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Summer Anime 2016 |OT| Makes Me Happy When Skies Are Grey
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KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
I'm glad I never got around to watching Danganronpa 3 at all, because it sounds fucking terrible.
Hopefully this is the necessary purge so that V3 can actually be good and not be drowning in the worst excesses of the series that have come out in the last couple of entries.
Hopefully this is the necessary purge so that V3 can actually be good and not be drowning in the worst excesses of the series that have come out in the last couple of entries.
Basileus777
Member
The future arc is ok, it's actually better than I expected it to be. It's the past arc about the Danganronpa 2 characters that is a disaster.
And I'm not confident that v3 can break out of this tbh.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
DR3D is just the sour dose of
Its so much worse. DR3 Despair manages to retroactively ruin the twist of DR2 and the entire (interesting) setup for Future by
completely taking away all responsibility from the Remnants of Despairs because they were brainwashed. Now instead of being wrong, Makoto is right because it truly isn't their fault.
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You know I thought in the beginning that Danganronpa 3 was good. But then I was wrong.
But then I thought it couldn't be worse than the first anime. And then I have never been more wrong in my life.
Basileus777
Member
I agree with all of those criticisms and I'm still not sure that's enough. It's close though and both are absolutely terrible so I suppose there's not much point is ranking them.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
I'm not super confident, either, but I'll keep out at least some hope for V3.
I just want Kodaka to jettison all of this bigger storyline and just make the next game a self-contained story.
But every new thing that comes out makes me less and less confident of that.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Its still better then DR1...technically, I guess. I think I dislike Despair more since its just fucking everything up all over the place and theres no DR3 game (which is a good thing)
There are still parts I like about UDG, as bad as some of it is. If I look at what I like about Despair its -
1. Well, Nagito is still Nagito. Oh wait this episode ruins that too
2. Mukuro is in it
3. Uhhh...Gundham is still there but he's just a joke character who says a goofy line an episode like the rest of the class?
V3 needs to be a real kick in the ass. I still maintain that as bad as they are, removing the gamey parts of Danganronpa makes it not work. In Zero its fine because its not a killing game (oddly enough Future is better then Despair though...) and I really want to believe V3 will refine the gamey parts with the ability to lie system and having multiple people on screen in conversations.
But we REALLY need to get away from this Hope vs Despair, Hope's Peak and J**** stuff because its already way too played out, even if the first two games used it well.
nintendoman58
Member
I'm so glad I never bothered with Danganronpa.
Basileus777
Member
The two mainline games are good. Avoid all the side stuff and multimedia projects and you're fine.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
The first two games were great, and they ended just fine, so it's not like the knowledge that there's some other shitty stuff out there makes those games worse.
Full Moon wo Sagashite 38
And so we get a full explanation of how music has ruined Grandma's life. I'm going to pretend her husband died in an accident when he convinced her to go to a concert or something. Either way, it's understandable how she feels, but shutting people away from music won't do her any good if they choose music over her. Which Mitsuki also does. She may be an angel, but she's got one shot to go to America, and she's not a fool who will let that chance slip away.
And so we get a full explanation of how music has ruined Grandma's life. I'm going to pretend her husband died in an accident when he convinced her to go to a concert or something. Either way, it's understandable how she feels, but shutting people away from music won't do her any good if they choose music over her. Which Mitsuki also does. She may be an angel, but she's got one shot to go to America, and she's not a fool who will let that chance slip away.
Hellwarden
Member
Grimgar and Psycho-Pass are up on Crunchyroll now.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
As much as Despair totally wants to ruin the first two games, it can't. Despair is a case of trying to fill something in that will never work because its better in your head, and Future seems to be rapidly trying to finish up the storyline in a somewhat competent way. I want to compare it to the Star Wars prequels...but Despair isn't THAT bad. It's similar though, when you hear Obi Wan talk about The Clone Wars you go "Man that sounds really cool" and then they show you the Clone Wars and you go "man that fucking sucked." Although DR3 has a really awesome setup and is an extremely ambitious idea, its flunking it. I'll reserve total judgment until its actually over but as it stands the core dilemma of DR3 Future has been retconned into being far less interesting. Despair is even more confusing since DR Zero exists and theres like...1 despair episode left so ??????????? how that fits in.
