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Stuck in the Past - a 33 RPM thread for vinyl listeners and collectors

Joe

Member
I know ZERO about vinyl. How is the Audio Technica AT-LP60 for a beginner?

Reviews say there is no automatic setting for 10" records, I don't know if that is a deal breaker or not.

I'd be hooking it up to a basic Onkyo 5.1 receiver, so I don't think I'd need a preamp?
 

omgkitty

Member
5 disc box set of their last MSG performance. $70.

Wait is this for sure??? Fuck me this might be the first Record Store Day I go to. I NEED THAT. I literally cried watching that show online. I have the damn poster from the show on my wall!!!
 
I know ZERO about vinyl. How is the Audio Technica AT-LP60 for a beginner?

Reviews say there is no automatic setting for 10" records, I don't know if that is a deal breaker or not.

I'd be hooking it up to a basic Onkyo 5.1 receiver, so I don't think I'd need a preamp?
Reviews look pretty good, it should be fine for getting your feet wet. It says it has a built in phono preamp so you will be okay with any receiver. Turntables need more amplification than other electronics and will only work if your turntable has built in preamp or if your receiver has a "phono" input.

And the 10'' record thing is not needed, not many 10'' EPs.
 

Joe

Member
Reviews look pretty good, it should be fine for getting your feet wet. It says it has a built in phono preamp so you will be okay with any receiver. Turntables need more amplification than other electronics and will only work if your turntable has built in preamp or if your receiver has a "phono" input.

And the 10'' record thing is not needed, not many 10'' EPs.

hey thanks for the info!

the first vinyl i googled is apparently 10" only lol (radiohead kid a)
 
XX, The - Fiction (Young Turks - YT096) 7", Single, Ltd, Han

Goes for $120! my gf bought it for me for £7 over a R S Records t shirt.

Ended up selling this for $230. MENTAL. Its bought me two records and and the rest is going towards flights to Barcelona for me and my gf.
 
Reviews look pretty good, it should be fine for getting your feet wet. It says it has a built in phono preamp so you will be okay with any receiver. Turntables need more amplification than other electronics and will only work if your turntable has built in preamp or if your receiver has a "phono" input.

And the 10'' record thing is not needed, not many 10'' EPs.


I am also new to the game as of last year and did a lot of research and ended up with this. From what I understand this is about as good as it gets until you hit around $300+.

I have been very happy with it. Simple setup and sounds awesome to me.
 

amnesiac

Member
hey thanks for the info!

the first vinyl i googled is apparently 10" only lol (radiohead kid a)

The Radiohead 10" records (Kid A, Amnesiac) play at 33 rpm.

Most modern record releases run at 33 or 45 rpm. The only one I've seen in the past few years that didn't was a Beach Boys Good Vibrations RSD release.
 
Yeah whats a 10" setting? The record whole is the same unless its a 7" (and some still fit) but its either 33rpm or 45rpm which I would think any record player can do.
 

clip

Member
Gents, I'd like to get into vinyl records. Is anyone selling any used equipment that a rookie could get started with?
 
Gents, I'd like to get into vinyl records. Is anyone selling any used equipment that a rookie could get started with?

Go to your nearest yardsale/flea market/goodwill and pick up a player that is seemingly from the seventies and weights a ton and hopefully works. Pick up an amplifier with phono input and a speaker or two. Buy some records and enjoy.
 
Yeah whats a 10" setting? The record whole is the same unless its a 7" (and some still fit) but its either 33rpm or 45rpm which I would think any record player can do.

Automatic players will automatically drop the needle at the right spot at 12'' or 7'' depending on what setting you have it on, after you push the play button. I have definitely had it set to 12'' and put on a 45 before. That was not a fun noise.
 

Joe

Member
The Radiohead 10" records (Kid A, Amnesiac) play at 33 rpm.

Most modern record releases run at 33 or 45 rpm. The only one I've seen in the past few years that didn't was a Beach Boys Good Vibrations RSD release.
Ohh that's interesting, thanks for that!







What do you guys prefer to collect?

The 19XX original pressing valued at $10 in mint condition

Or the 20XX semi-limited rerelease pressing valued at $30 in mint condition?

I'm torn between nostalgia/original'ness and collectibility/monetary worth.
 
Ohh that's interesting, thanks for that!







What do you guys prefer to collect?

