You're right, tho. I had a somewhat succesfull life as a Sakura online warrior without doing half the stuff Chris G do. Just by forcing people to guess on 50/50s. Combos help, more damage = less times you have to get in, but if you can get in a lot, you negate that.
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You're right, tho. I had a somewhat succesfull life as a Sakura online warrior without doing half the stuff Chris G do. Just by forcing people to guess on 50/50s. Combos help, more damage = less times you have to get in, but if you can get in a lot, you negate that.
ThatCrazyGuy
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I called my local Kmart all excited. He tells me no, we don't have that. He then says, they don't even have UMVC3, just a lot of Skyrims and COD's/Battefields 3's lol.
NoizyChild
Member
Go check anyway. My Kmart told me that they didn't have TvC. I walk into the store on a great big Friday before it was released, and there it was, sitting in the display case.
This, I was able to get SSF 4 early this way. Hopefully they'll have SF x Tekken here in a day or two. If not, no biggie.
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
Ahh. Well, I'll just drive to KMart tomorrow to check it out then.
CountBlack
Member
For anyone that does get it early on xbox, won't you get banned for playing it online early?
And who do you guys think will be the strongest characters? It seems like already from what we've seen a lot of Tekken characters will have advantage over some characters because of their wave-dashing.
I don't think there will be any broken characters but there will be some higher end characters like always, I think
Heihachi
Hwoarang
Kazuya
Hugo
Raven
Ken
Vega
Rolento
The amount of overheads that the Tekken characters have is crazy..I can't block that shit
And who do you guys think will be the strongest characters? It seems like already from what we've seen a lot of Tekken characters will have advantage over some characters because of their wave-dashing.
I don't think there will be any broken characters but there will be some higher end characters like always, I think
Heihachi
Hwoarang
Kazuya
Hugo
Raven
Ken
Vega
Rolento
The amount of overheads that the Tekken characters have is crazy..I can't block that shit
notworksafe
Member
Banned for playing a purchased, legit copy of a game?
CountBlack
Member
For playing it a couple days before release? I thought thats what they did to people who got Cod early and such
Scare tactics for the most part. Besides I only hear about threats of banning when it comes to actual MS releases like Halo, etc and major games like Gears.
Still stupid.
notworksafe
Member
Seriously? That's fucked up.
Heart of Black
Member
I'll be at GDC with my copy sitting at my job here in New York all week. Can't wait to play the retail and get my Hugo/King/Marduk/Zangief on.
If you bought it legit you're fine.
CountBlack
Member
I know they usually restart the leaderboards the day of release also.
I remember when Vanilla MVC3 came out and my friend in NY got it on the Friday before release. He got up to number 3 in the world before release on the leaderboards, but nothing did happen to him for it
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
Most devs will clear the leaderboards on release day. The places I worked, nobody really cared if people had legit copies a little early and playing. Most likely they were the hardcore fans anyways, so no need to get on them.
NoizyChild
Member
You only get banned if you're playing with a modded Xbox.
No matter what game it is, if you have a legit copy, you're fine.
No matter what game it is, if you have a legit copy, you're fine.
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I hate fighitng people without strategy myself (can't run a mind game on the mindless...), but I guess with SFIV series (more than any other fighter, really), I can understand how not getting to do certain things makes the game just... not fun. It's got the graphic sizzle with Ultras and stuff, but once you get past that, if you can't reach a certain execution level, the game loses a lot.
To go off the "none of that stuff si fun for a new player" stuff I said in what you quoted, I think SFxT will be fun in that reguard, really. Not that the new player will know it is they're DOING, but getting a whole crazy combo from a crouch forward will make footsies more "accessibly fun". Rolling on wakeup will at least make falling for an oki trap seem more "well, guess I did the wrong thing!" rather than SFIV's "How'd I get thrown?!? Why'd that DP hit me?!?" stuff, lol. More options are always good, and it makes it feel more like it's under your own control.
Anyway though, 2 player co-op will give everyone a chance to use Scorpion of Saturday Night Slam Master's losing line, "My ally FAILED ME!"; It'll be nice to team up with people who can do the things you can't do as well (and vice-versa), and hopefully learn by osmosis, haha. Maybe everyone will level-up more (or get lazy and dependant...) since the "fun" isn't just based on oneself anymore.
It'd be nice to see that mode get tourney-accepted. Was quite enjoyable on C.Assault, should be fun to play, and should be much more fun that watching cards get it on in marvel lobbies XD
CountAntonius
Member
It will be fun to play online with my buddies and and Pandora myself instantly to see them panic and try to do something with the ten seconds of life they have left.
notworksafe
Member
I thought Pandora kills the tagged out character?
Tizoc
Member
I wonder if the reason the PC ver. is releasing in May is so they remove the data for the 12 Vita characters?
They have left or YOU have left ;P
They have left or YOU have left ;P
Filth
Member
kills the guy thats currently fighting and the partner comes in pandoraed out
CountAntonius
Member
I'm saying if I am the point man lose life activate pandora I will die and he will come in wont he?
The troll would'nt be too good anyway I forgot I need sub 25% health.
