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[Chavelo]

Because when Americans do fighting game netcode, it end up worse than when Japanese do it.

First and only "well-known" American FG = MK9
"it ended up worse than when Japanese do it."

Japanese have released multiple popular games with shitty netcode
"it ended up worse than when Japanese do it."

...

"it ended up worse than when Japanese do it."

:lol

 

[Ploid 3.0]

First and only "well-known" American FG = MK9
"it ended up worse than when Japanese do it."

Japanese have released multiple popular games with shitty netcode
"it ended up worse than when Japanese do it."

...

"it ended up worse than when Japanese do it."

:lol

Japan is just better at games dude. (sarcasm)

 

[MThanded]

I have a copy of this game for both consoles now... and pretty much exclusively play online...

 

[abstract alien]

Dev blog revelations might actually be a legit reason to pass on this and wait for another disk release if you play online a lot. I know they said we won't get one, but eh...its capcom.

 

[LakeEarth]

That's because they turned him into Terry Bogard.

Paul feels like a mis-mash of a bunch of Street Fighter characters
- Ryu links
- Yun's lunch punches
- Yang roll under fireball move
- Dudley back swing blow
- Oni's jump up overhead attack
- Yun's upkicks
- Dan fierce and roundhouse normals... eww

 

[Sixfortyfive]

I use sounds as cues in all my fighting games. This is pretty much the worst news ever.

Consider it practice for irl tournaments.

I need to get me one of those headset/amp things that Champ/Fubar were using. Tired of getting blown up by Hidden Missiles when they're actually audibly hidden, lol.

 

[Slamtastic]

The other example being GGPO, which 3SOE showed can be plenty bad too.

But then again, SFxT has a PC release.

 

[Gr1mLock]

I use sounds as cues in all my fighting games. This is pretty much the worst news ever.



http://www.eventhubs.com/guides/2012/mar/02/street-fighter-x-tekken-mechanics-and-gameplay/

thanks

 

[QisTopTier]

I use sound to know when people call their assist in UMVC3 so I can punish or get away. I always wished She Hulk was a bit more subtle with her assist call. It's so loud and obvious.

Why do you think I get hit by random shit in marvel

 

[Hitokage]

Chun-Li does get additional frame advantage for continuing legs, but not much, after additional HK I can only get a 4f cr. jab in.

Consider it practice for irl tournaments.

I need to get me one of those headset/amp things that Champ/Fubar were using. Tired of getting blown up by Hidden Missiles when they're actually audibly hidden, lol.

Though I have to wonder, since Champ's box goes into the optical port of the ps3, what happens when you have two people who want to do it?

 

[Hellix]

All of this negative information about the game seems to be turning me off.

 

[Sixfortyfive]

The other example being GGPO, which 3SOE showed can be plenty bad too.

But then again, SFxT has a PC release.

3SO is not a fair representation of GGPO.

Horrible matchmaking, and you can't adjust the delay settings without backing out to the main menu, making it a pain in the ass to figure out how to optimize it per connection since optimal settings really do vary a lot depending on ping. And I really wouldn't be surprised if console warriors were terrible with configuring their routers correctly on average, which can fuck things up no matter how good the netcode actually is.

Though I have to wonder, since Champ's box goes into the optical port of the ps3, what happens when you have two people who want to do it?

Good question, but it's probably nothing that a powered splitter couldn't solve.

Also, you were in the Tetris shirt on Saturday, right? Why the heck didn't you come up and say something when you were watching my stream matches. Didn't notice you were standing there until I reviewed the archive, lol.

 

[MThanded]

My ps3 version is unopened. I might go ahead and send that back to newegg.

 

[Ploid 3.0]

My ps3 version is unopened. I might go ahead and send that back to newegg.

If they ever fix it, use the money to buy the extra characters for xbox version. If a new version is announced get that one if you still like the game.

 

[ihearthawthats]

Though I have to wonder, since Champ's box goes into the optical port of the ps3, what happens when you have two people who want to do it?

not sure what kind of headphone amp he has, but many come with multiple outputs.

 

[Hitokage]

Also, you were in the Tetris shirt on Saturday, right? Why the heck didn't you come up and say something when you were watching my stream matches. Didn't notice you were standing there until I reviewed the archive, lol.

Uh... Sorry, I didn't notice at the time either.

It must have been for Marvel and even though I had just taken a nap I was still tired as hell then.

 

[MrDaravon]

Super glad I rented this now. I'll give online a couple more shots but so far every match I've ever had in Ranked is super laggy, and Endless mode seems to be better but the types of matches I get are all over the place. Unless I start getting way smoother matches the thing is going back. Super disappointing, I can't believe the game shipped like this.

 

[Lost Fragment]

So is there anyone that doesn't have sound issues for basically every online match they play, or is this issue not as widespread as it seems? 'cause it seems like this is affecting just about everyone.

 

[Kai Dracon]

3SO is not a fair representation of GGPO.

