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Summer Anime 2016 |OT| Makes Me Happy When Skies Are Grey
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Cornbread78
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Go watch Konosuba to sooth the soul.
Did I just miss it or did Re:ZERO not get any hype before it aired? Shows like One Punch Man, My Hero Academia, and Mob Pyscho get hyped so much before they air because of the source material and I can't recall that happening with Re:ZERO. Kinda seems to have blown up because of the anime.
Cornbread78
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Everyone wrote is off as "LN Trash" before it aired..... Yes, it was stereotyped and profiled and for that everyone should be ashamed...
Now everyone is entranced:
Dedication Through Light
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easier for JUMP associated manga to get hyped then "transported to another fantasy world" LN #569.
DeadRockstar
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The novels only recently began publication in English, so that probably has a lot to do with it. There wasn't too much to be excited about on the staff side either. Although the director is a fairly well known action animator/animation director that's worked on Naruto, he wasn't a known quantity as a director and White Fox as a studio don't have that great of a catalogue. The other series you mention are mostly opposite to this situation in terms of exposure and production expectations.
Shake that booty! Hnnnggggggg!
hosannainexcelsis
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The impression I've gotten from reactions to Re:Zero is that one of the big reasons it has such a following is because it's viewed as a subversion of the typical LN harem formula - as in, the main character suffers and is killed again and again instead of happily being sexed up by all the girls.
NaDannMaGoGo
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I can do even better than that!
It's appealing to people who use 'protect the smile' increasingly unironically.
hosannainexcelsis
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I wasn't trying to summarize the entire show, simply describe one of the reasons I've seen people praise it.
Everyone wrote is off as "LN Trash" before it aired..... Yes, it was stereotyped and profiled and for that everyone should be ashamed...
Now everyone is entranced:
Yeah that makes sense. I just found it surprising, considering what happens in it, that there wasn't much talk even from the people familiar with the source material. I'm actually glad it played out this way, would have had less of an impact if we already knew it was going to be nutty beforehand.
names2hard4you
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I like it because it deconstructs
the whole scenario that we keep on getting from "trapped in a fantasy world" anime. The protagonist isn't a Gary Stu. He was set out to be one for us viewers, he keeps thinking he is one due to how special he is, and that just brings about his peril and that of the ones around him, since ultimately he is just being manipulated. Its grim-dark direction and near psychotic tone at times reminds me of PsychoPass, and that is a cool thing as well. Lastly I'm invested because of how well we know the characters. These loops worked in such a way that they fleshed out characters and brought out different sides of them going along with whatever Subaru is doing at the time. We have been through so much with these characters, even if a vast majority of that time is unknown to them. This is also an issue that leads to Subaru's madness and works well.
The first half of the first episode made this seem like a complete dud, something that wouldn't be attempting anything new. But from the way they screened a full hour for this show, to how many times the studio foes not hesitate to cut both the OP and ED, the acting and the animation that can at times be really great along with some brilliant direction, one can see that White Fox went all in on this one and it's paying off.
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The first half of the first episode made this seem like a complete dud, something that wouldn't be attempting anything new. But from the way they screened a full hour for this show, to how many times the studio foes not hesitate to cut both the OP and ED, the acting and the animation that can at times be really great along with some brilliant direction, one can see that White Fox went all in on this one and it's paying off.
I've never heard this phrase before!
I mean, it's true, but there's an awful lot of nuance to it that is lost by reducing that aspect as such!
SliceSabre
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I didn't read hosannainexcelsis' post as being reductive.
names2hard4you
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Would it work as well as it the 'duckroll bell' does? Or did, because I don't see it working as effectively as it used to.
John Blade
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Well... this is it people. Tomoya manage to ask Nagisa if she would marry him and she did say yes. Basically, telling you, they're for each other even in good and bad time which what happen in this episode. Also, another thing I like is the structure of this episode. It manage to get an arch of an character and the development of the main characters to work together as one which is what I want to see not, the earlier episode where it's literally arch episode for one character which stop any development of Tomoya and Nagisa from its track. I guess if they want to push another arch, they should follow this.
The arch is coming from Yusuke which is very touching as you start to realize how much he have to go through with his dream to be a musician and seeing the rise and fall during it. A touching ending I have to say when you see how he and Kouko know each other.
Another thing it bring up which they is hint in the previous few episode is Tomoya dad. You don't see him for a while but you got to hear a bit from Nagisa who keep asking Tomoya about his dad and if he tell him of what have happen to them. Unfortunately, this bring a bad side of the episode as he did something illegal which cause a massive rift between him and his son as Tomoya is starting to have a decent life in his work and was about to get a new job with more money on it. This end bad and kinda ruin everyone day, mostly for Tomoya. I am guessing Nagisa want to try to patch their relationship as much as she can as she want to see both of them happy like a family which he never have with his dad.
