He does have a point. Shading, toning, and lighting have really taken a nosedive in the past decade. That said, the idiot compared OVAs to TV series.
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He does have a point. Shading, toning, and lighting have really taken a nosedive in the past decade. That said, the idiot compared OVAs to TV series.
BassForever
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So are you saying you've never walked down the street and seen dozens of women of all sizes and races wearing bust showing outfits? Why is it that a girl can't wear a bust showing outfit without it automatically meaning that they have some lack of taste for quality female characters? Does every female have to dress like non combat Sabre to be a quality female character that has good taste?
Maybe not at the quality level they wanted. Black Bullet got funded but shit looks awful a good amount of the time. Also how often is it when the lead actually isn't Japanese?
This woman isn't walking down the street going to the store. She's fighting guys with a knife and a gun.
Anime studios and what not always say they're appealing to their audience because the studios need them to, they even alluded to this in their Kickstarter. When they get money they do the same objectifying thing they always do. I can understand why Canaan had a stupid sexy Alphard but come on. Why does the character here need to have a combat outfit showing how big her tits are?
hosannainexcelsis
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In the past decade? Hold on here. The nosedive occured at the beginning of the 2000s with the switch to digital, but the use of color and lighting has steadily improved overall since then. The best digital productions such as Hyouka make top-notch use of lighting.
how else do you pander to western audiences?
Hyouka is not an average work or even close to it. It's as close to OVA quality as you can get with a TV series. That's debatably the best animation studio under their best director putting out one of their best products. Fate/Zero had really phenomenal lighting too but exceptions don't make the rule.
Why do they have to pander? They're not losing any money technically with this kickstarter.
You act like they'll go broke when the funding already exists and is not from a studio.
hosannainexcelsis
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That's why I called it "the best", not "average"! But I don't see how you can say that the average TV show today has worse lighting than the average TV show of the early digital age. It has gotten better overall and that's a fact.
Shading is not inherently better, much of the best animated stuff (including, as Otaking points out, Western animation) doesn't feature detailed shading because it hampers the freedom of animators when it comes to movement.
As for lighting and colour direction, it has always been variable except for the understandable nosedive during the transition (and even then some great stuff was made).
As for lighting and colour direction, it has always been variable except for the understandable nosedive during the transition (and even then some great stuff was made).
Ah I see what you mean, I should have said the 80's not a decade. Mistake on my part. Getting old (lol).
Let say, will this much better than eps 1 of Blast of Tempest or Terror?
And I don't know how important foreign protagonist if the setting is Japan anyway..
In the end though this is actually my kind of jam, but the pretentiousness of the PR kinda piss me off.. Its not giving vibe to something that more fresh than such like Tsuritama or even adaptation such like Ping Pong and Hyouka and the message that they sending is like common OT poster that yelling about current anime.
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Ummm Canaan had those character design because it an adaptation of a bonus scenario of a typemoon VN with the main creators of typemoon Nasu and character designer Takeuchi, on board (Nasu actually worked on it). They didn't actually design those characters.
It's a fairly small list of animators who can animate well with lots of detailed shading.
Hence why stuff like Lodoss War could be incredibly detailed, but was often a slide show.
Yea I know, I was joking around. Star Driver is an exceptional work due to all the shading but that's due to the show having some/most of the best mecha animators still alive.
victreeb3l
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Watch it with me so we can both bitch at chickens
Date A Live II vol 5 details are up. 13 minutes of unaired footage in this one, which gives you nearly 2 episodes' worth of cut content across the 5 volumes. Also comes with a guidebook of some form. Release date is Halloween.
September 20th is the release of vol 11 of the light novel, but it also brings an anime visual guide / drama CD (cover above). The drama story is Spirit King Game from Encore 2.
Time for some corrective therapy:
*touches fluffy tails
Yeah you can. It did come out first afterall. Fate Zero wasnt even a thought yet, though its technically a prequel. Both shows can stand alone.
CCS never present any truly serious threats to Sakura.
Ladies and Gentleman (and Duckroll)....
If Kick Heart is anythingl ike Mindgame I really want to see it.
*googles Mind Games*
*googles Windy Tales*
What's wrong with your FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE
And people whine about Sailor Moon Crystal having derp face lol
Bonds breaking INTENSIFIES
but I still love you
Aw man. I loooove Mindgame, though it is certainly pretentious and preachy. But its so much fun to watch with absolutely crazy abstract animation. The "derp" is intentional as no one in this show is actually designed like a normal looking person. Its all exaggerated and over the top by design. Also sometimes they even insert clip art animation in there and it gives a neat effect. I love how Mindgame was done. It was extremely unique.
