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Street Fighter X Tekken |OT| Truly, truly outrageous~
- Thread starter Tizoc
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If I play Guile/Sagat I actually got 2 viable characters.
Guile/King works great, but King is only there to finish Guile's tag-combo's, his incredible damage with his super (with a 20% damage gem on it) and his easy launcher combo's
f.lk into launcher combo and cr. mk into launcher combo both work great.
I'm not even trying his command throws or his knee-combo set-ups anymore, and sadly it works so much better.
Guile/King works great, but King is only there to finish Guile's tag-combo's, his incredible damage with his super (with a 20% damage gem on it) and his easy launcher combo's
f.lk into launcher combo and cr. mk into launcher combo both work great.
I'm not even trying his command throws or his knee-combo set-ups anymore, and sadly it works so much better.
Combo's with Guile:
Almost all my combo's are launcher combo's
I keep poking, zoning and jumping in until I got some decent meter build up.
After that the best combo that actually has is so simple.
J. HK, cl. HK into launcher
Great damage, and so little damage scaling for the second character.
When I tag Guile in, again simplicity is the key word, use what always connects.
So a simple cr. mp, cr. mp XXX lk-flashkick works every time.
Guile High kick into lk-flashkick is also an easy punish.
When you have meter to spend, cr. mp XXX Super (If you use another cr. mp the sonic hurricane doesn't connect on all it's hits.)
combo's with King:
If you get the chance, hit them with j.HP, knee, knee, knee, knee, cl. hp and finish with your super or RJB. (you can also start with a cross-up j.mk)
lp, mp XXX ex-convict kick into the same knee combination as above
jaguar spin, people's elbow, cl. hp into super or reverse armslamcombination is great for wake-up mix-ups.
cr. lp, cr. lp XXX RASC, easy pressure damage.
If, and only if, people start blocking everything you do, then you can mix them up with an EX-command grab. But if that fails you're really boned. Never rely on his grabs.
f.lk hits low, so use that for a launcher combo, or cr. mk, hk, hk
Both he and guile have got an awesome cr. mk for launchers.
Sagat:
Everything revolves around hitting that EX-tiger knee, from there there are so many combo's possible. Mostly I'll just use, j.hp, EX-tiger knee, j.hp, Tiger uppercut.
But after the wallbounce you can throw in another Ex-tiger knee, a forward HK, or you can even end it with a super.
forward highkick is also a great punish tools for jump-ins. You can hit it twice and finish with a tiger uppercut.
Everything about Sagat is solid. But I'm just using him so I can only get better from here.
I mean I'm chucking fireballs at him, and then he goes and does his knife move. That effectively shuts down my fireball game by him risking the freeze of the whole game. It's not about beating the knife, it's about scarring me out of fireballing.
And I'm really new with Sagat, so I'd just listen to hertog's post. Right now it's pretty much all SF4 strats, with a sprinkling of EX knees. One thing I noticed about this:
- if EX tiger knee hits 2-3 times, you can j.fp into uppercut after the wallbounce
- if EX tiger knee hits 1 time, you have more juggle points, so you can j.fp d.mk into uppercut, or whatever you want.
With King I tend to c.lk c.mk s.hp EX konvict kick into more pressure (since it's really plus on block), and try to get knees whenever I can. I really need to bring his shoulder charge (that has armor) and his LK Konvict Kick (which is pretty plus on block too) into his game, as they seem really good. Also, jaguar spin.
Make sure you guys don't use EX Spinning Bird Kick, EX Galactic Tornado, Rufus' super or Yoshimitsu's super against Rolento either lolol
feel free to use another Rolento because his glitch is immune to his own projectile lolol
lol add Hugo's EX air throw to the list
ok time to stop crashing my ps3
feel free to use another Rolento because his glitch is immune to his own projectile lolol
lol add Hugo's EX air throw to the list
ok time to stop crashing my ps3
LOL, nice work.
Funnily enough, since the patch the frequency of Rolento's have gone up on XBL. Maybe it's just me though.
Shoulder tackle is so hard to do on a fightpad
and I sometimes fumble with convict kicks, when they actually hit I often forget a follow-up, making it the most punishable move on hit there is (non ex-version that is)
Sagat can also go from a cr. mp to his ex-tiger knee after a launcher combo.
It makes him so perfect in synergy with Guile, that and the fact that he has 1050 hp.
He also has such a solid cross-up, only thing that I'm missing with Sagat is reach on his pokes.
Was reading the brady guide:
Low Step Kick: During this attack, Sagat quickly steps forward and throws out a sweeping ankle kick and then steps backwards to safety. Low Step Kick is a decent
poke because its safe on hit or block and has only slightly less range than standing HK . Unlike most attacks, Low Step Kick can be canceled before it hits into any
Special Move, Super Art, or Cross Art! You can use this to cancel into a Tiger Uppercut that reaches nearly half-screen or whiff cancel it into a Low Tiger Shot to keep
your opponent in more blockstun. If Low Step Kick Counter Hits a standing opponent, Sagat will be left at +35 frame advantage, which is enough time to perform a full
jump-in combo!
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Need to use that move more often
Low Step Kick: During this attack, Sagat quickly steps forward and throws out a sweeping ankle kick and then steps backwards to safety. Low Step Kick is a decent
poke because its safe on hit or block and has only slightly less range than standing HK . Unlike most attacks, Low Step Kick can be canceled before it hits into any
Special Move, Super Art, or Cross Art! You can use this to cancel into a Tiger Uppercut that reaches nearly half-screen or whiff cancel it into a Low Tiger Shot to keep
your opponent in more blockstun. If Low Step Kick Counter Hits a standing opponent, Sagat will be left at +35 frame advantage, which is enough time to perform a full
jump-in combo!
