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[ultimax]

It's not officially a franchise yet, but they announced a TV show in the middle of last year so you can bet your fucking ass there's going to be a sequel.

Too bad it was too goddamn late for me to charge back when all this stuff came to light.

Yeah that's pretty gross imo. I feel bad for the backers.

 

[zedreamcast]

So I have not listened to the podcast yet, how long do they discuss Persona 5?

Like 5 minutes.

 

[Foxhound286]

It's not officially a franchise yet, but they announced a TV show in the middle of last year so you can bet your fucking ass there's going to be a sequel.

Too bad it was too goddamn late for me to charge back that all this stuff came to light.

I really don't get what's so bad about that. What's wrong with making a tv show and planning a sequel? I really don't see it.

 

[DoktorEvil]

Yeah, but it's a general role right? I'm not sure which of the every "Megaman Game ever" he actually did stuff with

They're like a middle manager.

http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/Harv...The_Future_of_Being_a_Video_Game_Producer.php

Project Management is a key skill for that work.

 

[ultimax]

I don't think it being kickstarted is a reason to dislike the franchise announcement. In fact, it makes sense. If MN9 takes off as a franchise, I helped establish it with my backing. If Comcept announces another campaign to fund a franchise entry, then the pitchforks come out.

It still feels dumb and shady to me. The game can suck ass for all we know. It sounds like they're getting a bit too cocky

 

[360pages]

He's the director of No. 9 and is the founder and CEO of the company... so I can totally shit on him all I want for stuff regarding No. 9.

Didn't he also head Gunvolt? While not amazing, I think it's good attempt to create a series in the same vein as Megaman Zero/ZX.

 

[Numb]

Plus the fact the game had to be kickstarted to even happen

What annoys me is the fact that the game is not out yet. And if they ask for kickstarter money for the sequel which seems super stupid and ignorant.
The banner saga 2 is announced and it started on kickstarter too. They should go that route.

 

[DoktorEvil]

I don't think it being kickstarted is a reason to dislike the franchise announcement. In fact, it makes sense. If MN9 takes off as a franchise, I helped establish it with my backing. If Comcept announces another campaign to fund a franchise entry, then the pitchforks come out.

If MN9 takes off as a franchise, you should be fucking pissed that Inafune holds ALL RIGHTS TO THE IP and it's respective licensing!

 

[ShakuganSan]

I'm not a huge fan of lances because of their tanky moveset, but no, what I mean is Lances are inherently a lot slower walk speed when drawn versus most other weapons, so shielding makes up for the lack of mobility.

Oh I see what your getting at now, I love spears/lances too much to not use them here. Gonna give it a few more tries.

They turned it into a franchise?
That is not cool. Maybe after the game came out

He's pretty much biting off more than he can chew

 

[Alfebit]

AwwwwYissssss! I'm back, baby! Now I can finally get back to shitposting. Shoutouts to Mrgoodwil for pointing me towards this new laptop.

 

[GlassEmpires]

If MN9 takes off as a franchise, you should be fucking pissed that Inafune holds ALL RIGHTS TO THE IP!

Why? It wasn't offered as a reward tier. Maybe some of the creative tiers have a leg to stand on.

 

[Foxhound286]

I'm probably late to this, but Spiderman is going to be in a Marvel movie. I swear, if Tobey Maguire isn't under that mask, i'll be so disappointed.

 

[Phantasmal Repose]

AwwwwYissssss! I'm back, baby! Now I can finally get back to shitposting. Shoutouts to Mrgoodwil for pointing me towards this new laptop.

Congratulations!

 

[RecursiveFault]

AwwwwYissssss! I'm back, baby! Now I can finally get back to shitposting. Shoutouts to Mrgoodwil for pointing me towards this new laptop.

YO WHAT'S UP

Glad it worked out well, which did you go with? Better than your old one I hope.

 

[360pages]

If MN9 takes off as a franchise, you should be fucking pissed that Inafune holds ALL RIGHTS TO THE IP and it's respective licensing!