They gotta attract attention to get the funding and honestly I don't think if this was studio backed project the character design would be any different. Shit is probably what they think is a cool looking character that people will like
Kill la Kill's action scenes are still mostly wild flailing even on the OVA. Feels even worse when I'm coming off the well choreographed sword fights in Utena. The storyboarding on the KLK OVA is a low even for the series though, with loads of really claustrophobic closeups.
Wait who is saying this is supposed to represent anime? Are people using #saveanime tag unironically? The premise looks no different than like Lucy (random example that came to mind) or "action thriller X". Are we worried those who hate and like to generalize anime are going to go "look at them titty cartoons again" and throw a fit? I won't disagree that there are pandering elements here but they certainly aren't anime exclusive pandering elements (like loli or "oni-chan" trash). I mean I think its fine if you think it looks like shit but I'm not sure I understand your argument form the perspective you've presented.
AquaWateria
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Tokyo Ghoul Episode 10
Man Jason is one sadistic fuck. I mean in the manga he's sadistic but damn did the anime over did it. Anyways we get to see Banjo, who's definitely a great character especially in the manga. Also Ayato fighting his sister was cool. And seeing Rie voice Suzuya was nice, it really does fit his character.
Man at the pace they are going for Aogiri Arc they are either gonna leave it off with a cliff hanger or a anime original ending. Welp they are definitely gonna ruin the chair scene. Viz bring on the physical release of Tokyo Ghoul.
Man Jason is one sadistic fuck. I mean in the manga he's sadistic but damn did the anime over did it. Anyways we get to see Banjo, who's definitely a great character especially in the manga. Also Ayato fighting his sister was cool. And seeing Rie voice Suzuya was nice, it really does fit his character.
Man at the pace they are going for Aogiri Arc they are either gonna leave it off with a cliff hanger or a anime original ending. Welp they are definitely gonna ruin the chair scene. Viz bring on the physical release of Tokyo Ghoul.
firehawk12
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It's just ironic that the guy's pitch is that Japan is ruining anime with moe and here he comes with something that is equally problematic.
Admiral Woofington
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I wanted to say something when I looked at the kickstarter and saw a cute girl squad.
Technosteve
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hey did anyone order the little witch academy bluray from the studio trigger international store? Any idea on shipping cost?
Just a few more finished series from the extended sales list:
http://www.someanithing.com/2041
D-Frag! series average 2,561 (6 vols)
Sekai Seifuku series average 2,122 (6 vols)
Buddy Complex series average 1,161 (BD-only release, 6 vols)
Also, the Ano Natsu de Matteru BD-box w/OVA sells 2,503. Will be interesting to see the OVA's standalone sales in November.
http://www.someanithing.com/2041
D-Frag! series average 2,561 (6 vols)
Sekai Seifuku series average 2,122 (6 vols)
Buddy Complex series average 1,161 (BD-only release, 6 vols)
Also, the Ano Natsu de Matteru BD-box w/OVA sells 2,503. Will be interesting to see the OVA's standalone sales in November.
Kill La Kill OVA-
So first off we have the Elite Four symbolically answer for their sins that they committed earlier and I think this was a great thing on multiple levels. First it allowed Nakashima to show the progress the Elite Four had, in a clear and concise way. I also think it works great on the aspect that the audience remembers how the Elite Four used to act so it works emotionally as well. Then we have the fact that
Unforunately I don't think this was animated as well as it could have been. Again as with earlier stuff in KLK, the choreography was missing. So there is a lot of motion but not much of it is really dynamic. That said, the animation was much better as a whole compared to the TV episodes. There were some really phenomenal cuts with Ryuuko as well.
The big theme for the episode was graduation. Not only in the literal sense of students graduating from Honnouji Academy but growing up as people and moving forward. I thought this was actually pretty good as a theme compared to the generic shit in core KLK of communication and the power of friendship. The villain
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In many ways, this is what I wanted Kill La Kill to be. I wish this episode had happened something like midway through the series leading to an interesting 2nd half. In many ways the show was just missed opportunity after missed opportunity. Oh and background art was impeccable as always.
