capcom.com/cfn/sfv/adjust/201705?lang=en
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And Combofiend's Capcom Unity blog post was updated as well. It reflects the same change.
http://www.capcom-unity.com/combofiend/blog/2017/03/15/street-fighter-v-season-2-balance-update
Rickenslacker
Banned
If that S3 leak is true then blehhh Ibuki and Sakura in the same game again, enough with the bubbly schoolgirls, I want my hardened one.
And if you can show me anyone who ever wanted Oro in the game I can show you a liar.
And if you can show me anyone who ever wanted Oro in the game I can show you a liar.
Rickenslacker
Banned
I'm on to you.
Please oh please give Hsien-Ko a chance at redemption for MvCI
SolarPowered
Member
That is a good list for season 3 DLC characters. Not gonna hold my breath, though.
Yep, new v-skills, v-triggers and v-reversals are needed far more than critical arts. The latter won't do anything at all for weaker characters.
She got done dirty and she'll never be fixed. Just like Alex will always be permabutt for 99% of users in SFV.
To be fair, Oro was teased in the SFV character stories, plus there's that one premium figurine that's being made for him.
Wasn't Alex mediocre->bad in all incarnations of SF3 though? I'm inclined at this point to think that his base character design has a lot of issues.
Shadoken
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Thats true. The list does look very believable. All of them have had very noticeable teases. Necro was also in the Halloween stage and Viper/Sakura was in story mode.
Actually even S2 was somewhat balanced in terms of reps. Akuma - SF2 , Kolin - SF3 , Ed,Menat - SFV , Abigail - FF , Zeku - Alpha.
Am assuming Abigail and Zeku will tease FF vets for the inevitable FF themed Season 4
And Necro is in the background of the Halloween stage. Foreshadowing like they did with Alex? Maybe? ¯\_(ツ
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Shadoken
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And Necro is in the background of the Halloween stage. Foreshadowing like they did with Alex? Maybe? ¯\_(ツ
Soon they will release Ken Nostalgia stage with Q in the background lol
Thats true. The list does look very believable. All of them have had very noticeable teases. Necro was also in the Halloween stage and Viper/Sakura was in story mode.
Actually even S2 was somewhat balanced in terms of reps. Akuma - SF2 , Kolin - SF3 , Ed,Menat - SFV , Abigail - FF , Zeku - Alpha.
Am assuming Abigail and Zeku will tease FF vets for the inevitable FF themed Season 4
I believe the only one on that list who wasn't either already mentioned by Sneakers or teased in-game is Q. And even then, Crimson Viper's CFN Portal bio says that she's currently investigating him.And Necro is in the background of the Halloween stage. Foreshadowing like they did with Alex? Maybe? ¯\_(ツ
Either way, I'd be somewhat inclined to believe the list of characters just based on Alex Valle's tweet, not so much because of the Reddit guy.
sixteen-bit
Member
If Alex Valle did low-key leak Season 3, we may have to wait a little longer for Abel.
just give 720 grab supers to most of the cast, that's diff enough for everyone
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
That Ghouls and Ghosts prediction is pretty bold. If that comes true, it'll be hard to remain skeptical of the other info.
KidA Seven
Member
What about the neutral tools though?
just proving that fans have the worst taste, as Oro and Necro are the best SF3 has to offer
gral shortening of normals across the board
Give Zangief a charge super then.
Yeah, I agree. Each CA does basically everything anyway so the game would need to be overhauled to justify new CAs like introducing multi-stock supers a la 3S.
SneakersSO
Member
Why would that be an awful set of S3 characters? As far as I know, the two highest requested characters are Sagat & Sakura - this covers that. The rest of the cast has unique playstyles that don't really overlap with what is currently in SFV.
Btw, not confirming or denying what this person is positing. Just saying - I don't think that this list would be underwhelming in the slightest.
Shadoken
Member
Pack it up boys.. official confirmation right there.
I agree it would be a pretty good season (I need Q and Oro is great) but Necro is kind of an odd choice. I kind of expected Sagat or Sakura this year due to all the "haters will be left behind" stuff. Like I assumed there would be a big surprise this year as opposed to a year of decent updates that slowly make the game what it should have been initially.
SolarPowered
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It was more like they were always cautious about making top tier grapplers and Alex has always had tools that should theoretically work for everything. His big body grab super that could do huge damage could be jumped out of on reaction (even scrubs could jump out of it), his fullscreen autotracking air hitbox posessing EX stomp got nerfed to hell in SFV, his spiral DDT which could be an indispensable midrange grab tool went from sucking ass in 3S to oblivion in SFV, his boomerang raid SA could literally whiff ON HIT in 3S and these are just some of the examples. In 3S he has a more varied toolset, but he lacks good combo paths, his command grabs are too slow, his SAs are garbage and parries kill most of his mixup buttons. In SFV he gets big damage at close range far more easily with f.HP crush counters, his AA game is a bit stronger, he has TONS of combos in comparison and his v-trigger is actually pretty good. Unfortunately in SFV he frustratingly lacks answers for pressure (because frame one armor on EX slash elbow is such a simple and major fix dammit), close range jump ins DESTROY him, his midrange combo potential is terrible, he lacks punishing high/low mixup buttons and his command grabs lack range/speed/oki. Capcom just has plans in mind for characters they want players and viewers to see. Alex along with some other characters just happen to not be a part of those plans.
lucebuce12
Member
That list is dope because it has Sakura and Oro in it but it is also shit because it has Necro and no Honda.
Hey, I've been agreeing with you from the very beginning that Necalli is one of the best characters in the game!
I need her playable.
SneakersSO
Member
No lies detected here. Oro with floating rock bubble shield projectiles that fly out when pressing buttons as his V-trigger would be really dope.
I know you're joking, but there is actually significant market research that states most consumers already believe this. This isn't a new idea by any means. Capcom leaning into it would be smart.
lucebuce12
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SneakersSO
Member
That's embarrassing LOL.
Mid screen throw loops. Corner throw loops weren't taken out (see Ken).