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Street Fighter X Tekken |OT| Truly, truly outrageous~
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ihearthawthats
Banned
ggs. i really wish kumas headbutt throw worked on crouching opponents. i think maybe i need to start using hunting stance more. he's a really fun character though.
so i'm reading in the guide that kumas standing jab has no hurtbox. sounds a bit misleading, as the way i read it would mean he should be able to beat anyone elses jab even if they jab first. i need to test it out.ccrook said:What in the world do you with Kuma when you're getting poked to death?
both can work pretty well without meter, although out of those two i'd say raven would probably be the better battery.noizychild said:
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
No clue about Raven but Steve's bread and butter for any considerable damage relies on EX Sonic Fang. He's also usually coming in off a tag cancel so he's definitely a meter user.
ShinobiFist
Banned
Your name rings a bell....VF? I swear I got down with you on VF5......
Akuma is more fun in this one. Combos galore. Akuma combo on Kuma.
http://www.twitch.tv/kadeybaybe/b/312130419
The Yomi is strong.
http://www.twitch.tv/kadeybaybe/b/312130281
Today's lobby was fun. If the netcode wasn't so stupid, this would be the greatest fighter online. 2 vs whatever is so fun.
People can say the game is crap now but if Capcom can fix a few things here and there, opinions can change. The randomness and hitboxes are the main problems. Grabs are less pronounced than AE but that just means you have to be more precise and not abuse it like in that game.
http://www.twitch.tv/kadeybaybe/b/312130419
The Yomi is strong.
http://www.twitch.tv/kadeybaybe/b/312130281
Today's lobby was fun. If the netcode wasn't so stupid, this would be the greatest fighter online. 2 vs whatever is so fun.
People can say the game is crap now but if Capcom can fix a few things here and there, opinions can change. The randomness and hitboxes are the main problems. Grabs are less pronounced than AE but that just means you have to be more precise and not abuse it like in that game.
ihearthawthats
Banned
do you have a youtube channel? i can't watch anything higher than 480p.
the netcode isn't so bad, i think i only get 1 bar with you which kinda sucks but was still playable. compared to 1 bar mvc3 matches, those are completely unplayable.
CountBlack
Member
Just figured out how easy Kazuya's infinite is.
Too bad I don't use the character anyway
Too bad I don't use the character anyway
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Im online if anybody wants to play on PSN: Xavipants
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Honestly, aside from the sound cutting out, I think it's hard to say the netcode is "bad" right now. I've gotten a lot of 2 bar matches that are stable and playable, and the rollback actually is working well in higher bar matches.
Fighting games are always dicey in the early days due to the theory I've got that: everybody buys the game, runs online to see if "the netcode in this one doesn't SUCK like they all do!", before getting mad and selling the game in a month. Often because they've got a horrible connection, insist on using wireless and pretend it's the same, or they have a badly configured router.
The longer fighting games are in the wild, the more natural selection seems to weed out everyone who either shouldn't be playing with their connection, or can't be bothered to set things up right and test it.
Fighting games are always dicey in the early days due to the theory I've got that: everybody buys the game, runs online to see if "the netcode in this one doesn't SUCK like they all do!", before getting mad and selling the game in a month. Often because they've got a horrible connection, insist on using wireless and pretend it's the same, or they have a badly configured router.
The longer fighting games are in the wild, the more natural selection seems to weed out everyone who either shouldn't be playing with their connection, or can't be bothered to set things up right and test it.
Hey chaps, sorry to ruin the flow of discussion, but can anyone shed some light on the voices in this game?
Seems like a minor point, but I'm just curious how characters are sounding in general, and whether nostalgic characters like Hugo or Rolento retain any of their essence from previous games.
The cast sure look great, but so far I haven't heard any growly German, or evil Engrish (respectively of these two specific characters).
SF aside, how do the Tekken fans feel about their characters' voices? Are you happy with the Japanese/English options? (Do these even exist in Tekken games?)
Thanks for your input. Really looking forward to this popping through the mailbox!
Seems like a minor point, but I'm just curious how characters are sounding in general, and whether nostalgic characters like Hugo or Rolento retain any of their essence from previous games.
The cast sure look great, but so far I haven't heard any growly German, or evil Engrish (respectively of these two specific characters).
SF aside, how do the Tekken fans feel about their characters' voices? Are you happy with the Japanese/English options? (Do these even exist in Tekken games?)
Thanks for your input. Really looking forward to this popping through the mailbox!
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
The english voice acting is generally high quality, and Rolento's English voice is downright hilarious. It's good mind you - but the guy absolutely NAILS the "I eat shell casings for breakfast and shit grenades" tough guy CO.
Generally, I keep character voices set to the "logical" language. Asian people set to Japanese unless it's heavily canonical that they speak english, and everybody who should be speaking English set to that.
About the only voice I think is really bad so far is Law's english actor... very wrong IMHO. But he sounds better in Japanese anyway. By comparison, I oddly keep Hwoarang set to English because he seems like an international type of person, and his English actor sounds great.
Poison and Hugo's english voices seem dead on appropriate to me.
Otherwise, nothing really sticks out as sounding wrong or disappointing given the language settings I use.
Oh, one very nice touch that's new to this game: all the cut scenes, whether real time (like fight intros) or story and ending scenes, respect individual language settings per character. They actually DID keep every voice track separate.
So if you have Cammy set to English, and Chun Li to Japanese, in their story intro, and in their CG ending, they will still speak the correct language with subtitles for the Japanese dialog.
abstract alien
Member
I hate almost all the english voices. They get repeatitive quickly for me, especially on often used moves, so I opt for Japanese most of the time. It partially due to me just liking the sound of another language but still understanding what is going on on-screen as well. I believe the only one I have set to english is Balrog(boxer).
