Hopefully. All the fights in the series have been pisspoor. Really pisspoor especially by BONES standards.
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Summer 2014 Anime |OT2| Or, where Jexhius finally watches more Doremi for Hito.
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Hopefully. All the fights in the series have been pisspoor. Really pisspoor especially by BONES standards.
Basileus777
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They've put out like a dozen shows this year, Bones is booming!
Femmeworth
Banned
Now I'm morbidly curious. I mean, she did all three seasons of Bakuman after all.
Edit: Not morbidly curious enough to put up with those godawful character designs. Good god.
Basileus777
Member
Give thanks to Hisashi Hirai.
Tokyo Magnitude 8?
(given that they've only done about five completely original shows since the original DtB...)
I'm being kind to Un-Go by calling it an adaptation.
Also "shit tier" is completely different from "not brilliant". I would assume had I cared to watch it and liked the original Eureka Seven that I would think E7:AO was "shit tier", for instance, but although Star Driver isn't very good it's hardly got "shit tier writing", I'd reserve that for something truly dire rather than a bit boring. I know, internet hyperbole and all that, but...
Basileus777
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I hated Star Driver's writing, so it qualifies in my book. I can't speak for Tokyo Magnitude 8, since I haven't watched it.
Femmeworth
Banned
His designs must interbreed in his mind, which would explain why they have become worse over time.
Would watching the movie basically be the same experience? I can't bring myself to just watch clips from a series, though I presume the movie is much like that. *laugh* The brain is a silly thing.
Ojamajo Doremi Dokka~n! 40
This is to The Girl Who Leapt Through Time what Our War Game was to Summer Wars.
No, seriously:
It's made eminently clear from watching this episode that Hosoda had the most raw talent out of all the Toei directors at the time. It's no small feat when people like Igarashi, Yamauchi and Sato worked on this series; no wonder Hosoda was the one to make it big. From OGW and this episode, you can already see him veering towards the naturalism from later in his career, but this was still early days and the Ikuhara/Yamauchi influences are still felt. To be quite honest, while it's clear that he has not stopped improving as time went by and that Wolf Children is his most accomplished creation, I kind of prefer the more art-house and blunt feeling you get from this episode, Digimon 1999 or One Piece 6. The stilted close-ups, overt visual metaphors and gloomy undercurrent are so uniquely executed that it's sad he probably won't come back to this. I understand why, he's making mainstream films now and the way he approaches it is probably better suited for the kind of stories he tells in his originals, ones that would be successful with a broad audience. But his style at this point was just so much more interesting and unique.
This episode is just really masterful. It provides a more sensible and touching exploration of what being basically immortal in a world of mortals entails than the whole Queen plotline has done in almost a dozen episodes. Little touches like the postcard at first, the truck leaving at the end, even the voice acting of the woman being deliberately natural and low-key. The elaborate staging and repetition of layouts was used to such a superb effect that when the 'climax' of the episode came it was felt with a huge immediacy, achieved by simply cutting to a familiar layout.
More interestingly though, Doremi's state of mind ends flat-out unresolved unlike in the Onpu and Aiko eps. It raises a genuine insecurity which has been touched upon before in the show but never brought to the foreground like this, and Doremi herself was really upset by the end. I wonder how they're gonna wrap it up. Maybe with the Pop episode next? I doubt it though.
This is to The Girl Who Leapt Through Time what Our War Game was to Summer Wars.
No, seriously:
He even mentioned it off-hand in an interview!TokiKake
Doremi 40
Okay, so that's that.
It's made eminently clear from watching this episode that Hosoda had the most raw talent out of all the Toei directors at the time. It's no small feat when people like Igarashi, Yamauchi and Sato worked on this series; no wonder Hosoda was the one to make it big. From OGW and this episode, you can already see him veering towards the naturalism from later in his career, but this was still early days and the Ikuhara/Yamauchi influences are still felt. To be quite honest, while it's clear that he has not stopped improving as time went by and that Wolf Children is his most accomplished creation, I kind of prefer the more art-house and blunt feeling you get from this episode, Digimon 1999 or One Piece 6. The stilted close-ups, overt visual metaphors and gloomy undercurrent are so uniquely executed that it's sad he probably won't come back to this. I understand why, he's making mainstream films now and the way he approaches it is probably better suited for the kind of stories he tells in his originals, ones that would be successful with a broad audience. But his style at this point was just so much more interesting and unique.
