I like his limbs alot. He has almost all options to deal with some of the shenanigans in this game I feel. I am not sure but his medium kicks chain is a 50/50 mix-up as u can follow withan overhead apparently or a low.
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I like his limbs alot. He has almost all options to deal with some of the shenanigans in this game I feel. I am not sure but his medium kicks chain is a 50/50 mix-up as u can follow withan overhead apparently or a low.
I did not say cross rush. I said cancels. My point is, I seem to be able to spend a single meter for a cancel tag in, and I can pretty much get the same damage from my character without tagging in.
Teknopathetic
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"I did not say cross rush. I said cancels."
The crux of the post is that less scaling would be bad, universally.
"I did not say cross rush. I said cancels. My point is, I seem to be able to spend a single meter for a cancel tag in, and I can pretty much get the same damage from my character without tagging in."
That depends on the character/team composition. Rolento, for example, is pretty much capped at ~250 damage solo. Spending a bar to bring in Hugo can pump that up to 400, which is a significant increase.
The crux of the post is that less scaling would be bad, universally.
"I did not say cross rush. I said cancels. My point is, I seem to be able to spend a single meter for a cancel tag in, and I can pretty much get the same damage from my character without tagging in."
That depends on the character/team composition. Rolento, for example, is pretty much capped at ~250 damage solo. Spending a bar to bring in Hugo can pump that up to 400, which is a significant increase.
I agree. I think you should gain an extra 10-20% damage on cross cancel. That would make some characters even more OP though. Ideally they could add this extra boost only to low tier characters in an eventual patch, or make balances like this with gems that are only equippable by certain characters, but they won't patch the game in a way that is sane whenever the patch comes out.
Tekno how come you never use the forum quote function?
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Can you guys throw out a bit of your experiences with him? How has it been nailing the fierce flicker fierce? Easy to pressure with? I picked him up and while his damage potential is insane he seems to have barely anything safe to poke with (minus forward->mp->lp or lp>mp). Also can't help but compare his ducking to Dudley's and it's not as effective. Seeing Marn play him yesterday solidified what I thought, a great tag-in char but no good defense options.
narcosis219
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1 bar 400-500 damage combos seem about right. If there were any less scaling, this game would almost be as bad as marvel in terms of touch-of-death-ness
CountBlack
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Lost to someone using Mike Ross' team.
They hit so damn hard
Out of 15 matches I had in endless, there was either a ken or ryu on each team as anchor lol
They hit so damn hard
Out of 15 matches I had in endless, there was either a ken or ryu on each team as anchor lol
Cross cancels are kind of pointless for a lot of the cast/teams other than a safe(r) way to tag a dying character out.
QisTopTier
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I figure this is the main use for them.
I've been using Hwoarang since day 1. I don't think he's that good. He has an advantage over other Tekken characters with the fact that he has a slightly more reliable antiair (sky rocket) but I'm gettin PUMELLED online because the range on his pokes are garbage and I can almost never punish a lot of unsafe things from people. Once I'm within range I can do some pretty good mixups and damage potential... but unless I'm in that strict range... I just have to take so many risks.
Sayah's Nina just rolled me up like 7 games straight followed by 1 win by me and then another 8 games non stop... (Although I admit I suck really bad at this game so far, so my opinion isn't necessary very reputable)
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Only official one I know of is here: http://www.capcom.co.jp/sfxtk/info.html (first set of links)
You were kicking my ass in the earlier matches too.
Your Juri is quite amazing. But I think she could be paired with someone other than Hwoarang. Not sure who, though.
And I'm still quite horrible at this game compared to how I've seen others play.
Nina is definitely a very versatile character despite her low health. I'm just really missing her bad habit move and her beautiful bitch slap from Tekken. Those are her signature moves.....definitely should have been translated into this game. And only Yoshimitsu gets to have the evil mist.
You were kicking my ass in the earlier matches too.
Your Juri is quite amazing. But I think she could be paired with someone other than Hwoarang. Not sure who, though.
And I'm still quite horrible at this game compared to how I've seen others play.
Nina is definitely a very versatile character despite her low health. I'm just really missing her bad habit move and her beautiful bitch slap from Tekken. Those are her signature moves.....definitely should have been translated into this game. And only Yoshimitsu gets to have the evil mist.
On the topic of signature moves, I'm a lot sadder Nina never got her flapping butterfly from Tekken... it would have been really interesting to see how that would have panned out in this game. But still... nothing disappoints me more than the fact that there is no vampire knee for Raven!! Explain yourself Capcom!!!
Juri just has a beastly super... but I still haven't gotten her jump cancels from her normals like I saw other people do on the streams. I just chose Hwoarang since he was my secondary in Tekken after Armor King carrying that character loyalty... and I felt the only logical partner for Him would be Juri. I'm enjoying the synergy so far. But yeah, I guess I'll try Julia next (my tertiary character in Tekken)... but she does not look beginner friendly at all.
inanutshell
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With how damage scaling works in the game I'm pretty sure that's the case with all the characters in the game.
