The amount of people who downloaded let alone played the entire story mode is fuck all to all the people who've seen necalli get pushed....
Also helps that necalli is tournament relevant
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Street Fighter V: Season 2 changes
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The amount of people who downloaded let alone played the entire story mode is fuck all to all the people who've seen necalli get pushed....
Also helps that necalli is tournament relevant
Ryu's spiritual journey and Nash's revenge subplots.
GodParticle
Member
Faster v-trigger building? I would definitely like to see that. Slower gray life recovery could be really interesting. Reminds me of sfa3 guard breaking setups, just with your health bar
I see ken's face didn't get a buff =/
I see ken's face didn't get a buff =/
LincolnTunnel
Member
Those subplots are definitely there, but there's no real emotional payoff to either of them. Ryu's entire journey happens off screen, and Nash's story ends in the most hilariously anticlimactic way possible. Rashid was the only character who had a strong motivation that drove his story, was involved though out, and had a satisfying emotional payoff. Nobody is saying that none of the other characters mattere, but if you had to pick one out as the protagonist, it's totally Rashid.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
It also helps him and FANG stole the show.
Two of the best characters the series has had in decades and not enough know.
lucebuce12
Member
I think the build shown off at PSX is NOT the final build. It's not the best evidence in the world but here it is.
Here is a 20 min video of Fourwude's Akuma against various opponents
The point I've linked to, Akuma tries to jump at Zangief and Gief uses the Lariat as an AA but Akuma does a back recovery when he lands.
https://youtu.be/EFSuGM9VS7A?t=4m48s
One of the main points about Gief's buffs was that the enemy can't backrecover after the Lariat so this is making me think that maybe the PSX build isn't final. Either that or some of the information Ultradavid has given us is wrong.
Here is a 20 min video of Fourwude's Akuma against various opponents
The point I've linked to, Akuma tries to jump at Zangief and Gief uses the Lariat as an AA but Akuma does a back recovery when he lands.
https://youtu.be/EFSuGM9VS7A?t=4m48s
One of the main points about Gief's buffs was that the enemy can't backrecover after the Lariat so this is making me think that maybe the PSX build isn't final. Either that or some of the information Ultradavid has given us is wrong.
A Twisty Fluken
Member
any sign of arcade mode?
at least i can hope that mvc4 will have one.
at least i can hope that mvc4 will have one.
LPN's changelog based on personal observations: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QBjFjsdMevMnO46a1iewsR0Diav5fbwj4_6Cku1FHUE/edit
MvC is confirmed to have one.
lucebuce12
Member
Necalli's disc guidance has armor on frame 1? WHAT THE FUCK? EDIT: Unless it's specifically projectiles in which case it's fine.
CAMMY HAS AN AIR THROW HOLY SHIT.
OsirisBlack
Banned
Fuck it just bought the season 2 character pass..... don't judge me I know I'm a part of the problem.
The Claw changes sound nice. Sucks ex roll is slower, gonna make harder to get in on fireball chars but the CC changes are a welcome change. I had hoped they made his claw slice move a more reliable anti air because while non-claw cr hp is good, when it claw mode his options are not great.
oof, those Mika nerfs tho. She's like Alpha 3 bottom tier status
oof, those Mika nerfs tho. She's like Alpha 3 bottom tier status
lucebuce12
Member
No she's not lol. She's still great at what she does, she just can't get you to the corner as easily as before. When she does get you to the corner, she's still just as scary as before.
Huw_Dawson
Member
Birdie changes wooooo
St. HP being a CC means it's gonna be used far more. DF HP got nerfed to be punishable, not sure how I feel about that.
Nothing I really wanted - hopefully the patch notes are out soon.
St. HP being a CC means it's gonna be used far more. DF HP got nerfed to be punishable, not sure how I feel about that.
Nothing I really wanted - hopefully the patch notes are out soon.
He's certainly much more interesting than Tekken's Shaheen.
They did a series of figures recently that was Ryu, Chun, Rashid and Karin. The latter two are very much the "Alex"es of this game.
Shadic7700
Member
I know right design, theme, voice (Eng, Jpn), even his moves are all awesome, unique, and badass his role in the story mode and climax battle vs Fang got me hype to no end! Just wish they used his theme in that last fight :-(
LincolnTunnel
Member
Man, I know that everyone who was reporting changes from PSX probably knows what they're talking about, but how exactly do people figure out single frame changes to the frame data of moves just by eyeballing them, especially in an environment as chaotic as a trade show?
Try out an old frame trap/blockstring.
lucebuce12
Member
Some they probably hear explicitly from Capcom people. some they figure out through experimentation and some they figure out through knowledge of the moves.
