Hey man, if you wanna have a fun conversation about that issue, we can talk about sega and sonic in particular. Because its been a deluge of fuckery and has not stopped since the 90s.
...I mean those mods ALSO exist
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Street Fighter V |OTVIII| New Delayed Generation - Controversial Inputs
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Hey man, if you wanna have a fun conversation about that issue, we can talk about sega and sonic in particular. Because its been a deluge of fuckery and has not stopped since the 90s.
...I mean those mods ALSO exist
UcchedavÄda
Member
Love the expressions in the 5th one.
direct_quote
Member
RIP me.
TheSpoiler
Member
This new one tho
This new one might be good.
Making your own character is like half the fanbases dream
Not talking shit about DeeJay seems paramount to " not breathing"
A lot of the fanbases reaction was " this game still looks like a hot mess , I would rather I could just play as a character I know with focused level design".A lot o the reactions since jump have been , luke warm.And it does look like a hot mess, there is classic sonic gameplay that doesn't look good and will ultimately look like more ass next to the new classic sonic game they are making. The 3d sonic we havent seem enough to determine whether that's ass or not , because the game is actually directed by the lost world guy, ( they didn't mention that ) and the last time he got to do shit... he made fucking lost world, so we have to check on the level design of those 3d parts. And there is no garutee that the shadow the hedgehog ( the game)-esque sections will be more than mediocre objective based gameplay... like it was in shadow the hedgehog.There is a lot of apprehension in the fan base, people burned too many times, seeing the same issues. Watching a company who doesn't have confidence in their brand throw shit at a wall. Along with a other issues to long to get into in this thread.
The customization might be tight, and will definitely be fun for kids though. There is a chance 2/3rds of that game is dookie though.
After development there will most likely be a new addition to the new eastvswest fuckery deluge , because there's been shit happening during the development of the game we didn't have context for we now kinda do.
I hope that games good though, I hope it is. I don't it is.
A lot of the fanbases reaction was " this game still looks like a hot mess , I would rather I could just play as a character I know with focused level design".A lot o the reactions since jump have been , luke warm.And it does look like a hot mess, there is classic sonic gameplay that doesn't look good and will ultimately look like more ass next to the new classic sonic game they are making. The 3d sonic we havent seem enough to determine whether that's ass or not , because the game is actually directed by the lost world guy, ( they didn't mention that ) and the last time he got to do shit... he made fucking lost world, so we have to check on the level design of those 3d parts. And there is no garutee that the shadow the hedgehog ( the game)-esque sections will be more than mediocre objective based gameplay... like it was in shadow the hedgehog.There is a lot of apprehension in the fan base, people burned too many times, seeing the same issues. Watching a company who doesn't have confidence in their brand throw shit at a wall. Along with a other issues to long to get into in this thread.
The customization might be tight, and will definitely be fun for kids though. There is a chance 2/3rds of that game is dookie though.
After development there will most likely be a new addition to the new eastvswest fuckery deluge , because there's been shit happening during the development of the game we didn't have context for we now kinda do.
I hope that games good though, I hope it is. I don't it is.
where the source at for this sweet news?
plasmawave
Banned
Nier's been collaborating with a lot of games so they should do something with SFV too.
UcchedavÄda
Member
Unfortunately I think that might just be an X-Kira alt or somebody just grabbing whatever bullshit X-Kira is "leaking". They've posted pretty much the exact same things that X-Kira has "leaked", but with different credits.
Hours Left
Member
Same twitter account with the datamined Bison and Rashid costume info.
spazchicken
Member
I made a practical beginner Ed combo video. I have one or two intermediate combos throw in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AovxzDUq_MM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AovxzDUq_MM
TheSpoiler
Member
Goddamnit. Why can't they just make Generations.
I feel that way. The game looks like it's going to be another throwaway Sonic game. 2D Sonic gameplay already looks worse than Generations (the 2D physics from Generations don't seem to be present in the game; 2D gameplay footage shows lots of boost pads and Sonic with a slower top speed), and 3D boost gameplay is tired and repetitive after 8 years of it. Aside from Mania, Sega literally has no idea what to do with Sonic.