The 19XX original pressing valued at $10 in mint condition

Or the 20XX semi-limited rerelease pressing valued at $30 in mint condition?

I'm torn between nostalgia/original'ness and collectibility/monetary worth.

This got to be the first time I hear someone could prefer reissues in the first place. Especially if the OG is cveaper, what the shit. I guess that would explain why major labels release stuff like Fleetwood Macs Rumous again when it's easily findable in literally every flea market and used record store in existense.

I do buy a metric ton of reissues every week.
 

amnesiac

Member
What do you guys prefer to collect?

The 19XX original pressing valued at $10 in mint condition

Or the 20XX semi-limited rerelease pressing valued at $30 in mint condition?

I'm torn between nostalgia/original'ness and collectibility/monetary worth.

It depends... If an original pressing is hard to find/expensive, then I will probably get a reissue. For example, Velvet Underground + Nico.

If an original pressing is easy to find/cheap, then I will probably get that. For example, Neil Young's Harvest. I can't justify paying $20+ for a new copy when $7 copies are very easy to find.

There are some exceptions though... Bob Dylan's Blood on the Tracks OG vinyl (which is pretty cheap) sounds great but the recent MoFi pressing ($30+) is pretty much sonic heaven. Look around on the Steve Hoffman Forums to see what pressings sound the best.
 
It depends... If an original pressing is hard to find/expensive, then I will probably get a reissue. For example, Velvet Underground + Nico.

Velvet Underground+Nico is kinda a borderline case as it does have about million copies in circulation, so "early" press isn't that much harder to find than a reissue, but then again first pressing(s) are rather scarce and it's a very popular record in any case.
 

amnesiac

Member
Velvet Underground+Nico is kinda a borderline case as it does have about million copies in circulation, so "early" press isn't that much harder to find than a reissue, but then again first pressing(s) are rather scarce and it's a very popular record in any case.

In my experience, any issue of the album before 1980 doesn't go below $40 in decent shape and flies off the shelf within 15 minutes.
 
This got to be the first time I hear someone could prefer reissues in the first place. Especially if the OG is cveaper, what the shit. I guess that would explain why major labels release stuff like Fleetwood Macs Rumous again when it's easily findable in literally every flea market and used record store in existense.

I do buy a metric ton of reissues every week.

I will take a repress over an OG usually unless the OG is cheaper.
There is a cases where the OG is worth shit loads more on recent stuff like Nicolas Jarrs "Space is only noise". First pressing has a song with an undeclared sample so they had to "recall it" and repress it without it.

Old rock stuff is not something I deal with though so its rare for me to be able to get an OG cheap
 

number11

Member
http://new-vinyl.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/record-store-day-2014rsd-7-april-19.html

A ton more releases added to the RSD list. I definitely can't afford all the stuff I plan to get

Definite Buys:

- Fidenco, Nico Emanuelle Perche' Violenza Alle Donne (Death Waltz) LP
- Mansell, Clint In the Wall (Death Waltz) LP
- Paranorman OST Mondo (500 copies only with 3 different Glow in the Dark variations....Red, Blue or Green)
- Piovani, Nicola L Profumo Della Signora In Nero (Death Waltz) LP
- Rizzati, Walter 1990: Guerrieri Del Bronx aka The Bronx Warriors (Death Waltz) LP
- Outkast Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik LP (numbered to 4000 copies)
- Haim Forever 12" (features exclusive remix by Giorgio Moroder) (4000 copies)

On the fence:

- Soundtrack--Muppet Movie
- Parker Jr. , Ray Ghostbusters Theme (Glow in the Dark 10" with original, instrumental, dance mix and dub versions) (2000 copies)
- Spektor, Regina You've Got Time 7"
- Notorious BIG--Live After Death 3LP
- Anamanaguchi Scott Pilgram vs. The World (Videogame Soundtrack)
- Broken Bells Holding on for Life 12" (single + remixes, 4750 copies)
 

kick51

Banned
Any interest in buying awesome vinyl for cheaper than anywhere else online?

I've got a bunch of rarities and just plain good stuff. Mostly electronic music of various kinds, with some indie rock, plus beck and tool. No condition issues worse than a surface mark here or there, dust, or side split on a cover/sleeve. I think I had my fun with vinyl, now I'm too lazy to switch sides, and I'm moving, so it's all money taking up space on the shelf to me.

