R_thanatos
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now i'm goind to watch it to see if it's that bad
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Summer 2012 Anime |OT3| Where All the Waifus Are Made Up and the Points Don't Matter
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now i'm goind to watch it to see if it's that bad
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I suppose there could be a twist - everything is an illusion created by the fairies and it turns out that they're trapped in a video game!
Are there, though? I mean the vast majority of otaku fiction is pretty bad. I don't think KyoAni could make the "There's No Way My Little Title and Content Can Be So Derivative" kinds of stories palatable.
Jex
Member
Eh, there was quite a fair amount of CG actually, it was just used sparingly and correctly in most cases, which is a compliment to KyoAni.
"She actually thought I'd let her get married if she saved me from my magical wasting sickness? Gahahahahaha, joke's on her!"
Actually, I'm pretty sure you're literally talking about Sword Art Online.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Praising KyoAni for their mastery of visual work has become as cliché as saying Pixar makes great-looking flicks.
edit: Or, Nintendo and responsive and relatively bug-free video games.
Basileus777
Member
Durarara 18-End
I had long put off finishing this show, and now I remember why. It has a host of problems, but what grated me most was its complete lack of subtlety. Durarara is a show afraid to let the visuals speak for themselves. It couldn't just have a shot of someone looking lonely in the city, it needed to have 30 seconds of narration describing how that person was lonely in the most banal, pretentious, and anvilicious way possible. The narration in the show was awful, it conveyed redundant information that the visuals already provided and I felt insulted that they had to spell every single thing out. Introspection is fine, but the way they chose to present that in these final episodes (and the show as a whole) was a very poor, and it just made me want to skip any section where someone started to naval gaze.
I had long put off finishing this show, and now I remember why. It has a host of problems, but what grated me most was its complete lack of subtlety. Durarara is a show afraid to let the visuals speak for themselves. It couldn't just have a shot of someone looking lonely in the city, it needed to have 30 seconds of narration describing how that person was lonely in the most banal, pretentious, and anvilicious way possible. The narration in the show was awful, it conveyed redundant information that the visuals already provided and I felt insulted that they had to spell every single thing out. Introspection is fine, but the way they chose to present that in these final episodes (and the show as a whole) was a very poor, and it just made me want to skip any section where someone started to naval gaze.
Hyouka End + Retrospective
. It slotted itself in well with the way the show operates and the tone it shoots for, although obviously the mystery here is secondary at best. Oreki's personality growth is showcased well without ever being flaunted; perfect for the show's subtle nature.
And really just wow, I know everyone has talked to death about this episode but it just bears repeating how astoundingly gorgeous this episode. There are two sides to the show, one bustling and busy and the other calming and relaxed that are both captured to their fullest.
I came to really love this show, and I do find myself wondering just how I'd feel if I went back to the episodes I found myself cooler to. Ultimately there was a lot to like about Hyouka, it's often finely crafted, and that's something that the viewer can just sort of sit back and relish in as the show urges you to come along rather than bluntly pushing with its narrative. Sometimes it's maybe too delicate with the way it handles things, and the here and now don't necessarily seem as impactful as they should as the character focus was sometimes lost. This issue really waned as things built more though and spending time with the characters became something more enjoyable as familiarity with them increased. I feel somewhat awkward saying this, but there is something like a friendship built with the main cast.
The stories being focused on did improve though over the course of the series, partly as the school was turned on its head but also as the setting of the school was left entirely. Setting really can be a powerful tool, and its something that I think really wound up being a drag on Hyouka at times if normalcy just kicked in too hard and everything sort of became cooped up.
Maybe because of this, I'm sort of glad to see things go. I get where things are going, and don't feel the need to see this go on forever. I'm more interested to see where KyoAni goes that's new than see every detail of Hyouka plundered, but what we have I really do like a good deal.
A most subdued finale, but certainly fitting. There really is something wholly placating about this show. It's so unusual for there to be a culprit and
nothing is really done to apprehend or even confront them
And really just wow, I know everyone has talked to death about this episode but it just bears repeating how astoundingly gorgeous this episode. There are two sides to the show, one bustling and busy and the other calming and relaxed that are both captured to their fullest.
I came to really love this show, and I do find myself wondering just how I'd feel if I went back to the episodes I found myself cooler to. Ultimately there was a lot to like about Hyouka, it's often finely crafted, and that's something that the viewer can just sort of sit back and relish in as the show urges you to come along rather than bluntly pushing with its narrative. Sometimes it's maybe too delicate with the way it handles things, and the here and now don't necessarily seem as impactful as they should as the character focus was sometimes lost. This issue really waned as things built more though and spending time with the characters became something more enjoyable as familiarity with them increased. I feel somewhat awkward saying this, but there is something like a friendship built with the main cast.
The stories being focused on did improve though over the course of the series, partly as the school was turned on its head but also as the setting of the school was left entirely. Setting really can be a powerful tool, and its something that I think really wound up being a drag on Hyouka at times if normalcy just kicked in too hard and everything sort of became cooped up.
Maybe because of this, I'm sort of glad to see things go. I get where things are going, and don't feel the need to see this go on forever. I'm more interested to see where KyoAni goes that's new than see every detail of Hyouka plundered, but what we have I really do like a good deal.
Hyouka 22
So excellent. Hyouka has been lights-out quality through the entire summer season, and this episode was no exception. It was a great and fitting conclusion. I'm very happy with the show as a whole.
It really shows what good art and direction can do to relatively basic material.
So excellent. Hyouka has been lights-out quality through the entire summer season, and this episode was no exception. It was a great and fitting conclusion. I'm very happy with the show as a whole.
