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[Surfside]

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Harada says that people don't use tutorials in fighting games

games should transparent more stuff to the player. nowadays we are down to combo count, stun, guard break if available, counter hits

I think the next step should be transparenting frame advantage. maybe with some special effect (some kind of wind if you block or are hit in a situation where you had frame advantage, and more effect for bigger frame advantage) or plain old just saying the number on screen

I use them. They save me a lot of time, which i would otherwise spent searching the internet. Really, every fighter should have them!

 

[Blueblur1]

How are the tutorials in the past couple of Tekken games? If they sucked I wouldn’t surprised if folks ignored them.

 

[jett]

TOSTADA PRESS

This game needs more wrasslers.

 

[ElFly]

I think Crush Counters were a badly misguided attempt at doing this with counter hits.

I think they are ok but I'd drastically reduce their recovery

they don't mesh well with the cancel system, and if I had to choose, I'd keep crush counters

but what I was talking about was simply the "counter" indicator when a counter happens, tho not necessarily a crush counter

How are the tutorials in the past couple of Tekken games? If they sucked I wouldn't surprised if folks ignored them.

most tutorials suck tho; it's best to integrate them with a story mode but that can also be boring

 

[Skab]

Only wrestling this game needs is turkish oil wrestling

 

[Pompadour]

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Harada says that people don't use tutorials in fighting games

games should transparent more stuff to the player. nowadays we are down to combo count, stun, guard break if available, counter hits

I think the next step should be transparenting frame advantage. maybe with some special effect (some kind of wind if you block or are hit in a situation where you had frame advantage, and more effect for bigger frame advantage) or plain old just saying the number on screen

I agree with all of this. It's stupid how much information is obscured for no reason in fighting games.

Things like the Heavy hit on block animations in Street Fighter V or the "!" when you block incorrectly in Xrd is great.

I'm not asking for overheads, lows, invincible moves, and grabs be all color coded but there should be a subtle indicator that gives the necessary info on a move just by looking at it.

How are the tutorials in the past couple of Tekken games? If they sucked I wouldn’t surprised if folks ignored them.

The Tekken Tag Tournament 2 one was pretty in-depth but no one buys a game because they hear it has an expansive tutorial mode.

I think Crush Counters were a badly misguided attempt at doing this with counter hits.

Their implementation is bad but visually and aurally they get the job done. They're much more effective than GG Fatal Counters in that regard.

 

[MrCarter]

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Harada says that people don't use tutorials in fighting games.

That interview was awful. So full of corporate shit to justify why something was not included in a product.

Even with a shoestring budget and a loathsome art style, Jedah in MvC:I turned out pretty okay.

Yes, Jedah and some of he newer DLC characters like Monster Hunter and Black Panther look very good. Still think it’s a shame they went with that bland art style because the animations, hit sparks and effects look very nice.

 

[JusDoIt]

Anybody think SFV will hit its OG sales target of 2 million before AE drops?

It's at 1.7 million as of June 2017. The third quarter just ended Sept 30th I believe, so new sales numbers should be coming out soon.

After the initial 1.4 million it took SFV like 16 months to move another 300,000, which is a mere 18,750 units for the average month. Sales haven't been updated since Menat's release or AE's announcement, though.

I figure even if there's no major boost it hits at least 1.8 million by the end of the year (finally catching up with SFxT), but hype might could maybe push another 200,000 copies before January.

Spoiler

Yes, I care.

 

[TheSpoiler]

If anything the announcement probably halted sales since people would probably just wanna wait for AE to jump in.

 

[Blueblur1]

If Capcom is smart (and has the budget for it) they’ll make another commercial like this one:

https://youtu.be/9vbsQPRuqEg

 

[Surfside]

Anybody think SFV will hit its OG sales target of 2 million before AE drops?

It's at 1.7 million as of June 2017. The third quarter just ended Sept 30th I believe, so new sales numbers should be coming out soon.

After the initial 1.4 million it took SFV like 16 months to move another 300,000, which is a mere 18,750 units for the average month. Sales haven't been updated since Menat's release or AE's announcement, though.

I figure even if there's no major boost it hits at least 1.8 million by the end of the year (finally catching up with SFxT), but hype might could maybe push another 200,000 copies before January.

Spoiler

Yes, I care.

I doubt that it will hit that target, before the AE is out. But i expect a major sales boost after its release. That's what i hope for anyway.

I'm wondering, how big their marketing push will be.

 

[Neoxon]

I doubt that it will hit that target, before the AE is out. But i expect a major sales boost after its release. That's what i hope for anyway.

I'm wondering, how big their marketing push will be.

I'm honestly not expecting that much of a marketing push beyond a few YouTube commercials.

 

[Surfside]

I'm honestly not expecting that much of a marketing push beyond a few YouTube commercials.

Well, i thought they could have an commercial on espn. Though maybe that's too pricey for them. But they need to invest something, if they want a decent return.

