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Summer Anime 2016 |OT| Makes Me Happy When Skies Are Grey

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Cornbread78

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We now have a new list of candidates, would any of the below work, or not work for the next "Let's Watch?"

-Mushibugyou.
-Ergo Proxy
-Terra e
-Jyu-Oh-Sei: Planet of the Beast King
-Xam'd: Lost Memories
-Beck: Mongolian Chop Squad
 
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That was probably the best episode of '99 yet, starring everyone's favorite clown. I still prefer the character art from 2011 tho.
 
The character art in Hunter X Hunter 2011 is fine.

However better the 1999 version may be doesn't automatically make the 2011 version objectively bad. Yeesh.
 
2011 pretty much just copy + pasted the manga panel and did extremely heavy shading but I think that looks better. '99 Hisoka's bloodlust looks kinda...goofy.

I mean in a few incidences I might appreciate the one or other 2011 design. But speaking about goofy...



Goofy is the term I'd actually use to describe the 2011 designs at large. Don't even get me started on the chimera ants.
 

Clov

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Funimation's December titles were revealed. Show by Rock is finally getting a BD release, along with Ninja Slayer (for some reason). Meanwhile Seiyu's Life is confined to DVD only hell.
 
I mean in a few incidences I might appreciate the one or other 2011 design. But speaking about goofy...





Goofy is the term I'd actually use to describe the 2011 designs at large. Don't even get me started on the chimera ants.

Yeah thats kinda just how Togashi draws. I appreciate that '99 deviates from that and a lot of the time it does look better, but I think in important moments 2011 mostly slides ahead. If you want to say Togashi's character designs suck in general then I agree with you, because they do.
 

Jarmel

Banned
I mean in a few incidences I might appreciate the one or other 2011 design. But speaking about goofy...

Goofy is the term I'd actually use to describe the 2011 designs at large. Don't even get me started on the chimera ants.

That's less of an issue with the character designs and more of an issue with the art direction, in particular the lighting.
 
That's less of an issue with the character designs and more of an issue with the art direction, in particular the lighting.

I disagree. The proportions are just generally more out of whack, causing the goofy look. In this case the eyes and eyebrows are humongous and the head appears kinda small for that large chest and shoulders, even if that may be in part due to the clothes.

Gon vs. Hisoka 1999 vs 2011 comparison video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5uVoqafQWs

I prefer the 2011 version.

I think I'd give the slight edge to 1999. Dunno if battle animation has much to do with character design though. Hisoka and Gon look fine there at least. Hisoka in general I do quite like in 2011.
 

Jarmel

Banned
I disagree. The proportions are just generally more out of whack, causing the goofy look. In this case the eyes and eyebrows are humongous and the head appears kinda small for that large chest and shoulders, even if that may be in part due to the clothes.

In the screenshots you took, the tone of both works is completely different. I haven't watched the 1999 version but it overall looks more serious compared to the general lightheared goofiness of the 2011 version.
 
In the screenshots you took, the tone of both works is completely different. I haven't watched the 1999 version but it overall looks more serious compared to the general lightheared goofiness of the 2011 version.

Well, it's not like they don't try to portrait roughly the same atmosphere and tone. They're fairly close adaptations after all.

However, at least as far as I've seen 1999, which is a bit further than the end of the hunter exam arc, the direction is simply far better there.

It's not just the character design of course. The general art direction differs quite substantially. But still, the 2011 character designs look like ass, whether in comparison to 1999 or just generally.

Here's the article that got me interested in actually watching 1999, besides having seen some clips that looked much better than I imagined, given the praise I've heard for 2011 over 1999 for a long time.


Again, they exaggerated the more unique aspects to the point where it just looks hella goofy.
 

Jarmel

Banned
Honestly if I was being more critical as I'm going through HunterxHunter 2011, I would be ripping apart the art direction and general direction. The art direction is essentially mediocre with little sense of dramatic lighting or lighting in general. That said, this is a common complaint of most modern productions now anyways. I kind of see why it's done like this, in that the bright lighting facilitates the comedic tone the show is almost always striving towards. Watching this reminds me of FMA Brotherhood in that it brings up many of the Brotherhood criticisms. This is especially the case when you look at the art direction of the 1999 version in that the lighting makes that work generally look more serious. This is in addition to the exaggerated reaction faces and whatnot. Everything about the art direction is fairly basic such as the coloring, shading, or most of the background art. Case in point, the coloring is largely vibrant so as to reflect the 'energy' of the work however all the coloring in the show is like this so the palette can come across as somewhat monotone. I imagine another reason the staff took this stylistic approach too, besides the tone, was to make animation easier such as for the fights.

It's a fairly lighthearted story in how it's told even if there's a serious undercurrent in it. For example I literally did not know Kastro had died in his fight with Hisoka until episodes later because of how his final scene was presented. This has to do more with the general direction and pacing in that serious moments are kind of sped past or underplayed. This probably rubs some people the wrong way but I feel it works fine for being an action-adventure sort of story.
 

XiaNaphryz

LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Interesting... fans in Japan are afraid of being seen enjoying Love Live the most...