This episode is just really masterful. It provides a more sensible and touching exploration of what being basically immortal in a world of mortals entails than the whole Queen plotline has done in almost a dozen episodes. Little touches like the postcard at first, the truck leaving at the end, even the voice acting of the woman being deliberately natural and low-key. The elaborate staging and repetition of layouts was used to such a superb effect that when the 'climax' of the episode came it was felt with a huge immediacy, achieved by simply cutting to a familiar layout.
More interestingly though, Doremi's state of mind ends flat-out unresolved unlike in the Onpu and Aiko eps. It raises a genuine insecurity which has been touched upon before in the show but never brought to the foreground like this, and Doremi herself was really upset by the end. I wonder how they're gonna wrap it up. Maybe with the Pop episode next? I doubt it though.
Femmeworth
Banned
Does that mean it's better than The Girl Who Leapt Through Time?
Stop it, Shergal. You'll make me watch this damn show if you're not careful.
(yes, I KNOW everyone thinks it's great and all that, but I just can't be arsed.)
Femmeworth
Banned
Sold!
Dedication Through Light
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Stop thats offensive to us Guilty Crown fans
Please apologize. I thought it was a great episode.Hosoda's episode is completely different in tone, directing and even content to pretty much the entirety of the rest of the show. I think it's the first episode out of the 200+ I've watched where magic is not casted at all (someone correct me if I'm forgetting some).
It's pretty self-contained in true Hosoda vein, just like his Digimon and One Piece entries.
The rest of the show is excellent, of course, but it's also 200+ episodes instead of just one
Is it too much to expect new OG BONES show written by Keiko Nobumoto? :\
Captain Earth really qualified for that in my book, its brought nothing new, incoherent, and worst of all fucking boring.
You like both, that should register as compliment to you!
Captain Earth really qualified for that in my book, its brought nothing new, incoherent, and worst of all fucking boring.
Stop thats offensive to us Guilty Crown fans
You like both, that should register as compliment to you!
Femmeworth
Banned
I want to check out Ojamajo Doremi but I don't know if I could put up with the image quality. Damn you Toei.
She's too good for the industry.
In one of the extra chapters
they reveal that Maa is actually a girl and her biting Aria's belly is some kind of weird sign of affection.
Only a few more episodes left!
Femmeworth
Banned
She was feeling particularly benevolent that day.
Edit: Oh, did her episode not turn out well? I was joking anyway. I haven't watch Cowboy Bebop or Wolf's Rain in a very long time, so I don't know if she really is a good writer.
Well, I wouldn't call this latest episode bad, it actually sort of worked unlike her other three entries which felt a bit sloppy and rusty. But it wasn't amazing writing either (which Nobumoto can definitely deliver). It's surprising that the newbie Kimiko Ueno has been doing a better job than the other more experienced writers like Sato and Nobumoto. (e: now I read that Ueno doesn't seem to be quite a newbie, so whatevs)
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Monogatari 17
One of thethings that confuses me about this series is that araragi pretty much seems to have pretty much zero consequence being a harem protagonist, while kinda not being one? He basically made out with 3 girls this episode and it basically amounted to nothing.
Also where the hell is senjougahara?
One of thethings that confuses me about this series is that araragi pretty much seems to have pretty much zero consequence being a harem protagonist, while kinda not being one? He basically made out with 3 girls this episode and it basically amounted to nothing.
Also where the hell is senjougahara?
hosannainexcelsis
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A better question would be: what was the last anime non-adaptation that didn't have shit-tier writing?
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Wait, no Barakamon this week?
Haikyu - Episode 22
Watching Kageyama's growth is really satisfying. The episode did a great job of showing how much he has changed, and how much he continues to change as he tries to improve himself as a player. It was nice seeing Oikawa getting more development too. Makes him less of a one-note super strong opponent they have to defeat, and more of an adversary with his own motivations and ambitions. That's one thing I've felt the series has done a great job of - there's someone in every team which grounds the competitiveness on a personal level, rather than every match being just an obstacle to get over.
Off the top of my head... Tsuritama maybe?
Watching Kageyama's growth is really satisfying. The episode did a great job of showing how much he has changed, and how much he continues to change as he tries to improve himself as a player. It was nice seeing Oikawa getting more development too. Makes him less of a one-note super strong opponent they have to defeat, and more of an adversary with his own motivations and ambitions. That's one thing I've felt the series has done a great job of - there's someone in every team which grounds the competitiveness on a personal level, rather than every match being just an obstacle to get over.
Off the top of my head... Tsuritama maybe?
Basileus777
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Space Dandy and Terror in Resonance aren't shit tier. So you don't have to go back so far. Though I'd agree that anime original works often have problems with their writing.