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Japanese Cammy is worst Cammy.
I generally prefer Japanese voices, when available, in most games. However there's some characters in this game who I absolutely have to have in English. Cammy, Poison, Rufus, Vega, Balrog, and a few others (including most Tekken characters, save for Heihachi and Kazuya). And ESPECIALLY Juri. Jessica Straus gives Juri such a great personality that the Japanese VA just can't match.
MarkMan
loves Arcade Sticks
Kazuya is so good. Make sure you learn them EWGFs combos. The extra damage really adds up
No, Japanese Guile is the worst. It pains me to hear him.
I always have everyone on English, it seems pretty good as typical for them...with one exception. Like Kaijima I set Law to JP, so he's the only one in the cast. The voice doesn't fit him AT ALL.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Oh man, Law has got to have the WORST English voice in the game. He's supposed to be middle-aged. Why, then, does he sound like a 17 year old? Total miscasting there.
Also, Jin's English VA is Brad Swaile, AKA Amuro Ray from the English dub of Mobile Suit Gundam. That alone is reason enough to set him to English.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Also, Hwoarang speaking any language but Korean is just wrong.
CountBlack
Member
I can't stand Heihachi's Overhead attack that is completely safe. Its so spammable. The priority of the attack hit me out of a jumping roundhouse, really?
And fuck Zangief's lariat.
And fuck Zangief's lariat.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Which Heihachi attack is that, again?
(I'm not a Heihachi player...nope...not at all...)
GhostRidah
Member
I said god damn at some of the WGF combos. Like daaaamn. I didn't even know about some of those possibilities.
In other news I said fuck it, and will just stick with my OG team of Rolento/Kazuya. It gets me the most wins and they share some fantastic synergy. Rolento with all meter gems, Kazuya with all power gems. Rolento on point.
Oh and I beat TimeDog tonight. His Ibuki and Ryu are mad free.
abstract alien
Member
I feel even more inadequate now.
good combos here.
narcosis219
Member
im getting the feeling some of these guys are using easy mode, but they treat it as a win even with the easy gems on. thats why online is a near no go for me.
I lost to THE lamest mother fucker on the planet tonight.
Ken/Ryu. Knew no combos, but did ABC launch, jab jab, tatsu, tag, jab jab, tatsu. Did shitty damage, cost him meter, but it ate up tons of time. Rest of the time was spent with him blocking or doing hados, and if I tried a block string, or did a confirm and dropped? Shoryu.
I'd say it was my own fault, but 2nd round I intentionally dropped the jab jab, low forward shit with Rolento to bait out shoryus so i could then punish, but it didn't come.
; ;
abstract alien
Member
Lol, sometimes you just gotta go for the guaranteed damage when facing a formidable foe such as yourself.
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Just realized Steve is like every character in Hajime no Ippo combined, so yeh, new main confirmed.
I can do like 90% of everything I've seen for videos for Steve. No issues. The problem? Setting any of it up, or defending to find my opening to set it up. ; ;
Such a great character, but I'm just too ass with him.
I'm not formidable that's for sure, if I was I wouldn't drop my damn links!
SephirothRK
Member
https://twitter.com/#!/CMPunk/status/181591117177946114
and maybe Kofi reply to that
https://twitter.com/#!/TrueKofi/status/181591785439629314
and maybe Kofi reply to that
https://twitter.com/#!/TrueKofi/status/181591785439629314
abstract alien
Member
It's pretty striking how we have
Just about to post that. So sick. Some of those combos look like the shit he does in his actual tekken mishima combo videos. Ridiculous
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Yeah the sound issues online are making it reeeeally hard to time any openings. Ive been getting dominated by most Tekken characters bceause theyre so rush heavy, feels like they have preference over everything.
Weird I have more issues with the SF side of the cast.
Most people use their same 1-2 set ups for their Tekken characters, end it on something unsafe at some point, and then let me punish.
SF characters though? Safe safe safe, mix up, safe safe some more, zone, safe, anti air city, safe safe, mix up, etc.
; ; A fair amount of the Tekken cast is just very 1 dimensional in how they want to open you up. Luckily I play Kazuya who has a good chunk of options to always keep players on their toes.
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Thats because theyre based on very specific boxing styles and take inspiration from there. You have Tyson/Balrog, Ali/Dudley and Steve/Ippo. With the shotos theyre kinda making it up as they go.
Shouta
Member
That's why I'm riding the Kuma and Law train! Much easier to play these two with that shitty netcode than some other characters.
Well, both Dudley and Steve are pretty much designed around Ippo. Dudley has the Corkscrew Blow and the Dempsey Roll while Steve has basically every other signature attack in Ippo (including the Dempsey Roll, to a degree).
If I had to attach the two to particular characters in Ippo, however, I'd say Dudley plays like Ippo and Steve plays like Miyata. Steve just has so many counter-punching tools at his disposal.
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Dudley has a cinematic that looks like Ippo yeah, but the way he moves how he plays mid range, uses his reach and what his specials actually do remind me a lot of Ali and Lennox Lewis. The Ippo tuff was just flash added later.
Steve is based around the Ippo show, not he character.
Exact reason I dropped Chun in SFIV, Having a low health character with not a lot of single hit ways to damage annoyed the hell out of me. Dropped link = Flaming shoryu to the face =(
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
No one plays like Ippo, for they would be broken. Steve is like the new kid though. Who is more OP than ippo overall though.