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lol

Japanese site Sirabee asked its readers which anime they wouldn't want to be known to enjoy... whether the anime might make them look like a loner otaku, a lolicon or a little kid. From about 1,500 votes, top picks included:

10. Girls und Panzer
9. Bakemonogatari
8. The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya
6 (tie). Love, Chunibyo & Other Delusions
6 (tie). Lucky Star
5. To Love-Ru
4. Card Captor Sakura
2 (tie). The Idolmaster
2 (tie). K-On!
1. Love Live!
 
Danganronple 3 watching this crap fills me with despair 10

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Imagine the worst, lamest and laziest way this could have happened you thought of when this was announced and I guarantee this is still worse. If you looked at this and said "Well, this will retroactively make DR2 worse" then you have noooooooo idea.

Kodaka manages to take pointless torture porn and combine it with
Chiaki Christ dying being the reason everyone goes despair cuz of a video IN ONE FEL SWOOP.

actually worse then MIND HACC
 
Ace Attorney 6 Case 2

I can't believe we had another case on the freaking
Gramarye family. Why is Trucy's biological family so much trouble? I thought the series was gonna sprint away from these things as fast it could be honest.

That all said, it was a good case. Much improved over the intro case. I like how the little changes to Trucy's appearance makes her look older. I like how Apollo has gained confidence. I like how they didn't overuse the team's abilities too much.
 
Interesting... fans in Japan are afraid of being seen enjoying Love Live the most...

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to love ru only at #5? joke list.

I was browsing ANN and I went and read through the comments of the new pokemon anime and boy even tho it looks so good all those comments are killing me inside :(

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3050132

The worst is I am sure 90% of the comments don't even watch pokemon anymore.

"Oh God what is this ugly animation you can tell toei animation really doesn't care about the pokemon anime."

Man, ANN is great.
 
I really should watch Hunter x Hunter '99 . The 2011 version was so good, but I heard good things about the '99 version too, Especially the hunter exam arc.
 
While some people are falling into despair over the Danganronpa anime, I'm in despair because Seiyu's Life is only getting a DVD sub only release.

The worst part is I get why.
 
I mean, I get some of them clearly, but why are these here: (I haven't watched L*S)

8. The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya
6 (tie). Love, Chunibyo & Other Delusions
6 (tie). Lucky Star

Seems like a list of stuff that's well known and/or have sold a lot in the last 15 years that's not action-y.

+ Chunibyo because Chunibyo I guess.
 

Jarmel

Banned
It's not just the character design of course. The general art direction differs quite substantially. But still, the 2011 character designs look like ass, whether in comparison to 1999 or just generally.

Here's the article that got me interested in actually watching 1999, besides having seen some clips that looked much better than I imagined, given the praise I've heard for 2011 over 1999 for a long time.

So I decided to read your link and hahahaha the general direction is light years better than the 2011 version. Holy shit. That has less to do though with the character designs but rather elements like lighting and storyboarding as brought up in the article. For example I can't even remember if 2011 ever uses a fish eye perspective during any of the dramatic moments. That said, the two shows were obviously going for different tones and the directors probably interpreted the material in fundamentally different ways. The '99 version has a dash of horror in how it's framed and presented and the '11 version doesn't really have anything like that.
 

gargles

Member
Danganronpa 3: Despair - 10

So that was the
brainwashing video?
I was expecting that to be the final touch, not the transition method. Sure that was expected, but not like that. It felt uncomfortable but that whole
"from zero to despair in one Nanami
" was too much and exaggerated.

Amazing how the most "Danganronpaish" has become the worst one. And this comes from someone who prefers the 77th Class and with 4 characters on his personal Top 5 (Chiaki being one of them. A.I Chiaki, this is). No, Future is better. This was underwhelming. At least we had Nagito.
 
Harsher lighting and more experimental perspective shots seemed more common during that era. Hunter x Hunter 99 aesthetically looks alot like most of the higher end tv anime from the late 90s.
 
So I decided to read your link and hahahaha the general direction is light years better than the 2011 version. Holy shit. That has less to do though with the character designs but rather elements like lighting and storyboarding as brought up in the article. For example I can't even remember if 2011 ever uses a fish eye perspective during any of the dramatic moments. That said, the two shows were obviously going for different tones and the directors probably interpreted the material in fundamentally different ways. The '99 version has a dash of horror in how it's framed and presented and the '11 version doesn't really have anything like that.

Yeah, the two series are very different interpretations of the same material. As you can see here and elsewhere, some people actually don't like the alterations the 1999 anime made, because it does take a more creative approach while 2011 sticks more closely to the manga. That said, I'm not sure how far you are in 2011 but the direction does improve quite a bit once it gets to Yorkshin, to the point where both anime versions of the Yorkshin arc have their own advantages.
 

Eumi

Member
Oh man guess what I'm not fucking bothering with tonight!

Honestly considering dropping Danganronpa tbh. I really need to just abandon the series after the anime finishes and come back when I'm actually feeling good about it again.

Which feels super shitty.
 
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