Though when it comes to The Sacred Blacksmith, we knew from the beginning that the author wasn't aware of that.
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Summer 2012 Anime |OT| Goddesses, canines, and killer MMOs!
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Dedication Through Light
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Oh awesome, Sentai even licensed Hiiro no Kakera
3:30PM, but they're not going to stream it or anything. There's a schedule of what they'll be featuring on their live page.
Bah, I thought they would stream it.
Either way, it looks like they are announcing 10 titles today, so chances are the shows I'm watching will get picked up
Chet Rippo
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It's quite good, and I'm sure Gravijah would agree with me.
Jex
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But that's what Alt-Tab is for.
Dang. They really don't want to leave fans wanting more after the huge amount of shows they picked up during the spring season.
Great pick.
Ultimadrago
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I don't know about "hyping it up", but it's pretty consistent from episode to episode. Regardless, a nice choice from recent showings.
Jex
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But then what will you do if a few shows from Summer turn out to be good? You'll have no time to watch them all!
Train of Midnight
Banned
Yeah, it'll either be this or Tsuritama for me after I finish Steins;Gate.
hosannainexcelsis
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Meh. Kaoru's a teenager with a history of social isolation, he has an immature outburst of petty jealousy at perceived potential loss of a friend - that I can buy. I just feel that the way it was portrayed didn't sell it to me;
fang boy doesn't seem enough of a serious threat and Kaoru's actions on the beach seem wildly sudden and overdramatic.
as Kaoru continues to believe in a petty and irrational manner in his relationships with Sen and Ritsuko, all the way up to his graduation and departure. If this is supposed to be a coming-of-age story, it doesn't feel like Kaoru has actually come of age. The way the timeskip ending tries to cover this over by "Hey look Kaoru found Sen, and now they're jamming, and oh here's Ritsuko randomly showing up - isn't it great that the band's back together?" - it leaves the unresolved issues in their relationships smouldering in an unsatisfactory manner that makes it feel like the journey has been mostly pointless.
It's not true that no one had been badly hurt, as Sachiko was initially in a coma and the doctors said she might never wake again (this was kind of glossed over, unfortunately). So Sen blames himself for this, saying "Why do I always hurt those who I want to protect?", and presumably leaves because he feels that staying around will only further harm his family. But... this still doesn't make a lot of sense. Why was Sachiko on the back of his motorcycle anyway? This whole plotline is very sketchy - maybe the manga fleshes it out in a more comprehensible manner, but the anime certainly dropped the ball here.
I don't have a problem with this. If you want to believe that you will be reunited with that special person one day because of destiny of whatever, that's fine. I can understand that. It's not like Sen indicated he had any idea of the specific means by which he would be reunited with Kaoru. What I do have a problem with is that over the eight year gap the two of them would not make any attempts to reach out to each other. At the very least, I would have hoped that Sen, after presumably getting his life together, would have contacted his family to let them know he's alright. Maybe some of that did happen in the manga portions that were cut out, but again, this is a mark of poor and clumsy planning on the part of Shinichiro Watanabe and the other anime staff.
Jex
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To be fair, my change of avatar was actually a move backwards towards my original form.
Chet Rippo
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It's like they knew I was working on my next avatar and beat me to the punch.
...or not.
dakkumauji
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New season means new avatars!
Disregard that I didn't change my avatar with the new thread
Ultimadrago
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Same character, stick with me here!
Jex
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I wasn't saying that Sachiko wasn't badly hurt - I was just saying that, after a remarkably short amount of time she had miraculously recovered so no actual damage was done. It's not she received any permanent damage that we know of. Which, in itself is a cop-out.
Right, it all boils down to the length of the work they were adapting. I think it's really interesting that a far more junior director in terms of experience, Ei Aoki, took a completely different approach when he adapted Wandering Son and he was far more successful with it.