Start to notice this as but all of the arch you follow is the hardship between all the characters in the show. Whether it's truly all hardship will depend on the audience when they watch it. For me, it's Yusuke arch which click quite well for the situation Tomoya going to have to face. In a way, it might foreshadowing something major will happen between Tomoya and Nagisa as they're in the point of relationship where they will have to get through the good and bad time together like what I say about Tomoya dad.
Overall, a very powerful episode and now it's official both of the main characters we're following for a while is now going to marry for real.
Impression of 1st half of 2nd season
Now, my though in the 1st half of this season. If you read what I wrote for a while, you might have an idea of what I think of the show. If not, then I will say this again. Those arch episode are nice to watch but it didn't really push the development of Tomoya and Nagisa characters. In a way, it stall their development and push more the development for the other side and main characters. This isn't something I say it's bad as I like the arch they did in the last season but now, most of the characters who have the arch in this season is either characters who didn't do much in the show except as a place holder to push the story forward. It's weird to see they story even if it's very emotional or touching to watch as all you know of them are few scene when they're in. Still, I guess the creator of the game might have did this in the game so, it might make sense there. Just weird to see it here. I guess if they do the arch story of someone, it might be better if they do it as they're development the two main characters of the show as it will be more impact like Ep 12 with Yusuke arch.
I guess from Ep 01 till around Ep 08 is where you have to get through the arch and those slice of life episode. Once you get through them, you will start to follow more of the story of Tomoya and Nagisa as this is what the whole story is target for which is where it get very interesting to watch. For now, I think the 1st half of the show might be a bit weaker but it start to pick up now and I guess it will get very interesting and emotional right till the end. Hope it's worth it.
The arch is coming from Yusuke which is very touching as you start to realize how much he have to go through with his dream to be a musician and seeing the rise and fall during it. A touching ending I have to say when you see how he and Kouko know each other.
Another thing it bring up which they is hint in the previous few episode is Tomoya dad. You don't see him for a while but you got to hear a bit from Nagisa who keep asking Tomoya about his dad and if he tell him of what have happen to them. Unfortunately, this bring a bad side of the episode as he did something illegal which cause a massive rift between him and his son as Tomoya is starting to have a decent life in his work and was about to get a new job with more money on it. This end bad and kinda ruin everyone day, mostly for Tomoya. I am guessing Nagisa want to try to patch their relationship as much as she can as she want to see both of them happy like a family which he never have with his dad.
Start to notice this as but all of the arch you follow is the hardship between all the characters in the show. Whether it's truly all hardship will depend on the audience when they watch it. For me, it's Yusuke arch which click quite well for the situation Tomoya going to have to face. In a way, it might foreshadowing something major will happen between Tomoya and Nagisa as they're in the point of relationship where they will have to get through the good and bad time together like what I say about Tomoya dad.
Overall, a very powerful episode and now it's official both of the main characters we're following for a while is now going to marry for real.
Impression of 1st half of 2nd season
Now, my though in the 1st half of this season. If you read what I wrote for a while, you might have an idea of what I think of the show. If not, then I will say this again. Those arch episode are nice to watch but it didn't really push the development of Tomoya and Nagisa characters. In a way, it stall their development and push more the development for the other side and main characters. This isn't something I say it's bad as I like the arch they did in the last season but now, most of the characters who have the arch in this season is either characters who didn't do much in the show except as a place holder to push the story forward. It's weird to see they story even if it's very emotional or touching to watch as all you know of them are few scene when they're in. Still, I guess the creator of the game might have did this in the game so, it might make sense there. Just weird to see it here. I guess if they do the arch story of someone, it might be better if they do it as they're development the two main characters of the show as it will be more impact like Ep 12 with Yusuke arch.
I guess from Ep 01 till around Ep 08 is where you have to get through the arch and those slice of life episode. Once you get through them, you will start to follow more of the story of Tomoya and Nagisa as this is what the whole story is target for which is where it get very interesting to watch. For now, I think the 1st half of the show might be a bit weaker but it start to pick up now and I guess it will get very interesting and emotional right till the end. Hope it's worth it.
People definitely seem to like exaggerating with Re: Zero. It's better than the average adaptation, but it still falls for a lot of cliches, for better or worse. It's not like episode 1A was a red herring and the show is completely different than that. It still relies on humor and a lot of common LN tropes, but it still can deliver serious, and quite gruesome, moments. There are numerous times it focuses on the later, and arguably the last few episodes are dark, but the in between moments of peace, like the first half of the second arc, are not that different from a usual fantasy LN.
Dedication Through Light
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Cheer Boys Episode 4
Kaoru has arrived, hes my favorite.
Also Breakers has arrived!
Kaoru has arrived, hes my favorite.
Also Breakers has arrived!
8 X 11 Printer Paper
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Re:Zero is a better LN adaption then most, but then again most LN adaptions tend to be shit. Really I can only call Re:Zero decent since no matter how hard it tries, it goes back to relying on the troupes and cliches that all LN's of this type have.
Cornbread78
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1) There is a reason for this, and you will understand later, can't say much more, but everything that happened in S1 and in the earlier After Story arcs has a purpose, down to the music and everything... You will start to understand more very soon....
