The thing that pissed me off so much about AE's search was this:
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What do you fucking think, game?
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The thing that pissed me off so much about AE's search was this:
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What do you fucking think, game?
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
King DOES NOT need more damage. He just needs more solid normals.
Julia needs more damage too imo oh ogre as well and Kuma needs a damage nerf *kappa*
Ah yes. I forgot about that. Thanks.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
It make no fucking sense either because he has to use the proper one, meanwhile gief can grab you in either state near half screen away on a wiff 3 times faster
The miss animation for his low throw is so insulting too. Derp dance or something.
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Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Are the top 8 archives for NorCal not up yet?
Shouta
Member
You just want Ogre and Julia to dominate! Kuma is fine! He has bear limbs, bear speed, and terrible bear anti-air!
But seriously, A small increase to King's damage as it is right now, mostly on normals would be nice I think. He can't chain like crazy aside from spending meter on EX Convict kicks. I mean hell, his Reverse Arm Slam combo does the same damage across all punches which is kinda stupid.
So we agree that GAF should unify and tweet him to pick up Bob.
I just think people are playing him wrong. King should focus on using his counters more.
Relying on counters is never a good idea, which are incredibly shitty compared to juri's.
They need to make him into an actual grappler like he should be. Decrease the startup on his throws, so they're an actual threat. Improve his normals (they're almost all - on block).
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
I think the grappler design is pretty bad (outside of damage) unless you're Gief or Hugo. Kuma for example has awful command grabs and terrible pokes in comparison to both of them with no notable advantages. The fact he has a high only command grab is idiotic given he has nothing to make the opponent block standing. As was the decision to give him another command grab with low range, slow start up, higher execution than any other grab in the game, and let's not forget it has a massive chance of crossing over with the inputs of 50% of his specials.
I mean king's shining wizzard only hits crouching opponents but that makes sense given people have plenty of reason to block low against him when he gets in. People have no reason what so ever to be blocking high against Kuma (beyond his 9,000 frame overhead).
Da fuck is this shit?
The timing for an anti air one is tight as hell and needs to be done on prediction and not reaction, and once people know you do it, they just empty jump throw your ass. Sure you could try to knee if they start to do that, but it's a guessing game at that point.
As for his ground counter doesn't it only work against stand pokes? Which honestly most peeps use lows to start up footsies.
His counters and command grabs more so are just ass. He needs 1 command grab that covers both high and low, and his counters should be changed so the anti air one covers highs and jump ins, while the standing one should cover lows.
Ragingnight
Member
her qcf+p is a standing command grab
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Press Lp, Mp, Lk, c.Lk, Hk a lot at desired ranges. Dash cancel backdash his firepunch x infinity when out of range of said attacks.
You are now awesome.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Two characters are hard to learn and manage!
lmfao, Thanks a ton bro! <3
So you have someone to blame when you lose. MOBA effect.
Shouta
Member
What? King's PP counter is like one of the best Anti-Airs in the game. It'll pretty much stop anything as long as you got the timing down. Granted, it should be back and PP and the window should be longer. His KK version (High/Mid) isn't as good but can be nasty if you can read it.
Kuma isn't really a grappler though His damage is in fact, clawing people to death for the most part. Kuma has really easy combos for big damage as long as you fish for them. You don't even have to use his throws to win. Kuma's Headbutt is only useful for a few surprise antics and fireball/occasional long poke punish. Circus' command is mega ass though and does pretty poop damage. But he seriously has nasty and easy damage, just landing a f.lp leads to 400-500 damage.
Does it connect on crouching opponents?
Agree, i love King in Tekken but i dropped him in SF x T after about 4 matches. He needs a buff.
Spectators just want to see the drama when a team loses.
Oh and see cross assault gimmicks. It's like the idea of no vortexes and other cheap stuff is the most repulsive thing ever.
People were so disappointed to see their block stun and unblockables were bs offline and alpha counterable.