It really shows what good art and direction can do to relatively basic material.
chickdigger802
Banned
logh 25
Wait, if the other guy becomes leaders of the Imperial... why would there still be war?
Wait, if the other guy becomes leaders of the Imperial... why would there still be war?
Actually, you reminded me that, amidst all the visual splendor, there was one rather bad-looking CG umbrella in the final episode.
Not only does it look bad, I was at a loss for why they did it. The umbrella remains static in this shot, and the handle itself is hand-drawn. I'm curious as to why they used CGI here when it added nothing.
I think they already did that with Munto.
Maka Wuhu...
chickdigger802
Banned
smile precure 31
Weird the whole powerup for candy was a
?
Pretty rare.
Can't wait for
next week!
Weird the whole powerup for candy was a
debuff
Pretty rare.
Can't wait for
dead eyes
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
I can atleast understand the project proposal for SAO. Source material is relatively popular and another of Kawahara's works was going to be animated. Not to mention the components of the show itself such as sword fighting and the whole MMO component. I have no clue how Hyouka got pitched, it must have been one life-altering project proposal.
I'm sure there was. However it didn't stick out to me like Fate/Zero's, or even worse like Rinne's, so I didn't mind it. I have no issue with CG in principle, the problem is that shows sometimes seem to use it for no good artistic reason and in spades.
Was Munto that well animated? I didn't see much of it but it didn't stand out to me that much.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
I'd guess corner-cutting in most cases.
Dunno, never watched it. Just in the sense of it being someone's pet project.
Concept art of Chitanda going "I'M CURIOUS" and Oreki's "Kyon" face.
Jex
Member
Yeah, that was literally disgusting. I threw up everywhere.
I was more confused than disgusted. It felt like a SHAFT staffer snuck into the studio at midnight and pasted the digital umbrella onto that one shot before the tapes went out.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Maybe it was a pick-up shot they realised they were missing five minutes from the deadline and just threw something they had in the database?
Jex
Member
Yes, there are. Only a small percentage of stories produced in Japan are for that otaku niche. I think it's important to remember that all the other literary and creative works Japan produces aren't for that one niche. Hyouka comes from a different tradition, one that presumably has lots of other worthy stories.
Jex
Member
Ah but praising KyoAni for their CG work is different than praising them for their (obviously) great traditional animation. Quite a few studios can pull of traditional animation well, very few understand how to implement CG in a subtle and effective manner to enhance the visuals rather than detract from them. You rarely see a "CG umbrella" scenario from KyoAni.
I remember the CG crowds in the early festival eps bugging the hell outta me.
True, but KyoAni also has produce works that will sell in relatively large numbers in the current market.
I'd like to see them expand their range, but they may be snakebit after the failures of Munto and Nichijou.
chickdigger802
Banned
LOGH 25
man, shit is getting deep. Not all battles are fought on the field eh?
AND WTF HAPPENED TO THE ART???
man, shit is getting deep. Not all battles are fought on the field eh?
AND WTF HAPPENED TO THE ART???
Who the fuck are you?
Did they even use CG crowds outside of the extreme long shots?
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Watch the next episode NOW.
Rinne no Langrange 23-
Are they eating hamburgers as people are dying?
I also can't believe that they negated one of the few decent moments in the show
. It really seems like the studio doesn't give a fuck anymore with all the CG everywhere and want it over as quickly as possible.
Are they eating hamburgers as people are dying?
I also can't believe that they negated one of the few decent moments in the show
with Villagulio not being dead
Gotta eat.
probably because they are hemmorrhaging money.
I remember the CG crowds being far more prominent than usual in the scene with Oreki looking down on the school festival via an open window in a hallway. I don't have the episodes on me to check but I'm pretty sure it was either 12 or 13.
chickdigger802
Banned
LOGH 26
GOD DAMN!
HOLY SHIT.
That symbolism, with the fleets.
And dude been sitting in that room for like a month lol!
god damn... show is like only 1/4 done.
Goddamn.
Nothing to lose.
Nothing to lose.
But why did the art change? New staff?
at least wenli still looks the same.
GOD DAMN!
HOLY SHIT.
That symbolism, with the fleets.
And dude been sitting in that room for like a month lol!
god damn... show is like only 1/4 done.
Goddamn.
Nothing to lose.
Nothing to lose.
But why did the art change? New staff?
at least wenli still looks the same.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Lagrange of the Enders: The 2nd Runner 04
There was also some boring shit about kings and conferences but I fell asleep through those portions. And the new ending is shite.
I watch this show for the hardcore sci-fi mecha action and intergalactic politics.
She is actually cute when she has some clothes on and doesn't look like a whore.
There was also some boring shit about kings and conferences but I fell asleep through those portions. And the new ending is shite.
Bigger episodes get bigger budgets.
Woah, let's not go overboard here.
chickdigger802
Banned
I don't think the art looked bigger budget... it's like a completely different person!
Dampen some of the 'holy shit' for me.
you might be talking about the stuff they redrew digitally for the dvd master
chickdigger802
Banned
could be. it's pretty night and day. rheinhart's eyes seem to change colors each scene!
I think an even better question is: why are they usually piloted by a single emotionally unstable teenager instead of a full team of military professionals?
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Budget has to come from somewhere in order to pay for the head framework.
chickdigger802
Banned
LOGH 27
Julian is now a badass eh? I do love how fighters work in this show. So maneuverable.
So weird that the cruisers/frigates can only seem to attack ahead.
Julian is now a badass eh? I do love how fighters work in this show. So maneuverable.
So weird that the cruisers/frigates can only seem to attack ahead.
chickdigger802
Banned
Why do people talk so much when they fight in anime?
Wasting your breath.
It's like giving a speech while lifting weights.
Wasting your breath.
It's like giving a speech while lifting weights.
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