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Super Best Friends Thread 5: There's a Skeleton Inside Each of Us

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Zenfalcia

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JooseBawcks said:
Rule of Cool attacks, rival becomes ally(x2), villain wasn't villain.
There's probably more
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Damn, I forgot about those. It's been way too long. I should rewatch the series some time.

Self sacrifice (x2ManyToCount), "traitor", people who should be dead aren't dead..
 
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360pages said:
If you like that you should read Tsukihime, it's set in the same universe as the Fate series.

But if you are going to read it, either read the VN or the Manga, do not touch the anime...some say it's so bad it doesn't even exist.
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Eventually. Don't have much time for anything right now, other than a few episodes a week of my rewatch of Fate/Zero
 
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JooseBawcks

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Zenfalcia said:
Damn, I forgot about those. It's been way too long. I should rewatch the series some time.

Self sacrifice (x2ManyToCount), "traitor", people who should be dead aren't dead..
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I need to watch the movies myself. Fuck, TTGL gives me so many emotions. I love it

zedreamcast said:
well heres the first 2 pages of the one shot thing, it may be a bit dark..
also I forgot I cant put music in a purely visual art form haha well I guess I could put jokes from terminator and homages
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You could always do author's notes on the sides at stuff.
 
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zedreamcast

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Zenfalcia said:
So, you're just.. going to intro everyone in little blurbs? It could be paced into a few pages, but sure, this is a start. How manga like are you planning to make this? Or will it be a mix of manga/western comics?
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Well for the beggining kinda, thats just a little thing to name their characters. The second chapter onward starts from the beginning of the story, introducing characters as the protagonist meets them. The first chapter is going to be devoted to set the tone of the story as a comedy. Also yes, mainly the comedy. The story itself is going to be heavily manga with usual manga tropes.
 
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Zenfalcia

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JooseBawcks said:
I need to watch the movies myself. Fuck, TTGL gives me so many emotions. I love it
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I haven't watched the movies yet. Same as madoka, still haven't seen the movies.

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Well for the beggining kinda, thats just a little thing to name their characters. The second chapter onward starts from the beginning of the story, introducing characters as the protagonist meets them. The first chapter is going to be devoted to set the tone of the story as a comedy. Also yes, mainly the comedy. The story itself is going to be heavily manga with usual manga tropes.
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Now, do you want me nice or give some constructive criticism? One little suggestion is you need a hook. You can't just intro characters and expect people to start liking it immediately. One idea is to start off with a teaser to what is to happen later or even start with a joke or something like that.
 
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zedreamcast

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Zenfalcia said:
I haven't watched the movies yet. Same as madoka, still haven't seen the movies.



Now, do you want me nice or give some constructive criticism? One little suggestion is you need a hook. You can't just intro characters and expect people to start liking it immediately. One idea is to start off with a teaser to what is to happen later or even start with a joke or something like that.
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Constructive criticism please! I love criticism more than people saying nice things. Hmmm yeah I have think more about that hook...
 
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Zenfalcia

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zedreamcast said:
Constructive criticism please! I love criticism more than people saying nice things. Hmmm yeah I have think more about that hook...
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Sure, prepare your butthole!
Jokes, but I'll be frank with you.
Your panels are not too great. There's blank spaces, but I can't blame you since you're working on blank paper where you'd have to draw your own lines/boxes. Art could use some improvements, but you have some decent proportions, heads seem tall? You could argue it's your style and my preference of art. Some of your grammar is off ex. girl's when it should be girls.

Do you know about the phrase: Show not tell? Instead of stating everything that's happening. You should just show the reader details of what's happening with drawings.
Example: You don't have to tell the reader it's lunch time, just have the character off handedly say the girls are out getting lunch at the cafeteria or something.

JooseBawcks said:
Oh man that's something else I need to watch. I swear my list is too fucking long.
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It gets longer every day and month! Too many new animes to watch, not enough time to watch.
 
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Agent York

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Nope, I'm not gonna mention my stories in the thread. With how much detail, lore, and plot I've built up for my longest one in development (let alone all my other ones), I could literally fill out a whole thread myself with all the details. Not gonna force feed that mess down innocent viewer's eye-holes.
 
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Zenfalcia

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Agent York said:
Nope, I'm not gonna mention my stories in the thread. With how much detail, lore, and plot I've built up for my longest one in development (let alone all my other ones), I could literally fill out a whole thread myself with all the details. Not gonna force feed that mess down innocent viewer's eye-holes.
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How much is your longest one? Several hundred chapters? Thousands?

DAREALGUMMY said:
What a shitty fucking day. That is all.
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Sucks. At least you're here now. Watch some best friends to make your day better.
no not really, just get salty at pat and woolie being bad at games
 
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zedreamcast

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Zenfalcia said:
Sure, prepare your butthole!
Jokes, but I'll be frank with you.
Your panels are not too great. There's blank spaces, but I can't blame you since you're working on blank paper where you'd have to draw your own lines/boxes. Art could use some improvements, but you have some decent proportions, heads seem very tall? You could argue it's your style. Some of your grammar is off ex. girl's when it should be girls.

Do you know about the phrase: Show not tell? Instead of stating everything that's happening. You should just show the reader details of what's happening with drawings.
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Well yeah i do know the phrase but i dont see how I could visually repersent all the girls in their group being absent from their hangout. Though I was thinking of changing them from hanging out on the school room to hanging in front of a convenient store like most delinquents are know to do and just start the chapter with the protagonist just straight up asking his bros "what do you think a boob feels like?"
 