I don't think it's damage scaling alone, because there are plenty of SFIV combos that use lots of meter that are useful, I think it's more how juggling works combined with damage scaling.
So what are the up close Hwoarang mixups I need to learn/watch out for? He has that lk>mk>lk that goes low-high-mid, but what else? I played some GAF'er who kept spamming the shit and I kept losing cause I didn't know what was going on.
Flapping butterfly loop would have been interesting for this game. And yeah, I was practicing with Raven today and the lack of the vampire knee is upsetting. That's like not giving Nina her blonde bomb or Kazuya/Heihachi their EWGF.
Not sure about Julia but your Abel was really good in the one match you used him so maybe try him.
And I still don't have a definitive second character. I'm just switching between Ogre, Hwoarang, and Xiaoyu for now.
"God's Beard!"
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You could use the second bar to get a hard knockdown, though.
Roll makes hard knockdowns seem less important in this game.
"God's Beard!"
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You can't roll after being hit by an ex move...
Whoops, I should get the guide.
For any beginners like myself having problem doing supers within combos, I would recommend changing medium punch (triangle) to light kick (X) and light kick to medium punch through the button configuration. Much better positioning for doing supers. Although, a new setup like this may feel awkward for some time until you get used to it.
CountBlack
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I've been using him and Steve since I got the game. He can dish a lot of damage and his Chainsaw kick (s.Mp, s.lp) catches so many people its crazy.
Also what I found out is that you can use his heavy air raid to move full screen very fast. I wish I knew it against the dhalsim I lost to the other day..
kingofthedead45
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Anyone up for some scruby matches on xbl? gamertag=kingofthedead45
crimzonflame
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How is Steve?
CountBlack
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Steve's damage output is crazy, but his defense is horrible. He literally has nothing on wakeup. Since all of his standing Kick buttons are weaves/spin he feels really complicated to play but every hit confirm is about 400 damage without a super
Nose Master
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Sarcasm? Most DPs are kinda ass in SFxT. But uh, quit jumpin so much, and or safe jump.
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shinshoryuken
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that was me...
all you had to do was block high...HAHA, he doesn't really have much mix up potentials after that. He's pokes sucks and have no range.
I realize once people caught on with the hwaorang mix up he kinda suck..
our ryu vs ryu match is hilariously lame! cr.mk -> ex donkey kick over and over LOL.
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Tizoc
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Will add those usernames later tonight guys ;3
...and robut I didn't recognize you without your samborero brah!
Well Ryu and Ken are pretty much beginner friendly. If you can pull off Zangief's Spinning Pile Driver (tip, just do a 270 motion, it'll still count) you can grab fools from a short distance away ;P
Really though, go into Trial mode and practice doing the various stuff the mode requests of you. Keep in mind that you can include whatever extra attacks to a Trial combo, so long as you do what that Trial combo requires.
For example, Ken's Trial 13 is something like this-
Crouching Light Punch-->Crouching Light Kick-->Hard Punch Shoryuken
You can also performe it as
Crouching Light Punch-->Crouching Light Kick-->EX Tornado Kick-->Hard Punch Shoryuken
This one might take some pratice to get the SRK to come out right, but it also gives you an idea of what you can do after his EX Tornado Kick.
...and robut I didn't recognize you without your samborero brah!
Can someone recommend me some beginner friendly fighters? I suck at this game and I'm tired of being a practice dummy for my friends
Well Ryu and Ken are pretty much beginner friendly. If you can pull off Zangief's Spinning Pile Driver (tip, just do a 270 motion, it'll still count) you can grab fools from a short distance away ;P
Really though, go into Trial mode and practice doing the various stuff the mode requests of you. Keep in mind that you can include whatever extra attacks to a Trial combo, so long as you do what that Trial combo requires.
For example, Ken's Trial 13 is something like this-
Crouching Light Punch-->Crouching Light Kick-->Hard Punch Shoryuken
You can also performe it as
Crouching Light Punch-->Crouching Light Kick-->EX Tornado Kick-->Hard Punch Shoryuken
This one might take some pratice to get the SRK to come out right, but it also gives you an idea of what you can do after his EX Tornado Kick.
kingofthedead45
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Its T for Time out, not T for Timedog!
Edit: GG's man, thanks I needed le practice! sorry if there was any lag for you.
Edit: GG's man, thanks I needed le practice!
sorry if there was any lag for you.QisTopTier
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do everyones trials and use who you enjoy
straight up picking an easier character doesnt really pay off in the long run. At least that's the way I view it. But that's just cause I come from GG
straight up picking an easier character doesnt really pay off in the long run. At least that's the way I view it. But that's just cause I come from GG