So some of you guys know how much I hated Kill La Kill near the end. I have to say I really liked, close to loved, this OVA. I feel it really addresses some of the flaws near the end of the show and while it doesn't rectify many core issues involving KLK, it works really well as a standalone piece. That's because of three main aspects; character resolutions, an actual theme, and finally all the mono no aware. All of it comes together in a really solid way and while I think the episode would have been better without the actual conflict, it does tie in really well thematically.
So first off we have the Elite Four symbolically answer for their sins that they committed earlier and I think this was a great thing on multiple levels. First it allowed Nakashima to show the progress the Elite Four had, in a clear and concise way. I also think it works great on the aspect that the audience remembers how the Elite Four used to act so it works emotionally as well. Then we have the fact that
the enemies have their own abilities so the Elite Four had to show their progress physically. This whole thing reminded me of the Anti-Spiral stuff, complete with 'dark' versions. I laughed that they literally were darker.
The big theme for the episode was graduation. Not only in the literal sense of students graduating from Honnouji Academy but growing up as people and moving forward. I thought this was actually pretty good as a theme compared to the generic shit in core KLK of communication and the power of friendship. The villain
being a person who is tied to the past working as a way for Satsuki to motivate herself was fantastic. Also the notion that all the students were tied together even if they're all going their separate ways was really strong stuff. In the way that Satsuki is away from all the students but she can 'see' them any time worked great as a counterpart with Ryuuko still suffering from Senketsu's loss. Ryuuko 'graduated' from Senkets but she also 'wears' him in her heart of hearts. Should mention that I'm super grateful that there was no Senkets, Nui, Ragyo revival
Finally there was an actual atmosphere. Holy shit. That's because they actually slowed the fucking pacing to allow things to soak in. The earlier part of the episode was much stronger in my opinion than the later half mainly because the mono no aware atmosphere could actually be felt.
In many ways, this is what I wanted Kill La Kill to be. I wish this episode had happened something like midway through the series leading to an interesting 2nd half. In many ways the show was just missed opportunity after missed opportunity. Oh and background art was impeccable as always.
hosannainexcelsis
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It's like Imageepoch's "We'll save JRPGs!" nonsense.
MetroidPrimeRib
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Yeah, I think so too. Last scene was pretty good though.
I agree, I thought the OVA was better then a lot of episodes of the actual series, and I kinda wish the whole show was like the OVA and not so breakneck but that's Imaishi for you.
Which is weird, because the only real OVER THE TOP CRAZY was in the OVA at the end.
Well joke's on me as I wasn't really paying attention to the interviews and what not
I'd still take UTD and stuff like it over your average moeshit though and I feel the vast majority of English speaking anime fans would agree Kill la Kill, as a series, wanted to be some kind epic pastiche that was retro while also being modern and cool. Unfortunately, it knew what it wanted to be but didn't have any real plan to achieve it other than just have a bunch of loud and perverse stuff happening and cribbing plots from old JRPGs as they rewrote the script on the fly.
When the scissor blade returned from space, it reminded me of the Spear of Longinus from NGE.
Lets check the magazine actually exist or not..
But damn I would create magz that called "BoyShit"
So last week RWBY finally added lighting. At least when the show feels like it, which means sometimes it's completely absent and other times 1/3 of the screen is tinted pink for no apparent reason. I have no idea what prompted this mid-season production shift, but surely this move is the final nail in hand drawn anime's coffin.
striferser
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Under the Dog doesn't look like anything special, from the video it looks a lot of the animation is CGI. So what's so special about the OVA? I backed Little Witch Academy because I liked the first one and wanted to see more. Why should I back it?
I only backed it because of Ando.
Technosteve
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Is Ando animating?
Directing
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Wait, I wonder if the plans for a BD box was the reason why Sentai couldn't get a BD release of the show last year. I would probably be willing to double dip if they do a new BD set with the OVA... but knowing them, they'll probably sell them separately if they get it at all.
(I also had no idea there was an OVA, but that's another story).
I just think it's funny that he's saving anime by basically making another anime. lolWell joke's on me as I wasn't really paying attention to the interviews and what not
But they used Alphard's model of big titted, tube wrap wearing thing. Would it be wrong to give her an actual t-shirt? Is that destroying the spirit of the character? It's these things they don't change on purpose or subconsciously and it's off-putting.
Femmeworth
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That was just to get the funding because otaku won't fund originality. The real thing will be completely different and a #gamechanger.
It could be a lot worse. :|
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