2) Yes, yes it does, things are going to start moving much quicker now and be very focused.....
I'm hitting it but nothing happens.
Re:Zero is not that different from other trashy stories. Pretty common to see the protagonist have to suffer a lot in order to make them seem like a good guy. Reference stuff like Charlotte, Beyond the Boundary, etc. where the protaganist can objectively be a bad person but through suffering endlessly they can redeem themselves. :^)
Yeah Re:ZERO's not a perfect show by any means. I could list dozens of issues I have with it. Some day, I might. Of course some of those issues would have some people yelling at me for "bringing that up again" or whatever, so maybe I won't do it here. 
That said, it just so happens that this is one of those cases where the good far outweighs the bad for me. That's not an "exaggeration", by any stretch. I genuinely like the show a lot, and nothing I've said about it has been untrue or hyperbolic. It doesn't seem that way with other people, either. Not that I've seen anyway.
Not intentionally so! But it definitely fails to communicate what's actually good - or at least interesting - about the show.
It certainly doesn't help that "deconstruction" is such a loaded and/or misused term.
That said, it just so happens that this is one of those cases where the good far outweighs the bad for me. That's not an "exaggeration", by any stretch. I genuinely like the show a lot, and nothing I've said about it has been untrue or hyperbolic. It doesn't seem that way with other people, either. Not that I've seen anyway.
Not intentionally so! But it definitely fails to communicate what's actually good - or at least interesting - about the show.
It certainly doesn't help that "deconstruction" is such a loaded and/or misused term.
demon meido waifu twins? feet licking? is this what you want listed?
Same, but there's never any Felt.
Cornbread78
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I like ReZero because it's entertaining and interesting.
She just showed up to tear the walls down...
She just showed up to tear the walls down...
#TeamFelt
sure
KazenY2J
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It was never really light hearted in the first place.
phoenix296
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Macross Delta 10
Sort of expected that. Still surprised.
Sort of expected that. Still surprised.
How do you feel about Kyubey? Puck gives me those vibes, man!
Cornbread78
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SliceSabre
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Crusch(green hair) is the only one of the girls trying to be ruler that has her head on completely straight and is reasonable which is probably why she's my favorite character outside of Rem. Plus if the OP is anything to go by she's gonna have herself some fun fighting the White Whale.
Oh and I watch Re Zero because it appeals to my inner edgelord.
Oh and I watch Re Zero because it appeals to my inner edgelord.
SliceSabre
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You're confusing me with TUSR.
If Re:Zero is about a dipshit who needs to at least do one thing right in his life to correct things i prefer other wastes of time and space like this guy
People like the cute girls and the show can do fine just by those characters even if i don't know their name.
I am not forced to feel bad for this idiot here. But i see the appeal of suffering and beating the odds eventually.
People like the cute girls and the show can do fine just by those characters even if i don't know their name.
I saw your tweets, dont lie.
8 X 11 Printer Paper
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Cornbread78
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But Ram is more of a sympathetic figure after finding out she is a victim of grooming. Rem is a woman of action, adventure and passion.
SliceSabre
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John Blade
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Note to myself, if I want to tell my GF father I want to marry her, I should challenge him for a baseball hit because......this is the best way to show how determine I am for his daughter in a game of baseball. This is how it happen with Tomoya and Nagisa when Tomoya want to tell Nagisa father about this. Man...talk about determination.
I guess the big thing happen in this episode is seeing Nagisa graduate from her senior. Still, she miss it again from her sickness but somehow her friend with the help with Tomoya, manage to bring all her friends she know current and past to her special graduation celebration for her only. This bring in might be the best part of the show where she tell what she want to say at the end of the senior. So touching to hear and did hit me a bit. Also, at the end, you got to see the conclusion of the marriage when they're now officially marry and have the ring to proof it.
Love the bit when Tomoya, Nagisa and her family come together and Nagisa drink for the 1st time and what happen next is funny to watch.
Love this episode as you got to see all the conclusion of the Nagisa senior high school and open for the real journey in the real world with the help with Tomoya. In a way, this might be the best way to end any TV show and I could just stop there. Unfortunately, they is more to go....let's go and watch to see where this show go now.
I guess the big thing happen in this episode is seeing Nagisa graduate from her senior. Still, she miss it again from her sickness but somehow her friend with the help with Tomoya, manage to bring all her friends she know current and past to her special graduation celebration for her only. This bring in might be the best part of the show where she tell what she want to say at the end of the senior. So touching to hear and did hit me a bit. Also, at the end, you got to see the conclusion of the marriage when they're now officially marry and have the ring to proof it.
Love the bit when Tomoya, Nagisa and her family come together and Nagisa drink for the 1st time and what happen next is funny to watch.
Love this episode as you got to see all the conclusion of the Nagisa senior high school and open for the real journey in the real world with the help with Tomoya. In a way, this might be the best way to end any TV show and I could just stop there. Unfortunately, they is more to go....let's go and watch to see where this show go now.
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