Nope.
hosannainexcelsis
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Well, I'd say Girls und Panzer, but Tsuritama definitely qualifies as an anime-original with strong writing.
That's not the impression I got.
Honestly, I can't really say the -writing- in Terror in Resonance is much better than say.. Star Driver, so the definition of "shit-tier" is kinda vague here. I don't think they're awful by any means. The writing on Dandy differs so much from episode to episode too.
I guess instead of looking at "shit-tier" we could look at what the last original anime was which had generally consistently good writing, from a strong start to a satisfying climax, which didn't showcase moments of severe weakness.
Yeah Girls und Panzer is a great pick too. I just didn't think of it because writing isn't the main thing I felt the show had going for it. Tsuritama stuck out more for me.
She gets some screen time in the next arc.
Basileus777
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Well as Duckroll said, the the definition here is vague, but Space Dandy has enough well written episodes for me to exclude it here, and while I'm not thrilled with the way Terror in Resonance has developed, I wouldn't go so far as to call the writing shit tier.
I have a lesser opinion of Star Driver than many, so that'd be the divergence here.
Going by this, Girls Und Panzer seems the be the best answer. Though GBF had pretty solid writing despite my problems with how the cheating angle developed.
I think the biggest problem with Star Driver is ultimately how it chose to conclude the story. it made a lot of what happened before it feel like a waste of time. If Terror has a more satisfying conclusion, it would probably be more fondly remembered in the future, especially since it's a thriller. I guess we'll find out!
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Monogatari 20
Noooo, not mayoi.
Despite all the weird pedo shit araragi pulls off on her, I thought she was a genuinely fun character with her interactions with araragi.
Noooo, not mayoi.
Despite all the weird pedo shit araragi pulls off on her, I thought she was a genuinely fun character with her interactions with araragi.
MikeHattsu
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Cool. Will watch.
seems like anohana director, character designer (tanaka masayoshi) and script writer (mari okada) are teaming up for a new coming of age type movie in 2015.
http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-26580.html
http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-26580.html
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Monogatari 21
Oh shit, a whole arc from Kaiki's POV?
Sign me up.
Oh shit, a whole arc from Kaiki's POV?
Sign me up.
if I'm not wrong she worked on the script of the season 2 episodes 2, 6 and 9. haven't watched 9 yet but 2 and 6 are probably the weakest episodes of the season. especially 6 which was pretty bad.
never watched Wolf's Rain though. should I?
R_thanatos
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Want me to post my screens fo SSO ? i have a whole bunch of them. Promise i'll keep the notsoless ugly ones for animegaf.
( still need to finish this anime ) ... ARGH..[22eps LEFT]
thequickandthedead
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Can anyone recommend an anime with really good Sakuga?
hosannainexcelsis
Member
Yes, Wolf's Rain is a powerful, soul-piercing show with strong characters and story.
Hyouka. It's got really good everything else too!
Femmeworth
Banned
What kind are you looking for? Movies are an easy source.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Monogatari 23
80's anime OP with kaiki and senjou is hilarious.
80's anime OP with kaiki and senjou is hilarious.
Arakawa Under the Bridge springs to mind.
Dedication Through Light
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Haikyuu!! Episode 22 - Evolution
Oikawa backstory was done better here than in the manga, while everything else was great. TsukiKage moments were my personal highlight due to how it fit in with the theme Evolution. A Tsukki training arc is needed though
All the king references work so good for both Tsukki, and Oikawa.
Oikawa backstory was done better here than in the manga, while everything else was great. TsukiKage moments were my personal highlight due to how it fit in with the theme Evolution. A Tsukki training arc is needed though
announce season 2 please, I want my powered up Tsukki, Bokuto, Kuroo
All the king references work so good for both Tsukki, and Oikawa.
Turin Turambar
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Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Monogatari 26
Wait.
What.
No.
No goddamnit.
Did they really kill off one of the coolest characters in this series at the last minute.
Arrggggggggh.
Welp, onto hanamonogatari then. I'm guessing that it's just the suruga devil arc tacked onto the end of monogatari? Monogatari was super fun though.
Wait.
What.
No.
No goddamnit.
Did they really kill off one of the coolest characters in this series at the last minute.
Arrggggggggh.
Welp, onto hanamonogatari then. I'm guessing that it's just the suruga devil arc tacked onto the end of monogatari? Monogatari was super fun though.
thequickandthedead
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Should've clarified that i'm only looking for shows. Movies always have great Sakuga.
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