Rather than an attempting to cram the whole manga into 11 episodes he knew that he couldn't do it, so he chopped off the front and compressed that arc into flashbacks and then he chose a particular moment in the story to be the cut-off and finale. This led to a number of people saying "but all this important stuff was skipped!" or "they should have started at the beginning" but the path he chose to go with the adaptation worked really well and it respected the limits of the shows episode count.
That's what you get for going to the CR stream rather than niconico, though you've missed Ryo now.
Am curious about the Soubi Yamamto interview and Steve Blum panel.
It's a great way to start again on GAF since no one remembers names.
PdotMichael
Banned
The Tsuritama avatars are awesome. Too bad, just 12 weeks too late.
And I'm happy that I will never visit an anime convention.
And I'm happy that I will never visit an anime convention.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
You would betray Yayoi like that? You are a monster.
Is yours from Girls and
There's always other yayoi avatars to make, darkside. >.>
dakkumauji
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Can't wait for the re-release on DVD! Pretty ingenious of them to release a subbed version first and then find someone to dub it.
Yuru Yuri 3-4
3 was pretty good. 4 not so much. I wish that white-haired girl wasn't in this show cause she's ruining every scene she's in.
The jokes are pretty hit or miss but to the show's credit when it hits it hits hard. The end to episode 3 was pretty awesome in that regard. Kyoko seems to be the main purveyor of all the good jokes, whether its her and Yui or her and Ayano. Yui plays the stock dependable girl well enough. Chinatsu is just sort of there so far. I dunno, I guess after watching Kuuko muck about for twelve weeks this less manic sort of yuribait here isn't doing anything for me on the comedy side of things.
If Nichijou is funny 20% of the time then this show is somewhere in the area of eh, 50-60% or so?
3 was pretty good. 4 not so much. I wish that white-haired girl wasn't in this show cause she's ruining every scene she's in.
The jokes are pretty hit or miss but to the show's credit when it hits it hits hard. The end to episode 3 was pretty awesome in that regard. Kyoko seems to be the main purveyor of all the good jokes, whether its her and Yui or her and Ayano. Yui plays the stock dependable girl well enough. Chinatsu is just sort of there so far. I dunno, I guess after watching Kuuko muck about for twelve weeks this less manic sort of yuribait here isn't doing anything for me on the comedy side of things.
If Nichijou is funny 20% of the time then this show is somewhere in the area of eh, 50-60% or so?
Why put effort and thought into developing a character when there's always an easier route to take? Amirite?
Dedication Through Light
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OF COURSE!!!! Finally, I cant wait to see whom voices Rin and Renzou Shima, oh they will be announcing their cast too! So much great news today
Dedication Through Light
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Accel World 12
Exposition between just Scarlet Rain and Black Lotus was kind of boring as usual, but
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I liked the action and was actually pleased with
Exposition between just Scarlet Rain and Black Lotus was kind of boring as usual, but
she really just accepted her back even after being blasted by her, what even Kuroyukihime?! The sob story wasn't even that good
I liked the action and was actually pleased with
Cyan Pile's return, was so afraid Taku lost Brain burst but I forgot the recovery rule as well as that glorious finishing move Judgmento Blow and the Transition Time
Nakamura rules, Watanabe drools. I think that's about it.
PdotMichael
Banned
Yes, and after the first chapter of the manga I can say that Yukari is my tank waifu!
Chet Rippo
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Nothing really, save for maybe cajunator being banned in the last spring thread.
hosannainexcelsis
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It's understandable why Sen thought there would be permanent damage, considering what the doctor said. Of course, I agree that it ended up being a cop-out, and the lack of regard the narrative showed for what Sachiko and her family went through is kind of shocking. This may be a controversial statement, but Key has handled similar events better.
Both Wandering Son and Usagi Drop last year were really successful in how they adapted their source material. They had more volumes of manga to pull from than Kids on the Slope, but found sections they could extract to make a successful stand-alone package without feeling rushed or disjointed. It's really puzzling that Watanabe chose the path he did, especially since with minor alterations the events of episode 7 could have made a very satisfying ending.
AnimeGAFfers finding religion with Happy Science.
