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Street Fighter V Systems Trailer and hands-on impressions
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This game is so damn pretty, almost a year away from release and it already puts all the other new fighters to shame (aside from Xrd).
Shadow_Lord
Member
So after all this footage, which is prettier in your opinion? MKX, GGXrd, or SFV?
Master Thespian
Member
SFV by a large margin.
Rendering (?)
+
Animation
I know Xrd's lack of animation frames was a stylistic choice but it doesn't look good, IMO.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Holy shit at that Dailymotion video.
Dynamic music for the rounds like 3rd Strike, super fast and intense pace, supers that look terrific...
Day one.
How amazing would be if Sean takes Ken's roster spot with his pseudo-shoto moveset
HOLY $@(!!!!
This looks so incredible!
This game is going to be massive
Its SFV by a mile. A fighting game hasn't made my jaw drop since VF4. This is some amazing stuff
Rice-Eater
Member
Are you talking about normals and jumping? Yeah that does look almost identical, but I have absolutely no problem with that. I don't want active frames and recovery to be heavily reduced. I don't want character short hopping their way in. You jump then I better get a decent amount of time to anti-air you. The pace is definitely faster than SF4, but SFV along with SF games in general should always be slower paced than most other fighters IMO. That slower space controlling style is what I love about SF. No BS characters like Viper or Fuerte and we're good to go.
Yep.
SFV. Xrd is really impressive for what it does, but I 'm not that much into sprites anymore. MKX looks good in stills but its animations are awful.
Bruno_Arrais85
Member
XRD Revelator with the new graphic upgrade is a little better. But both are gourgeous imo
GodParticle
Member
That dailymotion vid was fantastic. Finally, people who can actually play in a demo. March is so far away =/
I just noticed the stun bar is back. Love that
I just noticed the stun bar is back. Love that
Bruno_Arrais85
Member
I still think that the huge damage output in this build is intentional just for E3 (so everybody in line can play and finish the match quickly).
Shadow_Lord
Member
SFV and Tekken 7 for me.
So beautiful.
So much detail.
Seems pretty Unanimous lol
OsirisBlack
Banned
SFV
Off topic you can already pre order SFV I was going to at gamestop today but you don't get a beta code for doing so. So I preordered it any way and am waiting to see if they release an edition with a fight stick and will redo it when the beta codes become available.
Sanctuary
Member
How doesn't it have the speed and recovery of a charge motion projectile? How often can Guile actually overpower Ryu in a projectile fight? It's almost always a stalemate. The difference is one has a shorter startup with a longer recovery, while the other has a longer startup with a shorter recovery. In the Nash vs Ryu video it looks the same as most any Guile vs Sagat or Ryu fight.
In USF4 Guile's Sonic Boom has a 10 frame startup (not counting the actual charge time) and 24 recovery.
Ryu has a 13 frame startup and a 32 recovery with no charge time.
You might be right about the V-trigger having an effect, but look at the Nash vs Ryu video again at the 3:32 mark. That's classic charge motion gameplay. While they might have changed the projectile motion, it doesn't appear that they changed the properties of the projectile itself.
KI by a large margin. Also the music helps it to stand way above the others. That last point is why i still don't give a totally want to SFV, probalbly when i see more of it, and more characters that i like.
I'll put MKX in second, specially since is way above the last one. Couldn't care about GG less tho'.
I put Street Fighter V above all. The art style, detail and animation has surpassed the other fighters.
Etrian Oddity
Member
Killer Instinct definitely has a god-tier OST on the level of Third Strike. Capcom gonna have to hustle on the audio front, SF4 was not bad but it was not terrific either.
A Compilation of Street Fighter 5 Gameplay + Critical Arts (Special)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74-IBIVCP8E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74-IBIVCP8E
Yep. Maybe the best I've ever heard.
It's not about being able to do it at all, it's about getting the most out of it. Lets say low forward is 60 damage and Critical art is 350. So Ryu does that, he gets 410. But if he does 3 low shorts into Critical Art(and each low short is 20 damage) then he does 301 damage if scaling is the same as it is in SF4. That's over 100 less damage because I don't have the reactions.
Sure I can hit links and shit, but I don't have good reactions. I still struggle mightily to DP my opponents when I'm in footsie range and they randomly jump on me. I actually use to practice Ryu's low forward Super in SF4 just to see if I could do it. I never could, and I mean I wasn't close at all
Are you sure it's not your anticipation? Like how Daigo got his jump ins from Infiltration and Bonchan when spamming his projectiles back then and eating huge chunk of damage, because of his pride in projectile timings thus disregarding jumps. It's partially a mental preparedness thing when trying to anti-air.
Also I don't think people do a lot of 1-hit confirms like you are thinking, obviously there are certain tricks like Daigos infamous cr.HP into super dhalsim from full screen or Fei Longs cr.mk into super. I hope you are buffering your super when trying to do it though
.Considering there are no Ultras in SFV I'll assume that critical arts are not as slow as Ultras and more of an equivalent to Supers in SFIV. So it would be interesting to see if you can V-Trigger cancel off a cr.mk hit confirm into CA.
EDIT: Also when trying to do a EX/Hadouken into FADC U2. Try to think of the part until after FADC as a single motion and then returning to neutral into U2.