Eh...why, we aren't really paying or did a lot of the hard stuff. People just payed for a product they wanted see finished.

 

[Squishy3]

Didn't he also head Gunvolt? While not amazing, I think it's good attempt to create a series in the same vein as Megaman Zero/ZX.

Inafune had nothing to do with Gunvolt, that was entirely Inti Creates.

Eh...why, we aren't really paying or did a lot of the hard stuff. People just payed for a product they wanted see finished.

It's a product that I'm not happy with how it was handled post-funding and they didn't even try to go for an art style similar to the first concept art. The game will likely be good, but I'm extremely upset with the way everything was handled and regret giving them money for it.

I don't give a shit about compensation, I just don't like the direction the project took.

 

[Jman014]

AwwwwYissssss! I'm back, baby! Now I can finally get back to shitposting. Shoutouts to Mrgoodwil for pointing me towards this new laptop.

WB Alfie!

 

[DoktorEvil]

Why? It wasn't offered as a reward tier. Maybe some of the creative tiers have a leg to stand on.

I understand that, but now he's entering the realm of shareholders and public financing.

A "franchise" is not a one time project. It's an IP.

As an IP the people who financed it's creation should be rightfully compensated.

Eh...why, we aren't really paying or did a lot of the hard stuff. People just payed for a product they wanted see finished.

See above. This wasn't a one time project. He's planning to do stuff with your money you may have not agreed to.

 

[GlassEmpires]

I understand that, but now he's entering the realm of shareholders and public financing.
A "franchise" is not a one time project. It's an IP.
As an IP the people who financed it's creation should be rightfully compensated.

And we backed that one time product, not the franchise.

 

[Numb]

I wish David cage became a succesful hollywood director just to see the Zaibatsu relieved to see that he is gone from gaming and then pissed that people watch his stuff and love it.

 

[Banana Aeon]

AwwwwYissssss! I'm back, baby! Now I can finally get back to shitposting. Shoutouts to Mrgoodwil for pointing me towards this new laptop.

What did you go with?

 

[Alfebit]

Congratulations!

I'm out $450 dollars but it was worth it to be able to freely shitpost like I used to.

YO WHAT'S UP

Glad it worked out well, which did you go with? Better than your old one I hope.

This Acer you linked.

 

[DoktorEvil]

And we backed that one time product, not the franchise.

But Inafune is now trying to make it into a franchise, which by all accounts, if he was up front about doing that, should be giving shares to people and not promises.

I find that very unethical to the people that finance MN9.

 

[Squishy3]

I'm also still butthurt about the Call vote. CALL E GOT SCREWED FOR FUCKING GENERIC LOOKING ROBOT BULLSHIT

this is so much fucking better than f. e above, f below

 

[TechnicaUS]

I wish David cage became a succesful hollywood director just to see the Zaibatsu relieved to see that he is gone from gaming and then pissed that people watch his stuff and love it.

And then everyone else would laugh him out of the business. Oh if only.

 

[RecursiveFault]

I understand that, but now he's entering the realm of shareholders and public financing.
A "franchise" is not a one time project. It's an IP.
As an IP the people who financed it's creation should be rightfully compensated.
See above. This wasn't a one time project. He's planning to do stuff with your money you may have not agreed to.

It's only a real problem if the money backed isn't used to create the actual game, Whatever money was put in was a donation, not a stake.

I think making it into a franchise is stupid, presumptuous, and makes me wonder why they needed to turn to Kickstarter, but it's not like it's a false promise unless they misuse backer money.

 

[360pages]

Inafune had nothing to do with Gunvolt, that was entirely Inti Creates.

It's a product that I'm not happy with how it was handled post-funding and they didn't even try to go for an art style similar to the first concept art. The game will likely be good, but I'm extremely upset with the way everything was handled and regret giving them money for it.

I don't give a shit about compensation, I just don't like the direction the project took.

I can understand that, and I legit like the concept art and actually wish it was a 2D HD game like Rayman Legends/Origins. Since I loved the concept art, but that cost a lot more money than 3D models sadly.