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Need to use that move more often
Tizoc
Member
Right now? No since I'm gonna hit the sack soon. I'm free on Thursdays and Fridays though (any time before 8 PM GMT)
Mind you my net is pretty crappy and only good for playing against people from the Middle East ^_^;
No XBL. I have a PS3 though so i'm tempted to pick up some used copies of different fighters, just for the fresh blood.
EDIT - hmm, just had the game freeze on me. No fireball/knife shinannigans, I just swept with Sagat and it froze up. To the other guy I just disconnected, so it must've been unrelated and just a bug on my end.
EDIT 2 - nah it's just my xbox dying. WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I use lyteedge2 for Capcom fighters and lyteedge for Namco fighters on PSN. It's a mess...blame Capcom.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Pardon me, are they planning to overhaul SF x TK engine or battle system to make it fun? I can't help but recalled that from one of the article.
Tizoc
Member
I use lyteedge2 for Capcom fighters and lyteedge for Namco fighters on PSN. It's a mess...blame Capcom.
Hmm where do you live? The US? If you live in Europe I might get a good connection ^_^;
Haha, that's ridiculous. Basically you're lucky if you don't crash the game playing against a Rolento.
I just got some swanky new internet (in Japan though) so if anyone fancies helping a bro out and going toe-to-terrible-toe some time, then please add B-Genius on PSN.
Ibuki Master Guide Trailer
www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4S7NbRSd0I
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I posted this in both the AE thread and SFxT thread
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I posted this in both the AE thread and SFxT thread
"God's Beard!"
Member
Yay, you put the cFP resets in there ^_^
I remember posting those here when the game first came out, shit is so much fun.
SUPARSTARX
Member
Taking a break from this game until it's sorted out for console and PC. D3 time.
And the toryuken commentators for sfxt were pretty dumb. Why put these clowns on if they're not interested?
And the toryuken commentators for sfxt were pretty dumb. Why put these clowns on if they're not interested?
But that is pretty much every commentator for this game. Even Ultradavid, who seemed like he was somewhat interested in finding potential in this game, only does that because he is a known commentator and is pretty much forced to this game.
Civil War 4 was the only decent commentary and that was because you had one person who legitimately liked the game and one who was cautiously optimistic. The enthusiasm died later that tournament when they were replaced with Skisonic and Ultradavid.
and the fact that he's stunned after his wallbounce move that you can't hit it from everywhere, his dragon punch has no invincibility without hitting crouching opponents...
He is Dan, he's a shoto without a projectile who's slow and has only a few viable options.
He has a killer cross-up and can do some decent meterless damage.
Tizoc
Member
I shall observe that later today when I return home...
At any rate tried out Cammy in training mode yesterday; her St. HP does less damage than average, but I found this interesting corner combo-
(Jumping HK-->)St. HK-->JC-->Dive kick-->Cr. HP, Cr. MK-->QCF+KK-->St. HPxxDP+HK
Forgot how much damage it did though ^_^;
At any rate tried out Cammy in training mode yesterday; her St. HP does less damage than average, but I found this interesting corner combo-
(Jumping HK-->)St. HK-->JC-->Dive kick-->Cr. HP, Cr. MK-->QCF+KK-->St. HPxxDP+HK
Forgot how much damage it did though ^_^;
U.S....Southeast.
Losing is all I seem to be able to do. I do nothing but training mode for weeks at a time, then go online and get destroyed by every possible team combination. I can barely get any moves off, I don't feel like I'm learning anything and am generally not having any fun. I don't understand how every player I come across is an expert.
Just whining.
Just whining.
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
What are they doing that's destroying you? What makes them experts?
Truth. Jin and Xiaoyu are also a joke compared to Bison and Juri.
The Tekken side even gets the shaft in the AI department.
ihearthawthats
Banned
bait the fireball. he always uses it at a specific range (99% of the time at the start of the round as well, but don't hold jump before the "fight", wait a splitsecond so he doesn't read your jump inputs). once you get the knockdown, hes pretty free to crossups (no autocorrect dp?), so just keep doing crossup into hardknockdown and repeat until dead.
what moves are you trying to do exactly? do you mean they get stuffed? or that you get nervous and have executional errors? focus on fundamentals. a standing poke, hit confirmed into a chain and boost combo is decent damage without even using a single special move.j10 said:
NoizyChild
Member
Has anyone seen this yet?
I think it's safe to say we'll be getting the DLC 12 before or on this date.
I think it's safe to say we'll be getting the DLC 12 before or on this date.
The release date for this collection is Sept. 18th and the Vita version is supposed to be released in the fall so the characters' release won't be dramatically early, if at all.
"God's Beard!"
Member
Uggh the finals are in San Fran? Does that mean only the winners can enter? Because that'd be the only one I could go to...
They said they were considering pushing out the characters earlier to bring life back to the game.
Well it's not like you were going to play me again ever. A few days after my 360 went, my TV decided to shut off and not turn back on anymore. Enjoy D3 ... I can't becausemy gaming PC won't stop BSOD every 5-10 minutes. I'm ready to blow up the world right now.
Damn. Can't use your PC monitor as the TV ?
Someday in the future we'll do a run back on a different game. P4 or TTT2 perhaps.
Yeah, that and my PS3 is still working so I'm not completely out of electronic devices. Plus my laptop but it can't handle much gaming.Damn. Can't use your PC monitor as the TV ?
Well if you aren't a broke ass you can always hit up getting a new gaming PC. You can get a PC that runs Witcher 2/BF3 on max at Dell.com for roughly $1,000.00. You'd probably spend about the same amount trying to build it yourself. Then you can hit up that SFxT PC when it hits, and enjoy D3 till then.