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IDKAboutThat

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360pages said:
Typing MAXIMUM DRIVE!
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Zenfalcia

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zedreamcast said:
Well yeah i do know the phrase but i dont see how I could visually repersent all the girls in their group being absent from their hangout. Though I was thinking of changing them from hanging out on the school room to hanging in front of a convenient store like most delinquents are know to do and just start the chapter with the protagonist just straight up asking his bros "what do you think a boob feels like?"
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Sure that would work. Also, I made an edit and added an example. Yeah that could work. Just a bunch of dudes sitting around and then random question comes up.
 
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Agent York

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Zenfalcia said:
How much is your longest one? Several hundred chapters? Thousands?
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I've never wrote anything down, it's all in my head, so I have no idea how long it would go for. To put it in perspective, this story has been in development for well over ten years. Discounting the ways it has completely changed up-to the point where it is now? Give or take 5 years. I wish to make graphic novels/manga for a living, and that story is my oldest one. Discounting small ideas that I'm not entirely dedicated to, I have two other stories that I am filling/fleshing out.
 
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zedreamcast

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Agent York said:
I've never wrote anything down, it's all in my head, so I have no idea how long it would go for. To put it in perspective, this story has been in development for well over ten years. Discounting the ways it has completely changed up-to the point where it is now? Give or take 5 years. I wish to make graphic novels/manga for a living, and that story is my oldest one. Discounting small ideas that I'm not entirely dedicated to, I have two other stories that I am filling/fleshing out.
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Wow dude im in the same situation right now, im just now finally getting everything together and am ok with the state of the story enough to actually draw it.
 
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Zenfalcia

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Agent York said:
I've never wrote anything down, it's all in my head, so I have no idea how long it would go for. To put it in perspective, this story has been in development for well over ten years. Discounting the ways it has completely changed up-to the point where it is now? Give or take 5 years. I wish to make graphic novels/manga for a living, and that story is my oldest one. Discounting small ideas that I'm not entirely dedicated to, I have two other stories that I am filling/fleshing out.
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You should write stuff down so you'll never forget and can always build upon it in the future. That's what I do.. So many bad/good ideas on my computer and note book.

Problem is all that you thought of could change on a dime if it's not interesting for people to read. Unless you go with the mentality of this is what i'm writing regardless of what people reading it think.

How are your art skills and comic/manga making skills?
 
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360pages

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Agent York said:
I've never wrote anything down, it's all in my head, so I have no idea how long it would go for. To put it in perspective, this story has been in development for well over ten years. Discounting the ways it has completely changed up-to the point where it is now? Give or take 5 years. I wish to make graphic novels/manga for a living, and that story is my oldest one. Discounting small ideas that I'm not entirely dedicated to, I have two other stories that I am filling/fleshing out.
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I wouldn't mind writing for a living at one point. But it will most likely be a secondary thing for a while for me because I doubt my stuff will be popular.

At this point I just want to get one thing published!
 
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JooseBawcks

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Zenfalcia said:
It gets longer every day and month! Too many new animes to watch, not enough time to watch.
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You're telling this to someone that likes games, movies, anime, manga, basically almost everything of almost every genre. Seriously, I will never do everything I want and I have to accept that, but I'll be damned if I don't try and do a lot of it.
 
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Zenfalcia

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DAREALGUMMY said:
BAD idea. Don't need anymore salt after losing at a casino and my 49ers doing GODDAMN AWFUL....

I'll watch this instead.
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It's fiinneeee.. Just watch the new videos for the entertainment value, not the gameplay...

Isn't every trip to a casino a loss in the long run? Even if you win some a few times?

JooseBawcks said:
You're telling this to someone that likes games, movies, anime, manga, basically almost everything of almost every genre. Seriously, I will never do everything I want and I have to accept that, but I'll be damned if I don't try and do a lot of it.
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I'm the same. Except not so much for movies, I've half given up on it. It's worst when I procrastinate on fun things and never do them... It's bad.. Really bad..
 
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Agent York

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Zenfalcia said:
You should write stuff down so you'll never forget and can always build upon it in the future. That's what I do.. So many bad/good ideas on my computer and note book.

Problem is all that you thought of could change on a dime if it's not interesting for people to read. Unless you go with the mentality of this is what i'm writing regardless of what people reading it think.

How are your art skills and comic/manga making skills?
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For somebody who wants to make a career out of art, I'd say I'm "behind schedule" at where I should be skill-wise. I still have not gotten used to using a tablet, and shading is something that I'm still learning. While I'm finally at a point where I'm feeling confident with my character art, I have no experience with panel composition, and I'm terrible at scenery. If I wished to share some of my art, how would I go about doing it? Zip Files through PMs?
 
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IDKAboutThat

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Agent York said:
For somebody who wants to make a career out of art, I'd say I'm "behind schedule" at where I should be skill-wise. I still have not gotten used to using a tablet, and shading is something that I'm still learning. While I'm finally at a point where I'm feeling confident with my character art, I have no experience with panel composition, and I'm terrible at scenery. If I wished to share some of my art, how would I go about doing it? Zip Files through PMs?
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Are- are you the same guy from the youtube comments?
 
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Zenfalcia

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Agent York said:
For somebody who wants to make a career out of art, I'd say I'm "behind schedule" at where I should be skill-wise. I still have not gotten used to using a tablet, and shading is something that I'm still learning. While I'm finally at a point where I'm feeling confident with my character art, I have no experience with panel composition, and I'm terrible at scenery. If I wished to share some of my art, how would I go about doing it? Zip Files through PMs?
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Hmm.. Ic ic. Might want to do some short comics/manga? Just for practice and criticism. It could help you practice your panel composition and scenery. Although keep in mind, you have to practice properly. Like a wise plague man has said, if you just keep practicing a bad art, you'll be good at drawing bad art.

Sure? I'll take a look at them. