QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
I ment true for him haha. But I guess... HE IS RAGING! dohoho
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I ment true for him haha. But I guess... HE IS RAGING! dohoho
I'm black and I main Hugo/Guile, so not so much ... I might be inclined to take on someone more execution intensive if I had more play time. As it is, I only get in maybe 10 hours a week.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
GhostRidah
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Ok ok so we got whites and blacks, so where is my latino's at? PR!
KOFXIII thread
I wont be able to play for like an hour
I'm going to be afk for a little bit anyway.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
I should get on mic today and be annoying as fuck. But I hate playing with the sound on with the sound bug so pc playlist for now -.-
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Back dash or forward dash and beat the shit out of their wiff?
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
This is the equivalent of losing a match in an unconvincing matter, waiting for the next fight only to see your opponent leave when its your turn to fight again.
Oh well. I'll play him anyways, I'd rather play a character who I enjoy and is strong than to play a character that is obscure and garbage. No more low tier hero shit for me.
GhostRidah
Member
haha true
syLo ASSidy o0o0o0o naa but yea chrisK and Josh
Fucked around with Gems on Kazuya today, and rethought my power gems.
Currently with 3 meters I can get 983 with my Kazuya.
With 2 it's around 800 some.
The most I was able to get was 1283 but that had the dumb Pandora gem so it's 100% worthless, but fuck me if that isn't some serious juice.
Rethought my Rolento meter gems as well, and am able to get all 3 to almost proc same time and each is giving a huge boost in meter gain, so now if I land one a knife at the start of a match, then a rekka combo, then I'm in there for some super good meter gain for Kazuya to burn.
Currently with 3 meters I can get 983 with my Kazuya.
With 2 it's around 800 some.
The most I was able to get was 1283 but that had the dumb Pandora gem so it's 100% worthless, but fuck me if that isn't some serious juice.
Rethought my Rolento meter gems as well, and am able to get all 3 to almost proc same time and each is giving a huge boost in meter gain, so now if I land one a knife at the start of a match, then a rekka combo, then I'm in there for some super good meter gain for Kazuya to burn.
Ah, thanks.
Will try this again when I get on.
Here's how I do it:
The first time you hit the buttons is when you see the crack and two white splashes appear near the point of impact, you then hit again fairly quick after that, then there is a long pause to hit the last one when the screen hits black.
Now I can't do it just by watching it, BUT I found a way to hit the buttons to a pattern or rhythm I create as I press buttons. I don't mash, because that won't work, but you can hit as much as you like as long as you do get a the follow up hits when they need to be. Basically, find a way to drum the buttons along and keep in mind the final hit needs a pause in it.
Ratta ratta ratta, pause, ratta~ratta quickly is how I get it everytime.
Just practice and switch up your timings from earlier to later until you find the sweet spot.
This will be very helpful. I would get on and try now if I didn't have work to finish. Much appreciated.
His problems don't lie in damage imo. It lies in hit boxes and foot speed. He is THE easiest character in the game to zone out and just run away from. Plus his hit boxes on his up kicks is dog shit to use as a reversal on wake up. Most of his specials leave him unsafe as fuck too, so that makes him trying to do mix ups like his smasher pointless.
It'd be nice if the knee cap move that moves you forward, could be comboed after mid screen without the ex version.
Also, does landing a sway into HP version where he puts his palm out result in a wall bounce even on counter hit? That'd be great.
Shouta
Member
I think his damage is still pretty lacking. Biggest issue is that all of his specials have the same damage I think, which is awful. His combo options aren't nearly as good as other Tekken characters as well.
toddhunter
Member
LMFAO! That gif is fantastic. Goooootecks.
In memory of Gootecks I'm going to buy two silver rings just like his so I can step up my handsomeness and overall swag.
@Shouta
Also good points there. His combo extension is lousy to capitalize on meter. It's like always better to tag in a partner to get more juice with him it seems. Quite the opposite of Kazuya.
I tried a ton of variations with the teams I use with Kazuya, and attack gems on both, etc and varying up when to tag in, when to spend meter, going for team supers, and all that jazz. In the end I found it's always best for Kazuya to just spend his meters on solo supers. If you have that 1 extra meter just use it for an ex S.Hook into Cr. HP into super.
I hope someday they buff Paul though. Him, Bob, King, and Yoshi are characters I really like and want to play with Kazuya, but I just feel lacking in one too many ways. The only one I'm not sure may be ass in there is Bob, who I still think is slept on, and needs someone with solid execution and footsies to shine light on him.
The knee move is called Mountain Raze. As far as I know, the HK version of MR can be combo'd in the corner, and it pushes them a pretty long way anyway. So it's not that far of a stretch to say he might punish a projectile into a combo. (HK MR can also be combo'd from cr.MP, which is one of Paul's better pokes.)
No, HP Sway does not wall bounce on counter. Also he doesn't really put his palm out, it's more of a punch that knocks down if it connects. The EX version ends with a palm, though.