You know, this sort of makes me think. In the English voice over, it seems like none of the SF characters speak with accents save for the European ones. Rashid, Ryu, Laura and Guile all come from different parts of the world but all speak with American accents. But Abel speaks with a French accent, Cammy and Birdie have British accents, Gief and Kolin have Russian accents, Vega has a Spanish accent, etc. They're weirdly consistent about this "only Europeans speak with accents" thing.
Granted, I haven't played much SFIV so I don't know if folks like Rose, Fuerte and Hakan speak with accents of the regions they're from.
Killer Queen
Banned
Picked up the game yesterday, really enjoying it but one thing: i cannot for the life of me pull off any CA moves.
I can do just about everything else (aside from Z motion moves) but i just don't get how to pull off CA moves. Help please?
Playing on ps4
I can do just about everything else (aside from Z motion moves) but i just don't get how to pull off CA moves. Help please?
Playing on ps4
spazchicken
Member
What character are you using? It's usually double quarter circle motion and a single button.
The problem I run into when I can't pull it off is that I'm not doing the complete motion. Go into training and turn on "key display" and it'll show you if you are completing the quarter circle motion or not.
TheSpoiler
Member
If you can pull off fireballs or other moves, you are halfway there! Just add another motion on top of your fireball and it'll come out. You don't have to do it super quick - the game is pretty lax about inputs. Find a good rhythm for it too.
Killer Queen
Banned
Ive tried it with pretty much all of the characters, haven't pulled it off with one yet, been using training mode and have key inputs on and it says im doing it. (Down, down middle right) and again, I can do it with any single quarter circle move but double quarter circle is just the death of me.
Guess its just practice then huh
Reizo Ryuu
Member
It's pretty much just that: fireball motion x2.
So just practice doing a fireball without the actual animation of the character following too obviously a long with your inputs.
Once you get to that point, just do the motion twice before inputting punch.
Roll it to upforward. When I had this problem, I would hit the buttons too early.
Yep. The check mark motion super that Guile and Dejay have in 4 still messes me up.
Double quarter circle forward, you might just have to practice, if you are using a controller, make sure you practice sometimes you think you are doing a quater circle but you are actually doing a 3rd circle motion and not getting everything. I switch between using the analog and D-pad myself to mitagte that a bit
They are and that's sort of the problem. Or rather the more appropriation question is, why can't they just make the 3d parts or generations. I can't answer you that, there is a plethor of fan games, and mods on that engine that show they could just expand on that forumla add some characters with different navigation mechanics instead of level mechanics, create 2d specific levels that puts that engine to the test and creates a more faithful 2d to 3d sonic experience. But they didn't, we got forces, and it really seems like they aren't confident in their product. When they aren't confident, they just start adding shit that makes it worse.
I like boost, but agree their kinda aimless. Though i'm a bit more concerned about something no one is asking about. What the fuck is the movie that is coming out next year even supposed to be, and is it even coming out. What the fuck even is that? I bet you forgot, I bet you forget that there is a sony pictures sonic the hedgehog live action movie scheduled for next year.
So I just picked up the Free comic book day SFV wrestling special comic.
And it just reafirms that we need an Capcom All Stars Saturday Morning Slam Masters game.
Dan fights the CWA Mikas wrestling league because Belgar from final fight is the Manager of the wrestling federation and treats the CWA like shit. Sakura and the entire cast from Rival schools is in the crowd and Joins in the fray and they all brawl together.
Then there's a flashback where Zangief is fighting Haggar in the 80's and Haggar is winning, but then gets double teamed by Mikehal Gorbechev....and is then saved by Ronald Reagan wielding an attack bald eagle, when they win...Reagan gives Haggar the idea to run for politics because politics is all about putting on a show.
Give me a wrestling game like this capcom!?
And it just reafirms that we need an Capcom All Stars Saturday Morning Slam Masters game.
