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Summer 2012 Anime |OT2| Of Suspended Anime Due To Olympics
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Chet Rippo
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Kentucky.
Well its not worth fighting over THIS Shaft anime, but I would certainly debate about more beloved shaft works. Nise doesn't seem worth the effort.
Nope
WAIT FOR 8.30
Clearly we need a second BD version to clean up the cleanup. They're both creepy!
PdotMichael
Banned
maybe you should watch it before you say something about it.
The top half of that comparison is so creepy.
I watched episode 08. I think I gleaned enough from that episode to get a feel for the show.
Also I have seen Bakemonagatari and this show probably isn't much different (I liked Bake though)
Our condolences.
I can't help it. Senjou is just too much of a goddess.
Chet Rippo
Member
Is there a show cajunator hates?
So we should expect you back here when Kizu and/or the next season comes, correct?
I would be shocked if it shows up anywhere near GAF's cumulative top ten list for the year.
Bakemono is legitimately well done.
PdotMichael
Banned
That's wrong and you make a mistake but whatever..
Dusk Maiden was the best SHAFT anime this year, everyone should be talking about how much recognition it's going to receive in the 2012 poll instead.
I think he mentioned Gantz and Gasaraki once.
I think he mentioned Gantz and Gasaraki once.
Gasaraki, Eiken, Iczelion, Gantz
So would I. It's not exactly an accessible show.
Bake and Nise are both exceptionally popular. I would say they are more accessible than you are giving them credit for.
PdotMichael
Banned
well, the Top 10 were in the last years more troll charts.
whatever that means for Nisemonogatari
Theonik
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I remember a fake chart that listed a Claymore remake. I still wish the creator of it suffered a terrible life since that.I remember coming across a chart that had a sequel to Legend of the Legendary Heroes on it (Incredible Legend of the Legendary Heroes from BONES for the Fall), as well as Blood Lad, and Biscuit Hammer anime...
Kind of dont like people who make these charts though
I remember coming across a chart that had a sequel to Legend of the Legendary Heroes on it (Incredible Legend of the Legendary Heroes from BONES for the Fall), as well as Blood Lad, and Biscuit Hammer anime...
Kind of dont like people who make these charts though
One of them had a Yuasa show about some detective butler show which looked really cool. Then I realized it's a troll chart and got sad
I'm under the impression that Bakemonogatari is pretty hugely popular among casual anime fans that don't do the whole ANIME WAS BETTER IN THE 90s IF IT AIN'T BEBOP OR OUTLAW STAR I WON'T WATCH IT RABBLE RABBLE thing, but that particular subset of the fandom is a pretty big percentage of anime fans on GAF that don't participate in AnimeGAF so Nise isn't going to do well in the year-end poll at all.
Regardless I'm still don't get some of the hate for Nise, given both Bake and Nise are essentially the same show executed in very similar manners. I mean, if you disliked Bake from the start that's one thing...
I mean yeah, less Senjougahara but there's gotta be something beyond that, right?
I mean yeah, less Senjougahara but there's gotta be something beyond that, right?
lol
Saa, that's Clunchy's problem. (And if it wasn't why do you think I'd spend more time here when I had -less- spare time?)
In the sense that it is only good when burnt!
Nope. Less Senjou makes a big difference.
I'm pretty sure there wasn't much if any trolling in there. Unless you're just being a sore loser about stuff you voted on not making it.
I didn't hate it. I just liked it a lot less than I enjoyed Bake.
Actually, now that I think of it...
You guys didn't make even a single post about Bake 15 when it came out. Why are you interested now?
PoeticProse22
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Natsuyuki Rendezvous 8
Unfortunately, once again, this really felt like a decent, but narratively underwhelming, episode, and it's noticeably starting to drag.
Overall, Natsuyuki Rendezvous continues to excel in it's direction and it's subtle mastery of a plethora of emotions, but the inconsistent characterization and increasingly tiring nature of the story has slightly, and hopefully temporarily, diminished it's once very high quality.
Unfortunately, once again, this really felt like a decent, but narratively underwhelming, episode, and it's noticeably starting to drag.
Another episode passes by without Hazuki returning to his body, which is rather disappointing. This growing sense of a standstill with all the characters and their development, save for Hazuki, has created a barrier between current events and what had been considerable progress in each of their lives before now. Perhaps it's a desire to throw emotions into a slight disarray prior to the conclusion in order to create a sense of mystery around what will happen, but, at this point, it seems rather unnecessary and contrived.
I was quite disappointed by Shimao's actions in the previous episode, and yet he still manages to make me dislike his character even more in this one. All Shimao has managed to do is force Rokka back into this emotional state where she is unable to move on; temporarily impeding, or potentially permanently ruining, all her progress and whatever development she may have had in her relationship with the real Hazuki. It remains apparent that he is nowhere close to truly knowing what is best for Rokka, and his selfish desires and complete disregard for Hazuki remain in such complete contrast to Hazuki's relative selflessness, that by this point I really can't be sure whether the show wants to paint him in a highly sympathetic manner or not, despite all the numerous flashbacks to his considerably emotional past. I liked the words by mini-Rokka towards the end that referenced the part of Shimao that desires for her to be free and to move on; I simply wish I could temporarily glimpse that aspect of his character more plainly in the real world, rather than feeling a sizable disconnect between those words and his actual state of mind.