I'd put DR2 up there with the Ace Attorney games (1-3, not AJ fuck that trash) DR1 has a lot of good stuff in it as well. Honestly they both have severe issues so if V3 can really kick itself into gear by being a soft reboot (to what extent who knows. I'm less confident that Kodaka can truly let go of the Hope's Peak storyline after DR3) and being available on the PS4 and not the Vita alone then we will have an actual franchise worth delving into.
Me and Basileus will disagree on UDG, but its honestly skippable. The gameplay is bad even by DR standards but the two main characters story is really good imo.
The DR Zero novel is pretty good. I heard those Kyoko books are alright too but they aren't translated. Everything else book-wise is either bad (supposedly) or not important.
The cuplrit's breakdown in this case is probably one of my favorite breakdowns in the series so far.
if UDG really just focused on komaru and toko going through the game fighting the monokumas and the kids it'd be fine, komaru and toko are a joy to watch interact. but the game's not just that
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
I also think DR loses a lot of its appeal by...not being a game, but not in the actual gameplay ways. DR has really good presentation and aesthetics, from the music to the voice acting to Monokuma's presence which is near none existent in Future to the way court scenes play out, its a very stylized game. Now the anime still has the voice actors and attempts to use the music but it just doesn't work. Yeah you can use this track and its still a good track but without everything else that accompanies it in the game it loses effect.
But thats enough about DR even though it has 3 anime so it technically should count in here.
Gimme V3 and don't kill off the Maid girl. I need to get back to Ace Attorney, that other good series with bad anime
But thats enough about DR even though it has 3 anime so it technically should count in here.
Gimme V3 and don't kill off the Maid girl. I need to get back to Ace Attorney, that other good series with bad anime
V3 will being a reboot really is our last hope. But even if it does reboot and it's great, what then? Will the DR V storyline just follow the same path as the Hope's Peak stuff?
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
I don't think theres much point in thinking about how things will go after V3 when we know so little about it anyway. Knowing Kodaka he might just go full Kojima so I'm tentative to even analyze any V3 stuff thats out there right now.
I mean you have a fucking gameplay system to trick people by lying in the game with Robo-Naegi in it. After DR2's ending I'd be more surprised if he doesn't do some MGS2-ass protag swap.
nintendoman58
Member
Honestly it's not so much the reports I'm hearing of D3 not being good that's turned me off (though it certainly doesn't help).
I've never bothered with the franchise because I've never ever even remotely enjoyed the "a bunch of people stuck in a death game, who lives/who dies" scenario in media. It's what initially turned me off of SAO before I learned about its other failings.
Despite how good I'm sure the writing and characters are, the overall tone is always just so brutal and depressing in that kind of stuff right from the get-go as characters die left and right. Becoming invested in certain characters is practically a gamble.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Yeah if you don't like the idea of that then it might not be for you to begin with. Its done fairly well and the murders and motives are usually poignant but DR2 especially is a really rough game filled with "Man they really didn't deserve this."
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Danganronpa's tone is actually fairly light for the most part.
Yeah, characters are dying, but overall the games are fairly lighthearted with a lot of comedy, and even in the serious moments it's going more into Ace Attorney territory with over the top breakdowns and the like.
Although you do have to accept that sometimes a favorite character of yours will die.
But in the grand scheme of things, I don't think the tone is ever brutal in Danganronpa 1 or 2.
Cornbread78
Member
Hey maybe a Psycho Pass Let's watch for all yhe Crunchy subbers and thise interested in the game that just launched, lol.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Wiat til someone decides to try and turn the Zero Escape series into anime!
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Yeah the mode swings around a lot but it doesn't feel annoying like in something like Full Metal Alchemist where the comedy is done with loud reactions and funny faces. It's kind of like a black comedy in the humorous parts, making light of terrible situations (usually from Monokuma) but the serious or dramatic moments are mostly done well.
There are plenty of brutal things about DR but the way its conveyed wont make your stomach turn from gore or anything. I'd say its more dread then anything.