Dan fights the CWA Mikas wrestling league because Belgar from final fight is the Manager of the wrestling federation and treats the CWA like shit. Sakura and the entire cast from Rival schools is in the crowd and Joins in the fray and they all brawl together.
Then there's a flashback where Zangief is fighting Haggar in the 80's and Haggar is winning, but then gets double teamed by Mikehal Gorbechev....and is then saved by Ronald Reagan wielding an attack bald eagle, when they win...Reagan gives Haggar the idea to run for politics because politics is all about putting on a show.
Give me a wrestling game like this capcom!?
Megawarrior
Member
Oh that sounds nice. I would like to see this done to Bison.
It will be interesting to see what everyone strips. Because there are some costumes that are like, " if you strip anymore they will basically be naked" and I mean, you can play that game. Its a different game though. Odds are, it may add clothing in some cases, kens Christmas outfit adds thing when you use the code as well as takes some things away.
disappeared
Banned
So, psn sale question
Game's on sale for $25 but I realize it's the base game with no dlc. As someone who mains Cammy am I fine with just the base game for a while? Like if I jump online are there compatibility packs I can download to play against people who use dlc fighters?
also silly bonus question but Ultra IV is on sale for $12, is it worth it going back?
Game's on sale for $25 but I realize it's the base game with no dlc. As someone who mains Cammy am I fine with just the base game for a while? Like if I jump online are there compatibility packs I can download to play against people who use dlc fighters?
also silly bonus question but Ultra IV is on sale for $12, is it worth it going back?
Reizo Ryuu
Member
There's no "compatibility" packs, there's only one version of SF5 and everyone can play with everyone else.
You can get a lot of characters with FM, but honestly, you'd be better off getting the deluxe for...40? I think it is? Since it has 12 extra characters, a stage and thus a fuckton of FM for you to spend on other things like colours/stages, story costumes, 2018 characters.
disappeared
Banned
Thanks for the info. The deluxe version is $53 canadian which is a bit steep for me right now. The FM option sounds good, I totally forgot you can buy characters that way.
Hm.
Also what about Ultra IV? Worth it or should I just jump into V?
Is there a consensus on the new CFN? I see virtually no difference except that teleporting problems have transformed into micro-skips that last the entire round instead. It looks like an emulator on frame-skip or something instead of full on teleporting. I guess it's better in a way, but it still isn't great.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
SF4 has been left behind
CFN is a data gathering and matchmaking server, you're not playing on a server, but peer 2 peer.
Rickenslacker
Banned
Midnight Bliss is my weakness. But I do like cover #5, anytime they use Makoto is a win.
Nemesis121
Member
No change from S1, it's the same thing, the netcode wasn't change they added more features, I didn't play today, but Yesterday i had to blacklist a very laggy Canadian, the very next fight i got another Canadian and it was a super smooth fight, no lag, the inconsistency of the netcode is just annoying...
Got a ps4 and one of the first games I'd said I get was SFV. Man this game is hard as nails. Playing with ryu and I don't even know what to do. Like I can come up with a plan and cannot execute it whatsoever.
Playing as Ryu just because I heard he's very easy to pick up. Of the other characters I played(got standard edition so got barely any characters unlocked.I do like Mika. I was stringing some stuff together from what I remember from Fuudo's gameplay.
But yeah I need a guide cause I'm lost. Execution seems tough can't string things together and I frequently get mis-inputs. Instead of a shoryuken, I'd do a hadoken -__-
Makes me appreciate top level play and even mid level play a hell of a lot more.
Playing as Ryu just because I heard he's very easy to pick up. Of the other characters I played(got standard edition so got barely any characters unlocked.I do like Mika. I was stringing some stuff together from what I remember from Fuudo's gameplay.
But yeah I need a guide cause I'm lost. Execution seems tough can't string things together and I frequently get mis-inputs. Instead of a shoryuken, I'd do a hadoken -__-
Makes me appreciate top level play and even mid level play a hell of a lot more.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
The easiest way to stop this from happening is doing a half circle motion instead of a quarter circle. the other way is to let go of your input device completely (letting it go to neutral) before doing the motion, but I find that to be slower.