Ftfy. Usually Ryu edges it out against Guile when going into projectile war at full screen. Even if Guile uses the input buffer to charge a little bit faster. But the moment Guile can reach Ryu with his F.HP, Ryu will be the one who loses due to Guiles fast recovery and F.HP utility.
Rice-Eater
Member
OK so where exactly are we suppose to preorder this to get into the beta? I don't want to waste my time pre ordering it at Gamestop only to find out that you can only get it through the PS Store. Have they ever specified where to go for this?
Yeah I know the trick, throw out your normal and buffer the Super. If you see it hit, then press the button to make your super come out. I've known that for a long time now, being able to confirm it reliably is my problem. It also doesn't help that I'm terrible at doing the double QCF motion really fast. I actually have to concentrate a little to do that. I also never do jumping HK/HP into Ultra because I screw it up too much, I just do raw Ultra.
As for the Critical Arts, they basically are a replacement for Supers. You can cancel into them from normals and it will combo. So the start up should be pretty fast.
Also I don't think people do a lot of 1-hit confirms like you are thinking, obviously there are certain tricks like Daigos infamous cr.HP into super dhalsim from full screen or Fei Longs cr.mk into super. I hope you are buffering your super when trying to do it though
Considering there are no Ultras in SFV I'll assume that critical arts are not as slow as Ultras and more of an equivalent to Supers in SFIV. So it would be interesting to see if you can V-Trigger cancel off a cr.mk hit confirm into CA.
Yeah I know the trick, throw out your normal and buffer the Super. If you see it hit, then press the button to make your super come out. I've known that for a long time now, being able to confirm it reliably is my problem. It also doesn't help that I'm terrible at doing the double QCF motion really fast. I actually have to concentrate a little to do that. I also never do jumping HK/HP into Ultra because I screw it up too much, I just do raw Ultra.
As for the Critical Arts, they basically are a replacement for Supers. You can cancel into them from normals and it will combo. So the start up should be pretty fast.
Sanctuary
Member
Is the SF4 frame data not updated?
http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Ultra_Street_Fighter_IV/Ryu
Not that it really matters, since you can observe what I was talking about in training mode anyway. You're right about standing fierce punch range, but I'm not sure why a Ryu would be casting fireballs at that range anyway unless Guile was walking forward.
I don't really see what the difference is between a chain combo and a target combo. The VS games were heavily reliant on chaining pretty much any normal into another, but target combos always seemed functionally the same to me as far as how quickly you had to press a button, but also how easy they were to do compared to a stricter link. They already had predetermined normals you had to hit and you couldn't cancel into specials/supers with many of them, but they still seemed pretty similar.
Now, with the speed increase. In the early footage though it looked really "off" to me. The attack animations seemed to take forever and the startup/active frames seemed to last an eternity.
Naked Lunch
Member
The gameplay looks really nice in this game but the character design is butt. Chunky Street Fighter characters have got to go. SF3 got it right and they abandoned that style.
Ryu's Vskill allows him to. None of the other characters so far.
Sanctuary
Member
So far only Ryu has a parry, but Alpha Counters are back.
I was looking using the FA-Tool app. So no idea which one is right.
People can misjudge distances or try to challenge Guile's readiness to boom to prevent him from walking forward.
abstract alien
Member
The timing on chains is usually extremely loose compared to targets, aren't they?
Kerotan Frog
Member
....Anddddd
Bought. Game looks too good to pass up.
Bought. Game looks too good to pass up.
Why does Bison has 3 bars of V Trigger while everybody else has 2?
Sanctuary
Member
Eh, maybe slightly more, but they are both still quite "brain dead" in comparison to links.
Teknopathetic
Member
"Why does Bison has 3 bars of V Trigger while everybody else has 2?"
Longer duration.
Longer duration.
MasterCheeze
Member
Maybe to help balance him out? He seems pretty slow without it since he gets that cool teleport dash in V-Trigger, and his ex moves seem kinda limited in utility in this game. I think Chun-li had three bars in previous builds too, so things might change again.
Also maybe no Reversal attack. So he might have one more bar than the others to V-Reversal.
Looks like some German magazine accidentally leaked the two characters to be revealed at E3
It's
It's
Cammy and Birdie
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Sanctuary
Member
Cammy and Birdie? Err, did you edit the spoiler in? Anyway, if Birdie is in, that's a good choice for a grappler. Although I'm sure a lot of people still want Alex in.
why
yooo!
Remapped88
Member
I'm sorry bro but SF characters are always exaggerated/chunky yo. SF3 sprites especially If you compare SF3 Ryu to any Ryu, whether it's SFIV Ryu or SFV, he is bigger in SF3 in a side to side comparison. SF characters have always have exaggerated body parts whether it's the Alpha series through SFV. The only sprites where they look "regular" is the sprites from the Capcom Vs SNK series.
Fuck, I lost my prediction
Was thinking it would be Eagle instead of Birdie. Birdie though, never been a fan.
abstract alien
Member
Ah, thought you were referring to links when you days target. I honestly don't know the difference between a chain and a target combo.
Teknopathetic
Member
Was hoping Eagle, but will settle for Birdie.