Horrible matchmaking, and you can't adjust the delay settings without backing out to the main menu, making it a pain in the ass to figure out how to optimize it per connection since optimal settings really do vary a lot depending on ping. And I really wouldn't be surprised if console warriors were terrible with configuring their routers correctly on average, which can fuck things up no matter how good the netcode actually is.

Aside from the ranked region filtering / delay settings awkwardness in 3SO, that is why I got sad whenever everyone shat on the netcode. We have a well configured router here, clean as a whistle. Whenever I'd play against someone who I knew, and knew they also had their shit set up correctly, it was beautiful. Practically flawless most of the time.

But playing randoms was catastrophic. Perhaps 3SO's implementation had some under the hood settings that were more vulnerable to bad NAT and packet loss, compared to BlazeBlue. But yes, randoms gave the impression that their net connection was spitting packets out left and right and laughing at the idea of an open pipe.

As for netcode/sound glitches in this game, I honestly can't see how it won't get patched. The sound stuff is as broken as characters flickering in and out during gameplay.

 

[kewlmyc]

If they do announce a new one, I'll most likely be done with Capcom's fighting games. Unless they have some sort of trade in deal at Gamestop where I can trade in the old disk and get the new game for $15 or something.

 

[Knux-Future]

That fucking sucks.

The actual game part is great...everything else is ass


Good job Cacpcom.

 

[Razor210]

*picks Raven*
*does self teleport mixups*
IT'S MAHVEL BAYBEE

 

[GhostRidah]

http://www.twitch.tv/arcadeufo

Justin Wong, Alex Valle, TS NerdJosh, BT Dieminion, Dr Sub Zero, and Rip there

 

[GorillaJu]

I've had no sound issues (PS3) but I'm in Japan, so perhaps the networking infrastructure here is saving me from these issues. Most matches feel like arcade versus battles. It's the best online I've ever played in a fighting game.

 

[Slamtastic]

I've had no sound issues (PS3) but I'm in Japan, so perhaps the networking infrastructure here is saving me from these issues. Most matches feel like arcade versus battles. It's the best online I've ever played in a fighting game.

As expected.

My kingdom for widespread fiOS in America.

 

[Xevren]

*picks Raven*
*does self teleport mixups*
IT'S MAHVEL BAYBEE

Can't believe he can cancel ground shurikens with teleports. So awesome.

 

[jett]

3rd Strike Online works pretty well these days. Quick matchmaking on ranked matches, and it's almost always very playable.

 

[Brandon F]

A shame, SSIV runs like a dream for me online. Actually amazed in the dozens of matches I played last week. Hopefully things get worked out.

I'm just as pissed at the lack of Gallery mode though. Pretty much neutered my interest in checking out the endings. At least in the game itself and not on youtube. :/

 

[SupaNaab]

Consider it practice for irl tournaments.

I can say from experience, you should always play with headphones or the volume off. At my very first tournament ever, my first match in person against a complete stranger ever was on stream. There was a large crowd behind me and I heard every single word they said about how I or my opponent played. Every single whiff was followed by ramblings and every single punish was followed by louder ramblings. The worst part was hearing the commentators who sit behind the screens. The crowd is like one giant hive mind, but the commentators can be heard outlining and critiquing every possible movement in much finer detail (especially hearing them describe your own state of mind can be distracting). Almost all of the sounds you hear from the game are delayed or inaudible (because the crowd experience the gameplay with a delay due to non-gaming projectors and their speakers are considerably louder than the stream stations). The remainder of my matches were played at side stations where you actually could hear the game though. Since this experience I always wear headphones when I play. I was too interested in taking in the experience on stream than actually being focused on my game.

 

[Axelstream]

With the FCC, What I try to do is do a standing attack, Press 3K, hold back down cause it will cancel the flicker stance by itself then try to link the second attack.

So like S.HP FCC C.MP etc

With the Forward MP, LP, just hold back down and it should FCC by itself

Edit: Fuck everything I said and just check out this thread : How to Flicker Cancel

Whoa, works like a charm! Much thanks sir o/

 

[LakeEarth]

3rd Strike Online works pretty well these days. Quick matchmaking on ranked matches, and it's almost always very playable.

I am in total agreement. The patch in ~December worked wonders.

 

[Novid]

Pretty fucking ridiculous that the game made it out with that sound issue intact. Even more ridiculous is that they sent it out apparently without a plan in place to fix it. The lack of foresight on display is blowing my mind.

And that's just that issue. The "pay to win" DLC strategy they have going on is pretty ridiculous in its own right.

Is this possibly more of an issue here in America where we have shitty internet? Do they simply not understand how much worse our internet is than Japan's?

thats the biggest oversight in the history of media right now. its isnt just Capcom that dont get how bad our connections are (and no possible way to fix it because the land mass is just too damn large which means the telacoms have become too large for their own good) its the rest of Hollywood, NetFlix, Redbox, Crunchyroll, Hulu to some level that dont get it as well.

 

[NoizyChild]

3rd Strike Online works pretty well these days. Quick matchmaking on ranked matches, and it's almost always very playable.

Because there's hardly anyone playing it these days.