 

[Pompadour]

If Capcom is smart (and has the budget for it) they’ll make another commercial like this one:

https://youtu.be/9vbsQPRuqEg

Well, SF4 sold extremely well so a huge marketing push to sell off unsold retail copies seems unlikely.

 

[sixteen-bit]

I would be surprised tbh.

 

[OmnipotentO]

TOSTADA PRESS

This game needs more wrasslers.

Hear you loud and clear. more El Fuerte

 

[MrCarter]

Anybody think SFV will hit its OG sales target of 2 million before AE drops?

It's at 1.7 million as of June 2017. The third quarter just ended Sept 30th I believe, so new sales numbers should be coming out soon.

After the initial 1.4 million it took SFV like 16 months to move another 300,000, which is a mere 18,750 units for the average month. Sales haven't been updated since Menat's release or AE's announcement, though.

I figure even if there's no major boost it hits at least 1.8 million by the end of the year (finally catching up with SFxT), but hype might could maybe push another 200,000 copies before January.

Spoiler

Yes, I care.

Now, I’ve said this before, in order for SFV to truly reach their sales projections and sell far better they need to release this on more platforms. Switch would be massive. It’s just a shame they snookered themselves with this elaborate deal with Sony which prevents it from reaching it’s full potential.

 

[mbpm1]

Wolverine?!

I see Blanka

Shit

 

[JusDoIt]

Now, I've said this before, in order for SFV to truly reach their sales projections and sell far better they need to release this on more platforms. Switch would be massive. It's just a shame they snookered themselves with this elaborate deal with Sony which prevents it from reaching it's full potential.

I don't know. 2 million on PS4 and PC seemed like a pretty reasonable projection. Now if they were aiming for SFIV numbers, then yeah, they'd definitely need more platforms.

If Capcom is smart (and has the budget for it) they'll make another commercial like this one:

https://youtu.be/9vbsQPRuqEg

YO. I knew the Just Blaze commercial existed, but somehow this is my first time seeing it. That shit is dope and now I dearly wish Capcom would hire him for AE's OST.

 

[Pompadour]

Now, I’ve said this before, in order for SFV to truly reach their sales projections and sell far better they need to release this on more platforms. Switch would be massive. It’s just a shame they snookered themselves with this elaborate deal with Sony which prevents it from reaching it’s full potential.

Or they could have had an even more gimped SFV on all platforms because of no Sony funding a la MvCI.

 

[Fright Zone]

If Capcom is smart (and has the budget for it) they’ll make another commercial like this one:

https://youtu.be/9vbsQPRuqEg

God I love that ad. I remember being so hype at the time. What a beat.

 

[TheSpoiler]

They really don't need to spend that much on adverts like TV commercials and shit like that. Just do Youtube/Display Targeting, allow people to stream all the new content (especially big Youtubers), and let the positive word of mouth carry the game. Esports then steps in and entices people every month to pick up the game that's no longer apparently ass and there you go, it sells a bunch more copies than just tossing it out into the wilds.

They already did good by addressing how people can buy the thing and not get fucked over, promoting the shit people wanted, and gathering a decent amount of press. If they can keep up their digital presence and maybe get a few display ads hosted on major websites, like GameFAQS and IGN and all that stuff to remind people, they'll do good.

 

[JusDoIt]

They really don't need to spend that much on adverts like TV commercials and shit like that. Just do Youtube/Display Targeting, allow people to stream all the new content (especially big Youtubers), and let the positive word of mouth carry the game. Esports then steps in and entices people every month to pick up the game that's no longer apparently ass and there you go, it sells a bunch more copies than just tossing it out into the wilds.

They already did good by addressing how people can buy the thing and not get fucked over, promoting the shit people wanted, and gathering a decent amount of press. If they can keep up their digital presence and maybe get a few display ads hosted on major websites, like GameFAQS and IGN and all that stuff to remind people, they'll do good.

I feel like esports actually gives them more reason to make a great TV ad. If you’re gonna have the game broadcast on ESPN2, TBS, and Disney XD or whatnot, might as well have a spot that you can at least run on them channels along with edits that are suitable for YouTube/Facebook/Twitch/Twitter.

 

[Zombegoast]

It needs to have a f2p model. Aries also brought this up that the PC platform should be the main focus on the FGC.

Imagine if Valve sponsor it and makes a Steam Machine design for fighting games.

 

[JusDoIt]

“Aries” should stick to Round Table Pizza strats.

 

[Blueblur1]

YO. I knew the Just Blaze commercial existed, but somehow this is my first time seeing it. That shit is dope and now I dearly wish Capcom would hire him for AE's OST.

God I love that ad. I remember being so hype at the time. What a beat.

Here’s a fan made SSFIV trailer using the actual full track with lyrics.

https://youtu.be/CtkorxvRQ2s

 

[mbpm1]

The God of War with his atpRtsd

 

[JusDoIt]

Here’s a fan made SSFIV trailer using the actual full track with lyrics.

https://youtu.be/CtkorxvRQ2s

Red Rapper on a Just Blaze beat is such a waste. haha Somebody find Jay Electronica’s lazy ass and make him rap on this. It’s not like he’s working on his own album, so he might as well.