So who does the tagging in out?
nah unfortunately pandora in its current state is weaksauce.
some people already mentioned that you can hit someone who is pandora'd with a combo that would eat all the time. Also if you play a grappler like hugo, you can hit them with one throw that eats up most of the time. Or even just run as soon as you see them pandora.
Two players pandora'd with no one beating each other = a draw, which will usher in a new era of staged final rounds (joking of course). Probably the only time we'll see it used for a while (until people figure out if there are any practical applications), is someone doing it by accident. And that will be hilarious and awesome.
Unfortunate though as it makes the cool pandora versions of characters unecessary. This is of course without messing with gems as I've only messed around with the default loadouts.
Flying Wonkey
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CountAntonius
Member
Thanks been really curious about this. But if two people use pandora how is it possible to beat each other? Last person to activate wins? Or is it automatic draw. I wasn't aware there was health during pandora just a timer.
Tizoc
Member
Saaaay where is that fellow? Seems to have gone off the radar or such after he got bodied by Vowels.
narcosis219
Member
Pandora forces you to lose if you don't kill your opponent. If you havent killed them by your time up, you lose. In this case, the first person to activate pandora will lose if either player doesnt die
notworksafe
Member
So wait...if both players are below 20% (or is it 25?) HP and one Pandoras, the other player can just Pandora right there for a guaranteed win?
narcosis219
Member
I think so. You can timer scam them with it i guess
GotchaForce
Member
You get to play as Leo?
Flying Wonkey
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CountAntonius
Member
That makes pandora even more useless. =(
unless me and the other guy had the exact same life, he pandora'd..then like 1 second later I did. I ran away the whole time and we both got a draw (assuming I'd won because I had more pandora meter). That ended in a draw.
So I dunno. Every other time he used pandora I just ran away from hugo easy mode.
No, they didn't.
Activision said they were going to do this, and Microsoft denied everything soon afterwards.
It's incredible people can believe in those kinds of scare tactics.
This is weaksauce?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI7SjK97Qk4
Probably over half the cast can ex wallbounce... you can probably swap out the c.mk for 2 standing jabs if you start the combo with 1 bar instead of 2.
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SarcasticD
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Ultradavid is going to do a snatch and run again to AJ lol
As theres no Rose or C.Viper this time around, I will have to learn at least 2 chars all over again. (Rose and Viper were my mains in (S)SF4, and while Im very far away from being a good player, I could stand my ground with those two at least)
But, due to the addition of the Tekken chars, I will have a lot of fun trying to find 2 new mains !
Looking forward to the game a lot, also trying to convince a mate to buy the game so we can tag-team online.
But, due to the addition of the Tekken chars, I will have a lot of fun trying to find 2 new mains !
Looking forward to the game a lot, also trying to convince a mate to buy the game so we can tag-team online.
This was the last part of my quote, "This is of course without messing with gems as I've only messed around with the default loadouts." This doesnt look default to me:
Gameplay showing the use of the 'Advanced' Gems set with Pandora.
All gems in this set are only useful during Pandora Mode activation.
- Immense Power Gem Lv. 3 (Attack +30%. Condition: Activate Pandora)
- Divine Speed Gem Lv. 3 (Speed +20%. Condition: Activate Pandora)
- Proficiency Gem Lv. 3 (Reduce Cross Gauge usage 40%. Condition: Activate Pandora)
Time will tell how practical a set up like this is. Seems like a one trick pony. But I can't claim to be any expert. That being said I would like it to be useful for some circumstances, especially in 2v2.
biosnake20
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I think you can safely drop the Proficiency Gem from that setup, he was well over 2 bars when he went into that Super. Also unless that Divine Speed Gem was needed for Ken to dash in quick enough to combo the c.mk into Shippu, that too can be dropped. Speed gems affect walking and jumping speed, not to sure about dashes... but that's only 1 gem you have to give up to make your 500 dmg Pandora combos into 650 dmg.
The meter gem would be useful to do that combo just from Pandora x c.mk x Super but the bar will fill up in time if you can jab twice into x super. Even without the gem setup you're still looking @ a 500 dmg combo from 1 bar... if you're fighting someone with 50% life and you have 1 bar left... this is your easy maximum punish.
Pandora isn't overpowered or a match changer like x-Factor and Ultras, still situationally good and a lot of the cast can start Pandora combos via their ex wallbounces. If i'm fighting people online with characters who can ex wallbounce my pandora defense gem is going on the next game after they combo into it...
Like I already said, I'm just a casual fan of fighting games. Love playing them, but don't get serious or competitive. I don't notice latency.
I'm tempted, does it support 360 arcade sticks as well as pads?
Seems to support all wired xb360 controllers I've used on it. I've tried the mad catz SF4 fight pads, the afterglow xbox 360 wired controller, SF4 standard arcade stick, and the PDP marvel fightpad.
yea if pandora can become effective with only 1 gem, I could see it being way more practical than "plain".
CountAntonius
Member
Cinematic endings? What?
Flying Wonkey
Member
.... Why is that so hard to digest? Tekken has had cinematic endings for awhile now.
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How much did he pay them?