And not everyone can have a real Shoryuken, I guess. : /
Paul has options, just very very few, unfortunately making him pretty predictable. I'm not going to stop using him though. At least, not yet.
Shouta
Member
With Power Gems though. Some characters in this can get pretty wild with them but it's only supplemental damage.
Honestly, defense gems are probably the best choice for Tekken, mostly because it allows you to get messy and go in if you got high damage combos. The extra power is nice but most characters have enough to end matches quickly anyway. Power Gems help SF characters quite a bit though.
I'm of the Gootecks mindset philosophy of SF. Meter, meter, meter. That's why Rolento is the battery for me. I find my own defense and footsies good enough that I shouldn't ever lose a match free, and instead it will be down to the wire, or clearly in my favor.
That's why I want power gems on Kazuya when I can tag him in off a Rekka. He does fantastic damage if you catch people sure, but his normal link combos without EWGF aren't too beafy, and those gems make even those scary.
Plus, right now a lot of my shitty match ups are against giant health characters. (Rufus, Hugo, Gief) I want every hit I can get in on them to REALLY hurt as bad as how one of their openings on me hurts badly with or without gems.
You're right though that in the current state of the game, defense gems are hella strong, especially if you don't mind playing lame and taking advantage of the game's shitty clock. At some point I hope the time issue is patched, and that way my gem philosophy will be even stronger.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Never I will stick with power julia and ogre and you will deal with it!
I just don't think it's possible with certain distances (and possibly characters).
I love it when someone activates super when I have a defense gem or two on. It's like, that gem was worth its slot!
Went to training mode to optimize some stuff with Kazuya/King. I discovered that you can't tag cancel Kazuya's mist step uppercut (lp), so no fancy uppercut into King knees. Figuring out ways to get King's elbow special into some combos.
And I discovered that I've been leaving an 'easy' 106 damage on the table with Kazuya after a god wind fist. I always went for a sweep after, but it is so much better going standing fierce xx mist step xx uppercut into kick followup. You just gotta get the standing fierce timing down.
That's been obvious from day one. I think the game is fun, but why does the movement of all these characters feel more rigid than in SF4? Something I can't put my finger on. Characters I used to use, Guile, Ryu, Ibuki...just not as smooth using them to me.
"God's Beard!"
Member
Shit-ass walk speeds.
I personally think they took out some of the animations to compensate for a lot of other stuff.
Man, I have come to the conclusion that Asuka is absolutely inept in this game.
- None of her normals have feasible Anti-Air properties
- None of her air to airs have have any special properties such as putting them in a juggle state or ground bounce
- Her counter is absolutely useless if any of the specials done by the opponent have them leaving the ground at any point in time... i.e. you can't counter dragon punches, hunting hawks, spinning bird kicks, etc.
- Her command grab and her anti air grabs are extremely risky to use unless you use the EX version because of their startups
- Her super is retardedly hard to juggle into considering you need to get the last cartwheel kick to connect
- Her only way of dealing with projectiles is her hcb+p which can only be viable to use at a range where no one is stupid enough to even throw a fireball.
- Nothing to pressure with at long range
- Her only good Anti Airs is her LVL3 and EX air grab making her extremely vulnerable to jump ins.
By no means am I an expert at this game so I could've missed a lot but lordy, there's very little reward to playing her considering how risky she is.
- None of her normals have feasible Anti-Air properties
- None of her air to airs have have any special properties such as putting them in a juggle state or ground bounce
- Her counter is absolutely useless if any of the specials done by the opponent have them leaving the ground at any point in time... i.e. you can't counter dragon punches, hunting hawks, spinning bird kicks, etc.
- Her command grab and her anti air grabs are extremely risky to use unless you use the EX version because of their startups
- Her super is retardedly hard to juggle into considering you need to get the last cartwheel kick to connect
- Her only way of dealing with projectiles is her hcb+p which can only be viable to use at a range where no one is stupid enough to even throw a fireball.
- Nothing to pressure with at long range
- Her only good Anti Airs is her LVL3 and EX air grab making her extremely vulnerable to jump ins.
By no means am I an expert at this game so I could've missed a lot but lordy, there's very little reward to playing her considering how risky she is.
Incendiary
Banned
I tried for a long time to get the Jumping Knee Lift to connect and with any characters I paired him with (Zangief, Cammy, Hwoarang, Law, Abel off the top of my head) the jumping knee lift just doesn't combo well. I can't even get it to work off an EX Hunting Hawk switch. You might have success with a c.HP into a knee lift but I can't get it to work. The only normals I can get to work reliably off a switch with King is his HP and HK which pretty much end combos anyway.
I think only certain characters launch you high enough to get knees right away. Vega I think. For Kazuya after a launch I do c.jab as soon as possible, rising knee, then standing fierce cancelled into powerbomb, ex powerbomb or super.
But that's general across all characters. She could have desperately used something like ryu or juri's j.mp to give her something against people that just freely jump to her.