This way you can do fireballs while walking forward and not get an srk.
Ahh, gotcha. I thought it was a full overhaul. Guess it's kind of a placebo effect on my end. At least there are less errors and mildly faster matchmaking.
Etrian Oddity
Member
720 I'm getting better at, they gave Zangief the tools to enable it. You can combo pretty nicely out of headbutt or Cr.MP; the Cyclone Lariat is good because they're always gonna block and fear the hits; and well, if you guess right wakeup CA is demoralizing as hell for the opponent. XD
Agreed on all fronts.
Do not feel discouraged. I got this game at fucking launch and I'm total scrub level in my consistency (though that's because I neglect to spend a ton of time in the lab, which every good player does).
Something I've learned about footsies is that you cannot just react, as unless you're Ricki Ortiz your reflexes probably aren't that bad. It's more about educated prediction in where you throw your buttons, otherwise you'll just be a sitting duck.
I'm sure you're way better than you actually are for a beginner. I myself actually need to start asking the guys here for reps again so they can give me advice.
Also, save your closest match replays and study them. I constantly find myself going, "wtf did I do that/where is my punish?"
I'm a fellow Ryu main who's progressing through the lower ranks so I know what you're going through.
Here are some specific tips:
(1) Learn the range of your normal attacks. St.MP and St.MK are helpful to poke at opponents. St.MP is a combo starter so it's more useful yet has shorter range. Cr.MK is good for poking as well but right now St.LK has slightly more range and it's a faster move.
(2) Work on your execution by playing, playing, and playing some more. My execution has improved a lot just from playing the game and working on my inputs. Some time in training mode will do wonders. Practice and then turn on opponent AI or play Survival.
Also, there are some shortcuts that help with Shoryukens. I personally use forward->down forward->forward for Shoryukens when walking towards an opponent. When using cr.HP to combo into Shoryuken I use down-forward->forward->down-forward.
(3) Practice anti-airing! Anti-airing is a big part of the game. If you let opponents get easy jump-ins on you then you're doing it wrong! Start by practicing anti-airing with MP Shoryuken and St.HK.
But the best thing I can recommend are the Gief's Gym lessons that were put together by one of the r/Streetfighter mods. It teaches you all the basics and has helpful videos that demonstrate each lesson. Check out this link and try going through the first two sets of lessons (ignore the character links and try the general lessons).
https://www.reddit.com/r/StreetFighter/wiki/v/giefsgym/
TheSpoiler
Member
To be fair, with their servers being awful and causing problems before the new CFN, I wouldn't put it past anyone to assume it's the game's fault rather than just bumping into wifi warriors who steal bars from starbucks. Sadly, nothing can be done about people running on busted internet, and those problems feel worse on rollback compared to delay.
Stupendous, one of the best Giefs in the US, is trying to learn Balrog on stream:
http://www.twitch.tv/happystupendous
I think he said a little while ago that he was thinking of picking up Rog to counter the Sim matchup.
http://www.twitch.tv/happystupendous
I think he said a little while ago that he was thinking of picking up Rog to counter the Sim matchup.
Rickenslacker
Banned
Stu sullies himself as a Gief main by not embracing the struggle. Cory Bell-chan remains pure.
Played by a British actor :v
I guess i'm the only one that finds midnight bliss creepy
I find that move extremely creepy, and I can kinda understand marvel specifically not being into that.
It's just a fanservice thing that really has no explanation besides....I guess someone on the dev team had some sort of fetish...probably a rare case of something like that making it in a game...I mean...who on capcom would design a character to cater to specific fetishes? thank goodness we dont see that stuff in street fighter.
I mean they have been obvious uh... preferences in street fighter as well. The 3rd strike artist... really really liked alex. Then you have urien and his everything, juri and a lot of stuff going on with juri , then that one artist who is obsessed with chun. Having preferences and even expressing them in design is fine.
Just you know, somethings are more tactful than " i turned you into a woman, you are now mine and I shall take you" You know... that creep ass mess
they didn't help kolin either, damnit