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Summer 2012 Anime |OT2| Of Suspended Anime Due To Olympics

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wonzo

Banned
I bet there's a lot of CG in it! lol

(So random action scenes then? :p Although I suppose Universal Soldier was a sequel to Blade Runner, so why not.)
There's also a fair bit philosophical stuff but it's been ages since I last saw it outside of sakuga compilations up in the net. :<

Oh and there's CG used but I don't really remember it getting in the way of just how fantastic the movie looks.
 

Soma

Member
Ghost in the Shell

And as much as I like the world and the ideas, I can't imagine how they could drag this out to a 52 episode anime series. I'm not even sure that I'd want to check out the sequel because where else can you go after that ending?

I thought Innocence was an excellent film but it might share of the issues that you had with the first film. As much as I loved the film, the dialogue wore pretty thin after a while. Even so I think it's definitely worth watching even from just an artistic and atmospheric stand-point.

Also, it's one of the only anime films where I think the use of CG worked great.
 
Pokemon B/W Rival Destinies 23

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She's really into muscles.

The tournament keeps on going. And the opponents continue to be completely one note. It was Iris vs. Faux French Connoisseur, then a filler match, way too into Iris vs filler character, way too evil guy vs filler guy and Jerkface Trip vs everyone's favorite Bianca.

The fights weren't that bad. No wtf moves or anything really like that. There's just a lot of Pokemon muscle porn going on here.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
There's also a fair bit philosophical stuff but it's been ages since I last saw it outside of sakuga compilations up in the net. :<

Oh and there's CG used but I don't really remember it getting in the way of just how fantastic the movie looks.


I thought Innocence was an excellent film but it might share of the issues that you had with the first film. As much as I loved the film, the dialogue wore pretty thin after a while. Even so I think it's definitely worth watching even from just an artistic and atmospheric stand-point.

Also, it's one of the only anime films where I think the use of CG worked great.

Well, maybe I'll check it out some time before I give up on the idea altogether. lol
 
Ghost in the Shell
Glad you enjoyed it! I have the same issue with it that you brought up: exposition dumps. It's unfortunate that much of it is necessary to properly flesh out the concepts and information to the point where it's worth examining, but I didn't mind it too much. It's clunky, but it's a nice departure from other movies/ovas that don't bother explaining anything within a reasonable amount to the viewer. Having seen the Stand Alone Complex series 1 before ever watching the movie definitely softened the blow for understanding jargon and how some elements operated in the world.

And as much as I like the world and the ideas, I can't imagine how they could drag this out to a 52 episode anime series. I'm not even sure that I'd want to check out the sequel because where else can you go after that ending?
I hope this gets a good answer because that's one reason I'd been tentative about finally getting around to the sequel.
I'm not sure if I could recommend it with great enthusiasm.
On one hand, it has some really great visuals and tone, but the amount of never-ending philosophical nonsense spewed by every character throughout the movie is difficult to weather. It felt much more like it was meant to be a novel instead of a film. That said, if you like Batou and wouldn't mind spending a little more time in the GitS universe, I think it would be worth investigating. Just be prepared for a much slower and tedious film than the first one.

The two seasons of Stand Alone are their own separate stories from the film, and they are pretty good. I much prefer the first season's overarching plot, but the second had some good episodes that looked at teammates on an individual level. However, I felt the second season's overarching plot was far weaker in comparison to the first.
 

Narag

Member
Mardock Scramble: The Second Combustion

I enjoyed this far better than the first in spite of the stuff like ugly CG roulette or talking heads (lol). The first never really grabbed me but this worked for me. I'm not so sure resolution of the first act, as it were, should have been the opening of the second movie as the cliffhanger of the first movie seemed like an unnatural stopping point. That issue seems to have been rectified in this one to give the finale a decent setup. I think I liked the dialogue a bit more too, I really enjoyed the casino scenes, and watched Boiled walk around being all hardass was fab. I suppose I'd describe it as a solid second act.

Negatives? There's a level of crazy that needs toned down as it obscures events and a story that should be able to stand on their own.
Shit like Paradise, the talking dolphin and associated dolphin love, the flying maneating sharks, and that ridiculous flying house were a bit much for me.
It's like they're afraid to tell the story without some sort of spectacle to use as a selling point.

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This grated too as there was apparently some sort of rainbow filter in effect that was just straight ugly. I don't remember it being used all that much if at all in the first (which in turn is an indictment of the first since I watched it this week and can't remember shit) but it just turned everything ugly. I assumed it's use would be confined to the setting it was first used in but nope!
 