Ultimadrago
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Gintama 1
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*cough cough*
Well, at least it was better than an average episode of Nyarko-san.
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*cough cough*
Well, at least it was better than an average episode of Nyarko-san.
Fixed.
It does improve as it goes on, but either you get the humor or your don't. In most cases, it's the latter for me.
KO Traveling Hobo
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hosannainexcelsis
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Welcome back! The big takeaways from this past season are that Kenji Nakamura still has it, and Ayumu is the superior Watanabe.
I'll throw in the standard disclaimer here that Gintama does grow more confident in its handling of its material after the initial character introduction phase, so even if you're not feeling it initially I'd recommend sticking with it for at least a couple more episodes, or watching episodes 25 or 79 to see how the humor develops later on.
Chet Rippo
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dakkumauji
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Well the first episode of Gintama is pretty bad. It gets better in the next episode!
A Black Falcon
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I don't think that was his intent, no. I mean, in the manga version there is nudity through that sequence, so I'm sure some people will like that stuff, but I don't think it was really intended that way... it's more about the horror of what she's going through. I will admit that given that it is manga it could be meant both ways, but given the imagery there, and that she spends the next two chapters after that struggling with the aftermath of the attack, suggests that they were trying to keep the focus on the assault, not titillation. Does that mean it's not disgusting at all? No, as was said, it's that bad old "female character gets raped and it leads to character development" plot point. And that's true, and a definite problem. Even so though, there's certainly a lot worse out there, particularly in terms of reactions and aftermath.
Anyway though, I don't know if there was actual sex that was retconned out -- no one's shown proof that things were different in the LN versus the manga. That would be interesting to know.
Also, as cruel as that part is, as far as sexism is concerned, I was at least as, or quite possibly more, offended by the events of two chapters after the attack, as I describe at the end of the post I link below. At least sexual assaults do happen in reality, unfortunately, even though that trope is a sexist one; in comparison, the usual sexism that later chapter defends is inexcusable. I mean, it's obviously far less violent, but that kind of gender-bias sexism is something more common than rape, and if you can deal with that in a society, I think you'd result in reducing the other one too...
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39353259&postcount=348
Yeah, this is right. The author's thinking was that old "rape as character development" theme. At least it wasn't the hentai one where the girl starts liking it halfway through, she certainly doesn't. But seriously, when THAT is praise, you know something is wrong with a genre...
Most certainly true. Do remember that the anime's actually more sexist than the manga and thus perhaps also the source material I would guess, but the manga's fairly sexist as well for sure. And yeah, there's no way he realized that there was another way of having a female character get character development.
But anyway, Yes, Sacred Blacksmith's basic plot concept of "Cecily wants to be a strong and powerful knight but because she's a girl and weak she always needs to be protected by Luke" is really sexist and offensive. And there's certainly no getting around it, it is the plot. And the writing doesn't get any better from there.
But she did.
Not like that!
Not for long. Trust me.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Is that a third studio on the franchise now? I wonder if they'll do yet another reboot.
This show is pretty amazing for what it is. The dub is like... atrocious at times, but I feel like it's better at being a space adventure show than Moretsu Pirates, and surprisingly, the main couple's on and off again romance actually has some chemistry behind it.
I don't think it had the same aims as Endless Eight, since this episode was supposed to basically be about coming to under :firehawk and the characters moving on with their lives. Endless Eight could have been like that, but I still think that Nagato is the main character of the franchise, so from that perspective, it's meant to achieve a different result.
It's so weird, because if this show was just better plotted, it could have been if good, at least an above average "one of those shows". The premise of the last summer together is a good one, and showing the friends spend their summer together before the group splits is fine as well, but it just didn't all come together. It doesn't help that the show seems to meander between the :firehawk and the wacky hijinks that the rock creates. I just can't help but wonder what the show could have been if SatoJun was directing it anyway.
At the very least, I'm glad that they didn't even try to explain the mythology of the rock. It just works, it taught them a :firehawk life lesson, and then they moved on.
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