Strangely, the old SF4 cross up unblockables are still in the game. Thanks Capcom. :/
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
I dont think anyone can judge a character after 4 matches let alone call for buffs LOL
King and Yoshi are the only characters that desperately need buffs. Literally everything King has is too slow. His only use is a tag combo, then get him the fuck out before he gets blown up. I've actually been j.RH out of the DP anti-air grab
I don't think they ever meant it to be an anti air, just a jungle ender. Except his EX version but ugh he needs that meter for his konvict kick.
ihearthawthats
Banned
king's grabs actually go further, especially his ex version. they have long startup because i assume due to the range (he dashes up a bit before grabbing). can't exactly be used for footsies like giefs though because of the slow speed, but the ex version has invulnerability.
honestly, what would make him scary is if if all versions and not just the ex had some frames of invulnerability. i'd take that over a faster startup.
why not use his counter special? his close standing strong isn't too bad either if timed right, so mix it up with that to prevent them baiting counter with empty jump.impact said:I've actually been j.RH out of the DP anti-air grab
Shouta
Member
I could get behind invulnerability. LP Giant Swing is 250 (damage is reversed compared to SPD) damage so, it would be hot in close and personal.
narcosis219
Member
I think the way that the way the game handles re-searching for matches has to do with PSN/XBL's regulation on it. I remember reading in the past about some developer saying that they had to do it this way because PSN/XBL rules said they had to.
Even SC5 has a "search failed, search again?" prompt, and they nailed their online implementation pretty well.
It probably has to do with server load; if clients are just left on a search loop, then it might be taxing on the servers. IDK.
I haven't run into this problem yet with SFxTK. It seems to search forever, which kind of makes me wonder why they were able to do it if what I recalled is true.
I dropped him for Hugo because I have special needs ^_^
Watching NCRX this weekend, I realized somethig....people NEED to stop changing characters during combos all the time! (don't remember if it has a specific name). This meter they spend is supposed to be used for Super Arts. It's more damaging then infinite's exchange combos and I bet there'll be a lot less time out's when people realize this....
Let's pick an example: Jin's SA, it's LONG, maybe the longest.
If you hit it 3 times in a round, it'll kill a character (you can build a ton of bars in this game). And you have the time to do it. And it's garanted damage, you can't drop in the middle of an SA.
Now these exchange combos. It takes a little less time than the SA, you can drop those (it's hard not to drop) and they don't give as much damage as a SA.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Single exchanges are worth it if you need a safe way to tag out and they will do more damage than a standard combo, double exchanges are almost never worth it.
Exchanging after a chain launcher is also really stupid, as chains scale super super hard in this game.
Just made a test with Jin, 10 seconds and 394 damage it's the time of cr.MP cr.MP xx SA
And another test (I don't play Jin), took 20 seconds to build 2 bars, so you can do A LOT of damage just building bar and doing a SA.
I know, I love those crazy exchange combos too, but, if will gonna talk shit about a game, you gotta LEARN how to play it, play to win, not to do combo videos.
And another test (I don't play Jin), took 20 seconds to build 2 bars, so you can do A LOT of damage just building bar and doing a SA.
I know, I love those crazy exchange combos too, but, if will gonna talk shit about a game, you gotta LEARN how to play it, play to win, not to do combo videos.
Unless it closes out the round or gives you the lead is it really worth spending the second bar to do 70 pts extra damage at the cost of wiping out 150-200pts of your own health?
C1 initiates.
C2 gets in first switch in. Neglible health loss.
C1 gets switched back in 3 hits later/1 sec later. Probably not a neglible loss of regenerable health.
Yea, Infiltration was doing that all the time, and he won! People are styling AND shitting too much on this game....
And yes, I love this game ^^
Unless you have 3 meters, blowing 2 on a SA is potentially risky. You're left with no meter to alpha counter, ex reversal, or exchange.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Meter build is pretty easy in this game for a lot of the cast, gotta abuse them dash cancels!