Hazuki is easily my favorite character, and it was great that he was a bit less secondary here than in previous episodes. Thankfully, the storybook scenes were quite a bit more interesting and necessary this time around, considering the seemingly vital part Hazuki has yet to play in the conclusion of this story. His struggles and fears due to the temporary uncertainty of his future were deftly handled. The few memories of his past moments with Rokka were nice, as I miss the natural, but often awkward development of their relationship. I hope his return occurs soon, as he's the only one left that truly desires and understands what's best for Rokka, so it was good to finally see considerable progress towards his eventual return at the end.
One of my main concerns is that all of this confusion and emotional pain among the characters will lead to a rushed and unsatisfying conclusion. I was hoping for a couple of episodes dedicated to the growth of Hazuki and Rokka's relationship following his return, but I've become increasingly weary that their future development, if it's to be had at all, will be tacked on at the very end in a temporary flash to their future, or potentially left out entirely.
I was quite disappointed by Shimao's actions in the previous episode, and yet he still manages to make me dislike his character even more in this one. All Shimao has managed to do is force Rokka back into this emotional state where she is unable to move on; temporarily impeding, or potentially permanently ruining, all her progress and whatever development she may have had in her relationship with the real Hazuki. It remains apparent that he is nowhere close to truly knowing what is best for Rokka, and his selfish desires and complete disregard for Hazuki remain in such complete contrast to Hazuki's relative selflessness, that by this point I really can't be sure whether the show wants to paint him in a highly sympathetic manner or not, despite all the numerous flashbacks to his considerably emotional past. I liked the words by mini-Rokka towards the end that referenced the part of Shimao that desires for her to be free and to move on; I simply wish I could temporarily glimpse that aspect of his character more plainly in the real world, rather than feeling a sizable disconnect between those words and his actual state of mind.
Hazuki is easily my favorite character, and it was great that he was a bit less secondary here than in previous episodes. Thankfully, the storybook scenes were quite a bit more interesting and necessary this time around, considering the seemingly vital part Hazuki has yet to play in the conclusion of this story. His struggles and fears due to the temporary uncertainty of his future were deftly handled. The few memories of his past moments with Rokka were nice, as I miss the natural, but often awkward development of their relationship. I hope his return occurs soon, as he's the only one left that truly desires and understands what's best for Rokka, so it was good to finally see considerable progress towards his eventual return at the end.
One of my main concerns is that all of this confusion and emotional pain among the characters will lead to a rushed and unsatisfying conclusion. I was hoping for a couple of episodes dedicated to the growth of Hazuki and Rokka's relationship following his return, but I've become increasingly weary that their future development, if it's to be had at all, will be tacked on at the very end in a temporary flash to their future, or potentially left out entirely.
Overall, Natsuyuki Rendezvous continues to excel in it's direction and it's subtle mastery of a plethora of emotions, but the inconsistent characterization and increasingly tiring nature of the story has slightly, and hopefully temporarily, diminished it's once very high quality.
Femmeworth
Banned
SHAFT has no integrity when it comes to their Blu-ray changes. Not that I completely agree with duckroll about revisionism.
Oh you.
Really uneven pacing, took tasteless fanservice to new levels, turned Koyomi into an out-and-out raging pedophile, bad haircuts, the two-episode "waifu grand tour", and so on. It was a much less tight production than the original.
There was that Idolm@ster conspiracy but that was about it.
Here's a better question, is there a show Cajunator would give a 1/10?
There was no conspiracy, tho.
Chet Rippo
Member
Oh...
Koyomi always had perverted impulses, but it wasn't until Nise that he ceased to even bother attempting to repress them and they consumed him entirely. He was a much more balanced character in Bake.
No one is arguing that Bakemonogatari lacks objectionable content, only that it was much easier to look past it due to an abundance of positive content and the objectionable content's infrequency relative to Nisemonogatari. Sexual impulse, while pervasive throughout the entire show, is still mostly an undercurrent in Bakemonogatari whereas it's the main draw in Nise.
See above.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Huh. Shizuno had so little presence in her own show that I'm surprised she got votes at all.
chickdigger802
Banned
hmmm.... future love plus games are gonna look hot.
Unknown Soldier
Member
How she managed to beat two Yuru Yuris is beyond my capabilities to fathom.
More casual anime fans have an impact on the results. That's how Ano Hana ended up on the list last year right?
I found them to be remarkably different shows. Bakemono an exercise in exorcism and Nise more Araragi taking a casual tour about to squeeze familiar faces on screen. It's the difference between inner antagonists and outside threats.
I watched them around the same time. In general, not much of Nise really felt intellectually stimulating in the same way Bake did, although there were fleeting exceptions. I think the last and most conclusive summary of my disappointment with Nise was here.
Damn right they will.
Femmeworth
Banned
Doesnt suffer from Uncanny Valley either.
We haven't seen her valley yet to know if it's uncanny.
That's reserved for next month's demo.
maybe its more of a pillar?
There is nothing Japan makes that they won't use anime school girls for, is there.
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