Inafune...has been messing up, if he had nothing to do with Gunvolt, then almost all his games he helped with since he left Capcom has been questionable.

If all 4 million went into the game, then it should be fine with me personally. He probably thinks that even if the game doesn't sell well it will pretty much guarantee a profit. But honestly, the game doesn't actually look like 4 million went into it...

 

[zedreamcast]

I'm also still butthurt about the Call vote. CALL E GOT SCREWED FOR FUCKING GENERIC LOOKING ROBOT BULLSHIT

this is so much fucking better than f. e above, f below

People like Roll.

 

[Squishy3]

I can understand that, and I legit like the concept art and actually wish it was a 2D HD game like Rayman Legends/Origins. Since I loved the concept art, but that cost a lot more money than 3D models sadly.

Inafune...has been messing up, if he had nothing to do with Gunvolt, then almost all his games he helped with since he left Capcom has been questionable.

If all 4 million went into the game, then it should be fine with me personally. He probably thinks that even if the game doesn't sell well it will pretty much guarantee a profit. But honestly, the game doesn't actually look like 4 million went into it...

I'm sure all the money went into the game, and the game will likely be good, and I will play it, I just don't like Inafune.

didn't even fucking try to go for this fucking artstyle god dammit WHEN IT'S TOTALLY FUCKING POSSIBLE FUCKING XRD IS SO BEAUTIFUL AND IT'S ON THE SAME FUCKING ENGINE

 

[Foxhound286]

But Inafune is now trying to make it into a franchise, which by all accounts, if he was up front about doing that, should be giving shares to people and not promises.

I find that very unethical to the people that finance MN9.

But that's not how it works. From what I understand, kickstarter acts more like donations than investments, and you don't get shares for donations.

 

[CrackPebbles]

I'm also still butthurt about the Call vote. CALL E GOT SCREWED FOR FUCKING GENERIC LOOKING ROBOT BULLSHIT

this is so much fucking better than f. e above, f below

I am also butthurt about this.

 

[Jman014]

I'm out $450 dollars but it was worth it to be able to freely shitpost like I used to.



This Acer you linked.

Let's see if you get into the shame car list!

 

[croten]

I'm also still butthurt about the Call vote. CALL E GOT SCREWED FOR FUCKING GENERIC LOOKING ROBOT BULLSHIT

this is so much fucking better than f. e above, f below

Other than the hat I prefer the other one.

 

[Foxhound286]

I'm also still butthurt about the Call vote. CALL E GOT SCREWED FOR FUCKING GENERIC LOOKING ROBOT BULLSHIT

this is so much fucking better than f. e above, f below

I was so disappointed. E was robbed.

 

[Rizzi]

Sometimes I'm really glad I'm not a fan of Mega Man.
Can't be disappointed if I never cared.

 

[RecursiveFault]

This Acer you linked.

Nice, man. I really like the AMD A-series.

didn't even fucking try to go for this fucking artstyle god dammit WHEN IT'S TOTALLY FUCKING POSSIBLE FUCKING XRD IS SO BEAUTIFUL AND IT'S ON THE SAME FUCKING ENGINE

FUCK THIS PART AND I AGREE ABOUT CALL E

 

[DoktorEvil]

I think making it into a franchise is stupid, presumptuous, and makes me wonder why they needed to turn to Kickstarter, but it's not like it's a false promise unless they misuse backer money.

It is if you're not getting the best effort out of said project.

You saw the stills. MN9 looks shitty. Granted, the gameplay in motion looks better than the stills, but it doesn't look like what $4 MM should get you, unless the business market in much different in reality than anticipated.

But that's not how it works. From what I understand, kickstarter acts more like donations than investments, and you don't get shares for donations.

Yes I know. Patronage.
But he's still in a business endeavor using backer money to try and capitalize off of more than he's being asked.

 

[Alfebit]

Let's see if you get into the shame car list!