Narag

Member
This mirrored shot is also used in Angel's Egg and, iirc, some promo art for Beautiful Dreamer (though I don't remember it actually being used in the movie.)

Oshii doesn't give a shit about plot, so, Innocence is much more about a deeper exploration of the themes brought up in the original. It's very different from and independent of the original, for better or worse. It's also fucking amazing - you should see it for the mansion scene alone, one of the best of his career imo. I think these movies do the Blade Runner thing ('what does it mean to be human' in a world where artificial people exist...or whatever) way better and more thoroughly/thoughtfully than Blade Runner.

I'm not sure if I could recommend it with great enthusiasm.
On one hand, it has some really great visuals and tone, but the amount of never-ending philosophical nonsense spewed by every character throughout the movie is difficult to weather. It felt much more like it was meant to be a novel instead of a film. That said, if you like Batou and wouldn't mind spending a little more time in the GitS universe, I think it would be worth investigating. Just be prepared for a much slower and tedious film than the first one.

Thanks for the answers. I'm eventually going to get to it but this sort of thing helps me decide whether it'll be sooner rather than later.
 
Gundam Wing 5

I wish we would stop focusing on Relena so much. Shes dull and gets in the way. Sure Dr. J told her things to develop Heero, but his development could have come from so many other areas. Actually, I don't even see what her significance in the plot is anymore beyond providing an entertaining scene
grabbing the purse bomb the lady left and then taking it back to her, made me laugh so much for some reason, lol

Trowa should have stayed with Quatre, though its nice Quatre got attached to him so quickly. And Heero and Duo still provide tons of laughs
as if he'd shoot at him, Duo should know better by now
.

The upcoming episodes have less of a focus on her for a while at least.

I've started watching this as well. Relena is annoying as hell.
Don't worry she gets much less annoying later.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
This mirrored shot is also used in Angel's Egg and, iirc, some promo art for Beautiful Dreamer (though I don't remember it actually being used in the movie.)
The mirrored image is such a simple but effective technique when it comes to introspection. It's probably why twins are a go to image/trope as well.
Oshii doesn't give a shit about plot, so, Innocence is much more about a deeper exploration of the themes brought up in the original. It's very different from and independent of the original, for better or worse. It's also fucking amazing - you should see it for the mansion scene alone, one of the best of his career imo. I think these movies do the Blade Runner thing ('what does it mean to be human' in a world where artificial people exist...or whatever) way better and more thoroughly/thoughtfully than Blade Runner.

So the second movie has nothing to do with the Major? It just seems like the first movie put it all on its sleeve in terms of where it thought the whole humanity thing should go.
Also, the first movie didn't have an awesome Roy Batty speech! No one there saw attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion!

Glad you enjoyed it! I have the same issue with it that you brought up: exposition dumps. It's unfortunate that much of it is necessary to properly flesh out the concepts and information to the point where it's worth examining, but I didn't mind it too much. It's clunky, but it's a nice departure from other movies/ovas that don't bother explaining anything within a reasonable amount to the viewer. Having seen the Stand Alone Complex series 1 before ever watching the movie definitely softened the blow for understanding jargon and how some elements operated in the world.
Yeah, there are just times when you just see it coming and it slows the film to a crawl. It just seems like the film could have been tighter if it trusted the audience a bit more.

I'm not sure if I could recommend it with great enthusiasm.
On one hand, it has some really great visuals and tone, but the amount of never-ending philosophical nonsense spewed by every character throughout the movie is difficult to weather. It felt much more like it was meant to be a novel instead of a film. That said, if you like Batou and wouldn't mind spending a little more time in the GitS universe, I think it would be worth investigating. Just be prepared for a much slower and tedious film than the first one.

The two seasons of Stand Alone are their own separate stories from the film, and they are pretty good. I much prefer the first season's overarching plot, but the second had some good episodes that looked at teammates on an individual level. However, I felt the second season's overarching plot was far weaker in comparison to the first.

Conflicting information about the sequel. lol

So, the anime does its own thing... but it doesn't even touch on the Major's metaphysical identity issues?
 

wonzo

Banned
Folktales from Japan 18

Once upon a time, emperors would NTR a man if he stumbled upon a beautiful drawing of the man's wife, ghoulish spirits would watch over fish stocks and ensure their sustainability and poor people would lay the foundations to the American Dream&#8482; by fighting each other over a theoretically large sum of money they'd have no hope of ever acquiring.
 