Like LPN knew that Alex's Lariat is +6 oH because it now combos into st.mp and st.mp is 6-frames so it's an easy deduction.
LincolnTunnel
Member
Ok, that makes sense. I have a hard enough time with frame data as it is, so a lot of this stuff goes over my head anyway.
CommandThrower
Member
Birdie's s.Fierce causes a CC now? That sounds great, because that's a good button.
I'll wait for the patch notes to see what else he gets. I'm eager to see it all!
I'll wait for the patch notes to see what else he gets. I'm eager to see it all!
I'm not sure he needs anything on his own. Rashid is a grey meter monster that will benefit immensely from the slower grey health regen. It wouldn't surprise me that Rashid ends up being one of the more powerful in the cast after the patch even if he would remain 100% unchanged because of the changes other characters got.
lucebuce12
Member
It should be, yes.
abstract alien
Member
Am I alone in thinking that Critical Arts in general recover way too quickly at the moment? Sometimes it feels like there isn't any punishment for completely whiffing one in more cases than I'd like.
It's very much based on the character. Like Ryu's recovers pretty quickly for being a fireball. FANG's is actually punishable, but you need to know how. But most of the cast's CAs recover in a way that you can hit them with a big combo for free. Which is what it should be like, I think.
lucebuce12
Member
Yeah, I think they're fine the way they are right now. Personally don't see any issue.
Datamining suggests that Arcade Mode is indeed coming.
thelastword
Banned
Hey! Capcom definitely wants to make Tampa Bison and EMP Hiro great again.......
Zombegoast
Member
Unless he can still V-Trigger out if blocked?
lucebuce12
Member
So he's Ken.
And the nerf to the V-Trigger's recovery makes this less scary than it is right now tbh. We'll have to wait and see how this goes.
rexpro
Neo Member
i did it too... :'( sorry
I hope you enjoy Ed, Degat, Peter, New Doll and Another New Doll
Rizsparky
Member
It's his lack of invincible special put me off him, but his buffs looks really promising now.
lucebuce12
Member
She CAN change sides, there's even a video of the PSX build where she does just that.
Despite these nerfs, she's still just as scary when she gets you to the corner. Now it's simply a lot tougher to actually get them to the corner.
Human Trashcan
Banned
What would they actually need to do to make Gief competitive? This doesn't seem like enough.
sixteen-bit
Member
Wow, that's already on sale? How soon will they deliver Akuma?
lucebuce12
Member
Akuma's coming out on 20th Dec, along with the Holiday DLC, the BBoy DLC and the balance patch.
The season pass is currently up on PSN but not on Steam. oddly enough.
Good greenhand, snake eyes hinted he knew it was in but we haven't heard other sources
on top of that, taking half damage during V-skill
maybe allowing easier comboing into the initial V-trigger activation but IMHO that'd be broken, just as comboing EX SPDs like in the beta would be broken (but I've seen people ask for both)
imho he needs better frame data/hitboxes and a faster dash if they don't give him green hand, and a better working RBG
I think not. maybe for S3 they will add selectable V-trigger/V-skill/Critical Art but right now it looks like balancing
ColonialHawk
Member
I doubt it. I think changing up the current meta right now is good and with addition of new characters there will be some good variance over the next year and when Season 3 comes thats when they could hit us with like a Super patch that adds in things like selectable vtrigger and CAs
I think if they added 3 hits on his normal vskill he could handle a lot more. I personally dont want to see green hand return because its very predictable and they would have to nerf his SPD range and recovery.
KhalilSyncere
Member
Nah, unless they do it from like a full screen away (and it keeps or puts them at that distance), then generally, whether whiff or block, I find practically zero problems punishing them. A good half of the characters CA animation is more than long enough to practically set a proper plan of punitive action on them if they whiff from anywhere outside of full screen. Of course, how you punish varies per character and your resources available at the time.
Agreed, just walk yourself to the corner then leg toss or clap them to the corner you just walked yourself into lol
yeah dunno if I like GH returning. it'd need to be balanced somehow so you cannot SPD easily afterwards so it either has to push people away too much -self defeating- knock down -which brings a different set of problems- or be -1 or -2 on hit -which means getting in but blocking immediately-
but he will need _something_ against improved Dhalsim
I wish the input for the v-skill punch would be easier. maybe like Akuma's. Many times I've released the button only to have nothing come out, and it'd help if you could punch without waiting the requisite time so you could punish more things; Ryu and Akuma seem to get a much better deal out of their parries -tho admittedly Ryu's is harder to land- or maybe just a shorter time until the punch comes out if doing it on command is too much