 

[Zero-ELEC]

Redrapper's Marvel 3 EVO intro music was amazing, back in the day. Also his SSFIVAExWu-Tang Remix.

I miss Redrapper. He still does stuff, right?

 

[Beckx]

Only wrestling this game needs is turkish oil wrestling

You're good people

Hakan

Spoiler

's wife

for season 3

 

[Blueblur1]

I’m looking forward to waking up to Zeku. Hope he’s dope cuz so far none of the S2 characters have been interesting to me.

 

[Moaradin]

I’m looking forward to waking up to Zeku. Hope he’s dope cuz so far none of the S2 characters have been interesting to me.

Isn't that sunday night?

 

[JusDoIt]

Isn't that sunday night?

Sunday morning if you’re in the west (1 AM PST). Regardless of your time zone it’s in a few hours.

 

[Moaradin]

Sunday morning if you’re in the west (1 AM PST). Regardless of your time zone it’s in a few hours.

ah, I thought it was monday morning.

 

[abstract alien]

ah, I thought it was monday morning.

Stop trying to delay greatness!

 

[lucebuce12]

Sunday morning if you're in the west (1 AM PST). Regardless of your time zone it's in a few hours.

eww your avatar

I think the next step should be transparenting frame advantage. maybe with some special effect (some kind of wind if you block or are hit in a situation where you had frame advantage, and more effect for bigger frame advantage) or plain old just saying the number on screen

eww

 

[abstract alien]

I still literally have no idea if I land a counter hit outside of waiting for the word to pop up on the side of the screen, in which case it's too late. There should be some indicator for that at least, right?

Unless the indicator is the word.

 

[lucebuce12]

I still literally have no idea if I land a counter hit outside of waiting for the word to pop up on the side of the screen, in which case it's too late. There should be some indicator for that at least, right?

Unless the indicator is the word.

The indicator is the word. I almost never have trouble recognizing that i landed a CH with FANG, since landing CH confirms is a major part of his gameplan. I've landed CH ST.HKs into st.hp, even when the first of the st.hk didn't connect and it was just the second hit.

When an indicator pops up on your peripheral, that's the indication because there's nothing else that's gonna pop up so you know what to look for.

 

[JusDoIt]

eww your avatar

B O N I T A B O Y Z

 

[direct_quote]

eww your avatar
eww

Yah I hope Laura is scrubbed from the SF franchise, just like Rufus.

 

[JusDoIt]

Yah I hope Laura is scrubbed from the SF franchise, just like Rufus.

That’s Sean’s mama, tho.

 

[GodParticle]

Why are throw loops in the corner still a thing?? Makes me want to jump out my first floor window >_<

 

[lucebuce12]

Why are throw loops in the corner still a thing?? Makes me want to jump out my first floor window >_<

Pick one to blame:

 

[mbpm1]

Why are throw loops in the corner still a thing?? Makes me want to jump out my first floor window >_<

I like how you clarified that it was the first floor

 

[abstract alien]

The indicator is the word. I almost never have trouble recognizing that i landed a CH with FANG, since landing CH confirms is a major part of his gameplan. I've landed CH ST.HKs into st.hp, even when the first of the st.hk didn't connect and it was just the second hit.

When an indicator pops up on your peripheral, that's the indication because there's nothing else that's gonna pop up so you know what to look for.

No wonder I'm terrible. Guess I need to hit up the random counter in training mode.

 

[direct_quote]

Why are throw loops in the corner still a thing?? Makes me want to jump out my first floor window >_<

Guile has throw loops anywhere on the screen...

 

[GodParticle]

I'm gonna have a word with those 3. I'm waiting on s3 before I move up a floor

 

[Sayad]

Anybody think SFV will hit its OG sales target of 2 million before AE drops?

It's at 1.7 million as of June 2017. The third quarter just ended Sept 30th I believe, so new sales numbers should be coming out soon.

After the initial 1.4 million it took SFV like 16 months to move another 300,000, which is a mere 18,750 units for the average month. Sales haven't been updated since Menat's release or AE's announcement, though.

I figure even if there's no major boost it hits at least 1.8 million by the end of the year (finally catching up with SFxT), but hype might could maybe push another 200,000 copies before January.

Spoiler

Yes, I care.

It could if they cut the price of the deluxe edition(game+S1+S2) to $40, it would give people planning to pick up AE no reason to wait!

 

[lupinko]

It needs to have a f2p model. Aries also brought this up that the PC platform should be the main focus on the FGC.

Imagine if Valve sponsor it and makes a Steam Machine design for fighting games.

Capcom still cares about Japan and PC is not a thing outside of Minecraft and doujin games.

 

[JusDoIt]

It could if they cut the price of the deluxe edition(game+S1+S2) to $40, it would give people planning to pick up AE no reason to wait!

It’s currently on sale on PSN for exactly that.