Gundam Wing 6

I think its interesting how some of the pilots basically spend time thinking of the other ones, like Duo just thinking of Heero, Quatre thinking of Trowa. Heero's internal struggle of
saving or not saving Ralenea
did add a new element to his character thus justifying what the doctor said. Great.

Though for speculation Im going to guess that Relena
is zecks daughter. Can be the only reason why the leader of that group called off the attack on her, and their last names are both peacecrafts.
 
Saw a lot of comments about this in this thread so I decided to give it a try. Got past most of the "awkward" moments but then I got to the mid-point of episode 6. I'm gonna get put on some kind of list for watching this aren't I?
 

RurouniZel

Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Saw a lot of comments about this in this thread so I decided to give it a try. Got past most of the "awkward" moments but then I got to the mid-point of episode 6. I'm gonna get put on some kind of list for watching this aren't I?

AnimeGAF: Adding people to government lists one anime at a time.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Kokoro Connect 4 and Sword Art Online 4 have turned into white knight shows. Does Kokoro Connect get a free pass because it has a character who is genre savvy, or is it even worse because
she falls for him anyway
?

Sigh, anime.

(I suppose a White Knight Chronicles joke is required here?)
 

Narag

Member
Kokoro Connect 4 and Sword Art Online 4 have turned into white knight shows. Does Kokoro Connect get a free pass because it has a character who is genre savvy, or is it even worse because
she falls for him anyway
?

Sigh, anime.

SAO is hopeless! Kokoro?
I think more drama will complicate stuff and keep the guy from having the girls entirely falling for him. That trust was formed on shaky grounds and it'll take just one uncomfortable event or untimely body switch to blow it!
 

kayos90

Tragic victim of fan death
SAO is hopeless! Kokoro?
I think more drama will complicate stuff and keep the guy from having the girls entirely falling for him. That trust was formed on shaky grounds and it'll take just one uncomfortable event or untimely body switch to blow it!

Wait what? How is SAO hopeless?
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
SAO is hopeless! Kokoro?
I think more drama will complicate stuff and keep the guy from having the girls entirely falling for him. That trust was formed on shaky grounds and it'll take just one uncomfortable event or untimely body switch to blow it!
It's just weird that in Kokoro, the guy has basically
built up a harem, but they have - at least up until now - avoided having him deal with the only other guy in the group in any serious/meaningful manner
.

Wait what? How is SAO hopeless?
It's pretty hopeless man. lol
 
It's pretty hopeless man. lol
What if the end reveals that everything was in Kirito's head as he dies from sleep deprivation and dehydration from playing an MMO for several days straight? And then a middle aged Japanese woman comes out and stares disapprovingly at the viewer while shaking her head?
 

kayos90

Tragic victim of fan death
It's just weird that in Kokoro, the guy has basically
built up a harem, but they have - at least up until now - avoided having him deal with the only other guy in the group in any serious/meaningful manner
.


It's pretty hopeless man. lol

Dude, you hate the show with the burning passion. Come on.
 

jbug617

Banned
Kokoro Connect 4 and Sword Art Online 4 have turned into white knight shows. Does Kokoro Connect get a free pass because it has a character who is genre savvy, or is it even worse because
she falls for him anyway
?

Sigh, anime.

(I suppose a White Knight Chronicles joke is required here?)

I think Kokoro will eventually lead up to
Taichi being the most difficult one to fix also I don't think the other 2 girls will end up liking him. It seems he already has a girl he likes and the leader knows that already.
 

Dresden

Member
What if the end reveals that everything was in Kirito's head as he dies from sleep deprivation and dehydration from playing an MMO for several days straight? And then a middle aged Japanese woman comes out and stares disapprovingly at the viewer while shaking her head?

Actually, the twist in the end is that
Kirito is actually an AI game master who only thought he was a real human being, and that when he wins the game, he effectively kills himself.[/spoilr]
 

duckroll

Member
Accel World - Episode 16

If they just kept the entire show in the game world, it would be a pretty solid shounen action show. Too bad they're obliged to adapt all the crappy real world stuff as well. Can't wait to see Silver Crow fuck shit up again next week. But judging from the preview, there are going to be dangerous real world scenes I need to skip in the next episode. Aaaaaaah. Lol.
 
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