999 would probably work but VLR and ZTD with their timeline shenanigans? That'd be hilarious to see someone try.
names2hard4you
Member
Danganronpa 3 Despair Arc - 10
Well that was a bit surprising at the start. So that's who he fell for lol.
Other than that uhhhh... This was lame and bad.
Well that was a bit surprising at the start. So that's who he fell for lol.
Other than that uhhhh... This was lame and bad.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Seeing as how that series has been on a massive decline with every new work, a Zero Escape anime might be one of the worst things ever.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
There was a forgettable promo anime for Virtue's Last Reward.
999 wouldn't work either for much the same reasons.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Speaking of Psycho-Pass, has anyone played that game? I heard it goes some interesting places that imply a lot about a S3, but I don't know what it is.
I legitimately want a 999 anime that has Junpei
die at the end of episode 4, and then episode 5 is just episode 1 again expect he goes in the other door. No explanations, just you died, try again.
I have actually never watched this before. What, there was a game?
StoneHeart
Member
Visual novel was released a few days I think
I didn't know you started a book club a ha ha ha h aha ahah haaha ahah ahaaa
Full Moon wo Sagashite 39
I joked earlier about how it would be interesting to see Mitsuki run away to America. But uh, that actually kind of happened. I must be a psychic. Eichi's statement that the moon looks beautiful and hides half its scarred body scarily on point for Mitsuki. Everyone loves Full Moon, not knowing the pain the real Mitsuki is going through.
I joked earlier about how it would be interesting to see Mitsuki run away to America. But uh, that actually kind of happened. I must be a psychic. Eichi's statement that the moon looks beautiful and hides half its scarred body scarily on point for Mitsuki. Everyone loves Full Moon, not knowing the pain the real Mitsuki is going through.
nintendoman58
Member
I can see how generally, the franchise would have lots of room for comedic lighthearted stuff what with the settings being a school and an island, but when the overall situation of the story is 100% "we're trapped in this room and we gotta get out otherwise we'll die" from beginning to end, it just never really means anything to me in the long run. Especially with the whole "DESPAIR" aspect of that one statement always being a massive focus. I feel like I'd just be miserable watching it, so I just don''t bother.
At least people must certainly be proud for enjoying Nisemonogatari.
Basileus777
Member
But no one is Japan cares about Uchikoshi anymore.
Though it would be amusing to see someone try to adapt a bunch of visual novels dependent on perspective twists.
One that straight up lied to the audience because there was no other way to do it in that format.
Cornbread78
Member
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Psycho-Pass is a show that loves to name drop books and philosophers with hardly anything to back it up as being substance
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Psycho Pass was a show that tried to stand on the shoulders of giants, but instead it just tripped and fell before the giants were even within its eyesight and then got bitten by a mosquito and died a slow, painful death from infection before even making it five feet from its home village.
Hellwarden
Member
TGS Berserk English Trailer.
Finally a chance to play as Wyald.
Everyone's favorite Berserk character.
Finally a chance to play as Wyald.
Everyone's favorite Berserk character.
Cornbread78
Member
Oh, lol. Nevermind then.
Nobody answered me about the shows on the top of the page though! Need ideas/feedback, lol
You know, since I've been shilling it to Cornbread before anyway..., I'd think you'd also enjoy Mushibugyou (it doesn't have mechs though). There are some dark moments (also visually) due to the setting bein Feudal Japan being attacked by giant insects, but in general I think it has a very fun and up-beat tone to it, probably mainly because of the main character Jinbei. He's probably one of the most 'pure shonen' protagonists I've ever seen, straightforward, somewhat naive, hard-working, determined, honest to a fault, etc..., but instead of that making him seem completely generic, it's actually pretty endearing.
It's not without some typical shonen fanservicey moments though.
I've actually rewatched the first 3 episodes earlier because I wasn't sure if my memories were still correct (it's been 3 years after all), and while there's a little more fanservice than I remembered, it's still a very fun watch.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
"Ah yes, The Soul of Black Folk by Du Bois, his seminal work. I am aware of its influence and prestige. Now, on the topic of hyper oats..."
every book conversation in Psycho-Pass
every book conversation in Psycho-Pass
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