 

[devastatorprime]

All costumes
http://shoryuken.com/2012/03/08/street-fighter-x-tekken-complete-costume-gallery/

I cant even be mad about about them being on disc, having to pay, having to wait etc. A lot of these alts are just too awesome for me not to have. Now I want to play Ibuki just cause of her 2nd alt.

 

[MThanded]

Besides the sound the few online matches I played before I left town were perfect.

 

[jett]

Because there's hardly anyone playing it these days.

That doesn't make any sense with what I just said. I find people every time I connect.

 

[LakeEarth]

Because there's hardly anyone playing it these days.

There's plenty of people playing it.

And I just lost due to rollback for the first time. It showed me him jumping for half a sec, but he didn't.

 

[Rickenslacker]

All costumes
http://shoryuken.com/2012/03/08/street-fighter-x-tekken-complete-costume-gallery/

I cant even be mad about about them being on disc, having to pay, having to wait etc. A lot of these alts are just too awesome for me not to have. Now I want to play Ibuki just cause of her 2nd alt.

That Terminator version of Abel with his skin all torn up and his Seth clone interior being revealed is nice.

That Heihachi costume for Akuma... so bad...

Dunno why they changed Bryan's hair for his Urien outfit, his regular hair looks more appropriate for it.

 

[CountAntonius]

I've had no sound issues (PS3) but I'm in Japan, so perhaps the networking infrastructure here is saving me from these issues. Most matches feel like arcade versus battles. It's the best online I've ever played in a fighting game.

This always seems to be the damn issue. Why can't Japanese developers realize that the rest of the damn world doesn't have their internet. How the hell this stuff isn't tested in north America way before release is baffling.

All costumes
http://shoryuken.com/2012/03/08/street-fighter-x-tekken-complete-costume-gallery/

I cant even be mad about about them being on disc, having to pay, having to wait etc. A lot of these alts are just too awesome for me not to have. Now I want to play Ibuki just cause of her 2nd alt.

What would be the easiest way of saving all these files to my computer? Would love a zip files with them all to drool over until we have access.

 

[zulfate]

hola! so i am an old fighting game fan but i havent kept up with all the new stuff, i now am more of a pc player so i see that this game is coming out for pc what would be a good fighting stick for pc use? also is this game noob friendly?

 

[ThatCrazyGuy]

Chun-Li does get additional frame advantage for continuing legs, but not much, after additional HK I can only get a 4f cr. jab in.

Though I have to wonder, since Champ's box goes into the optical port of the ps3, what happens when you have two people who want to do it?

Do you know what Champ uses by chance? When he plugs it in the optical, the PS3 is still sending the audo to the TV? So it is splitting the audio for his headphones?

 

[Novid]

This always seems to be the damn issue. Why can't Japanese developers realize that the rest of the damn world doesn't have their internet. How the hell this stuff isn't tested in north America way before release is baffling.

State of IT today folks. The talent is there but the will is so weak.

 

[LProtag]

Man, I really hope they can do something about the sound. There's basically no one for me to play local with around here.

 

[GorillaJu]

State of IT today folks. The talent is there but the will is so weak.

I don't know a thing about how the networking code works but I do buy their explanation, at least to a point.

I've never played MK9 but is it smoother than SFxT in 4-player mode?

 

[Chavelo]

I don't know a thing about how the networking code works but I do buy their explanation, at least to a point.

I've never played MK9 but is it smoother than SFxT in 4-player mode?

Pretty sure that in Japan it would be. :3

 

[Solune]

Why do you think I get hit by random shit in marvel

Well people do say it's a "random" game.

 

[GhostRidah]

All costumes
http://shoryuken.com/2012/03/08/street-fighter-x-tekken-complete-costume-gallery/

I cant even be mad about about them being on disc, having to pay, having to wait etc. A lot of these alts are just too awesome for me not to have. Now I want to play Ibuki just cause of her 2nd alt.

So many good ones, I am going to be buying a lot of them lol

 

[DarkoMaledictus]

Really weird they released the game with music cutting during online play... this is halfassed!

 

[Kai Dracon]

Question: what is this I hear about the Japanese edition of the game coming with the western pre-order gems as standard?

Or is that in a Japanese special edition?

Just struck me as funny, if the so-called "better" gems are actually considered standard content there...

 

[Novid]

I don't know a thing about how the networking code works but I do buy their explanation, at least to a point.

I've never played MK9 but is it smoother than SFxT in 4-player mode?

In SSF4 its a hard set - meaning that lag plays a factor. in the early days i Played with Japanese players on ranked and had very small lag but the connection was too long for it to be playable.

In this game like GGPO (I call this game and 3SO GGPO Lite because if it was real GGPO there issues would have been fixed) Lag doesnt play a factor - there arbrtation and handshaking - which means it depends how good your speed and ping is. if both are good you got a good connection.

The Japanese have no sound issues because of there fiberlines. and since they keep testing under Japanese fiberlines there is no telling how bad the connection would be in the US side.

If somebody actually used GGPO Lite for the US side they would have known the first thing is that you must cut the bitrate down for music for thats the first one to be hurt. the second is the frames of the game. it got to go down to 5 frames or more.