I can post a list here.
 

kick51

Banned
I will put it up in a few hours.

preview: beck mofis, clams casino, malkmus doing Can - Ege Bamyasi, Stereolab non-reprints, bunch of Tool, Eraserhead ost w/ baby pic, all kinds of good stuff.

i'll price it all against Discogs/Ebay (i'll list without prices and if someone's interested, PM and we'll go from there)
 

omgkitty

Member
I will put it up in a few hours.

preview: beck mofis, clams casino, malkmus doing Can - Ege Bamyasi, Stereolab non-reprints, bunch of Tool, Eraserhead ost w/ baby pic, all kinds of good stuff.

i'll price it all against Discogs/Ebay (i'll list without prices and if someone's interested, PM and we'll go from there)

OH YEAAAHHHHH
 

DiscoJon

Banned
I have to step my jazz game up... Recommendations please!

Man, that's a pretty broad question. What kind of instruments do you like? Saxophones? Trumpets? Do you like the music fast? Slow? Chaotic?

Some of the "must haves" are:

A Love Supreme -John Coltrane

Take Five -The Dave Brubeck Quartet

Kind of Blue -Miles Davis

Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers -Self Titled

Sonny Rollins -Saxophone Colossus


Anything Coltrane or Mingus is always good.
I'm a big Stan Kenton fan, epecially in his later years when he got really experimental and weird.
 

kick51

Banned
welp, I'm getting accused over PM of being an evil profiteer.

thanks for the interest for those who checked, but I think I'll take my shit elsewhere.

Send all complaints to Ken Masters

edit: my retro city rampage copy wasn't listed anywhere and has no price, so I didn't quote him any price and pulled the record from the list. then I got told I'm just trying to "flip it for big profit LOL" despite my post clearly saying I'm just selling stuff for cheaper than online prices. which means either I make "big profit" or take huge losses, actually

maybe i'll put the list back up but that shit really rubbed me the wrong way this morning
 

andylsun

Member
I should get around to putting the whole of my collection in discogs, but the most valuable three records so far are

Joy Division Unknown Pleasures - UK first release
Oasis - What's the Story Morning Glory - UK first release (bought on the day it came out)
Oasis - Definately Maybe - UK first release (bought on the day it came out)

at $142 median for Oasis, that's insane
 

pablito

Member
welp, I'm getting accused over PM of being an evil profiteer.

thanks for the interest for those who checked, but I think I'll take my shit elsewhere.

Send all complaints to Ken Masters

edit: my retro city rampage copy wasn't listed anywhere and has no price, so I didn't quote him any price and pulled the record from the list. then I got told I'm just trying to "flip it for big profit LOL" despite my post clearly saying I'm just selling stuff for cheaper than online prices. which means either I make "big profit" or take huge losses, actually

maybe i'll put the list back up but that shit really rubbed me the wrong way this morning

that's too bad. you had some good stuff.
 
welp, I'm getting accused over PM of being an evil profiteer.

thanks for the interest for those who checked, but I think I'll take my shit elsewhere.

Send all complaints to Ken Masters

edit: my retro city rampage copy wasn't listed anywhere and has no price, so I didn't quote him any price and pulled the record from the list. then I got told I'm just trying to "flip it for big profit LOL" despite my post clearly saying I'm just selling stuff for cheaper than online prices. which means either I make "big profit" or take huge losses, actually

maybe i'll put the list back up but that shit really rubbed me the wrong way this morning

you want to make PRIVATE messages public? Sure let's play that game

here was my response to you

I asked you how much you want for the record, not knowing what it goes for, you know how much you paid for it, I don't. You went online to see how much the market was asking for it, you couldn't' find a price, so you want to wait and see how much you can make on this thing (someone puts a copy on eBay for $100 you'll ask me for $100, someone puts a copy for $20 you'll ask for that).

I'm not desperate for this record, just thought as a vinyl user who loves games it would be cool to own, you want to sell what you can get for it, fine, that's your right. But you know what you paid for it originally, so yes, you do know logically what you should sell it for it, I'm not accusing you of anything.

Again, you know how much you originally paid for, so cut the bullshit about playing stupid like you're sitting on the Mona Lisa and trying to play innocent. I ask you a simple question originally "how much are you asking for?" again, you would know what to ask because you bought it.