There's no way. We're already half way through this thread.

 

[Squishy3]

It is if you're not getting the best effort out of said project.

You saw the stills. MN9 looks shitty. Granted, the gameplay in motion looks better than the stills, but it doesn't look like what $4 MM should get you, unless the business market in much different in reality than anticipated.

The problem is they didn't even try to go for something even remotely similar to it in UE3. It's all artstyle, and they didn't try to go for that artstyle in the actual game.

 

[zedreamcast]

Sometimes I'm really glad I'm not a fan of Mega Man.
Can't be disappointed if I never cared.

I like X but not a big fan of og megaman so Im not really disappointed, I keep forgetting MN9 even exists.

 

[Banana Aeon]

I'm also still butthurt about the Call vote. CALL E GOT SCREWED FOR FUCKING GENERIC LOOKING ROBOT BULLSHIT

this is so much fucking better than f. e above, f below

God, Call F looks so terrible compared to Call E.

Fuck this nostalgia bait.

 

[Phantasmal Repose]

I'm also still butthurt about the Call vote. CALL E GOT SCREWED FOR FUCKING GENERIC LOOKING ROBOT BULLSHIT

this is so much fucking better than f. e above, f below

That was a good day to be a Call F fan. Deal with it, nerds.

 

[RecursiveFault]

It is if you're not getting the best effort out of said project.

You saw the stills. MN9 looks shitty. Granted, the gameplay in motion looks better than the stills, but it doesn't look like what $4 MM should get you, unless the business market in much different in reality than anticipated.

Not meeting the concept art is the worst part, and makes it actually seem shitty like they misused all that money for other shit. That said, even so it's just something to be mad about, not something I can actually legally be mad about. Morally? Eh, yeah. Pretty fucking shitty to probably misuse backer money.

That was a good day to be a Call F fan. Deal with it, nerds.

Get good robit grill taste.

 

[360pages]

I'm sure all the money went into the game, and the game will likely be good, and I will play it, I just don't like Inafune.

didn't even fucking try to go for this fucking artstyle god dammit WHEN IT'S TOTALLY FUCKING POSSIBLE FUCKING XRD IS SO BEAUTIFUL AND IT'S ON THE SAME FUCKING ENGINE

I agree, they completely didn't even care about keeping the artstyle from the concept. And from the looks of it, the game doesn't seem that much above the recent Strider game in terms of presentation.

I will say that I don't know too much about making games, but it really doesn't look like 4 million went into making the game honestly...Even if a million was spent on spreading it around to different systems.

 

[GlassEmpires]

But Inafune is now trying to make it into a franchise, which by all accounts, if he was up front about doing that, should be giving shares to people and not promises.

But backers didn't give money to an idea, and that idea remains with Comcept. Every other game, book, film, show and whatever idea remains with the creator and if the success of that idea is proven, the creator can pursue franchise options without the original supporters. Comcept is being arrogant with it's franchise announcement, but backers aren't investors.

I'm also still butthurt about the Call vote. CALL E GOT SCREWED FOR FUCKING GENERIC MIKU LOOKING ROBOT BULLSHIT

Proof you can't trust public opinion on anything.

 

[Banana Aeon]

This Acer you linked.

Damn, that's nice. I'm running integrated and an i3 on my laptop. It's not great.

 

[Phantasmal Repose]

Get good robit grill taste.

I don't need to. Mine won.

 

[DoktorEvil]

The problem is they didn't even try to go for something even remotely similar to it in UE3. It's all artstyle, and they didn't try to go for that artstyle in the actual game.

I don't buy any hype in tech demos and shit like that.

It's nearly always different from the final product.

Not that it's right to bait and switch people like that, but it happens.

 

[Numb]

And then everyone else would laugh him out of the business. Oh if only.

Only conclusion. Maybe if he wrote sitcoms he might be succesful but only because he is wrting serious stuff that is shown as sitcoms.

 

[Banana Aeon]

Proof you can't trust public opinion on anything.

Public opinion has always been the worst.