You then proceed to tell me you don't want to sell it because you can't see it online anywhere and it could be worth a lot of money. Again, that's your right, I don't care. I have little interest in this record anyway just the novelty of it. But what you're trying to do by definition is seeing if you can flip it for profit. That's your right to do, but don't get butt hurt when you get called out on it.
 

amnesiac

Member
I should get around to putting the whole of my collection in discogs, but the most valuable three records so far are

Joy Division Unknown Pleasures - UK first release
Oasis - What's the Story Morning Glory - UK first release (bought on the day it came out)
Oasis - Definately Maybe - UK first release (bought on the day it came out)

at $142 median for Oasis, that's insane

Oasis albums should go down now that they're being re-released this year.
 

Cosmic Bus

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Last one is an '80s Japanese group called Mariah. Heady synthpop stuff, has parts that reminded me of Eno/Byrne, vocals in Japanese and Armenian(?!)

Wanted to pick up the new Lydia Loveless, but figure I'll wait for a few weeks and get it at her show... maybe autographed?
 

Cosmic Bus

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http://lightintheattic.net/releases/1140-l-amour
Available:
Digital – April 8th
CD – May 13th
LP – June 24th

In 1983, a man named Lewis recorded an album named L’Amour, which was released on the unknown label R.A.W. And that’s about all we know.

The record itself is a delicate, whispered album, reflecting the way the artist himself – spectral, movie star-like – almost disappears into the grey of the cover. It should come as no surprise that it failed to shout loudly enough to be noticed, another private press album that sank without trace.

The ingredients are simple: smooth synthesizers, feather-light piano, ethereal, occasionally inaudible vocals and the gentle plucking of acoustic guitars. But the effects are arresting: a spine-tingling, sombre album that echoes Springsteen’s Nebraska or Angelo Badalamenti’s atmospheric soundtracks. Later, Arthur Russell would grasp for something similar on the epochal World Of Echo LP.

L’Amour is a true discovery of the blog age, uncovered in an Edmonton flea-market by collector Jon Murphy, passed on to private press fanatic Aaron Levin, shared on the internet and speculated over by lovers of curious LPs. There’s almost no information about Lewis or the album on the internet. There’s precious little on the sleeve: a dedication to Sports Illustrated supermodel Christie Brinkley, a photo credit for Ed Colver, the noted L.A. punk rock photographer, and credits for engineer Bob Kinsey and synth player Philip Lees. All that was known of Lewis is conjecture: a rumor that he was a con artist who fled after not paying for L’Amour’s photo-shoot and a dubious theory that he was not actually of this earth.

When Light In The Attic looked to release the album, they set out to investigate the mystery. They found some answers, but more intrigue too. Colver was able to fill in some blanks. Firstly, Lewis is a pseudonym. The man the photographer met was named Randall Wulff. He stayed in the Beverley Hills Hilton, drove a white convertible Mercedes and dated a girl who looked like a model. He paid for his photo session with Colver with a $250 check, which bounced.

Eventually, the trail led to Alberta, Canada, where that first LP had been found. Liner notes writer Jack Fleischer along with master detective Markus Armstrong found Randall’s nephew, who remembered Randall as a stockbroker. His vague recollections include a visit to Randall’s apartment, with all-white furniture and that beautiful girlfriend in situ. Crucially, he offered another name – another of Randall’s pseudonyms – which led to a Vancouver studio and the revelation that Lewis had recorded three or four albums of “soft religious music” there. Alas, even the new nom de plume led only to dead ends.

Lewis remains a ghost, a total mystery, but the music will be heard. The album is being pressed for the first time in more than 30 years, and widely distributed for the first time ever. Lewis’s royalties will be placed in escrow until he makes himself known. Perhaps you know Lewis. Perhaps Lewis is you. The only certainty is this: Lewis is about to find a whole bunch of new fans.

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and that's why I could never live in Europe. ;)

In my part of Europe we have very nice pastries and cakes though. Maybe that makes up for it? And Sky Ferreira's LP was nowhere near as expensive to ship : )

Digging what I've heard of the Lewis album so far. And that cover! I must have it. Thanks a lot for the discovery!
 

Cosmic Bus

pristine morning snow
There's a rip of the original vinyl pressing floating around (which I guess one should feel more guilty about downloading now that it's being reissued) and I'm pretty sure at least a handful of songs on youtube.
 
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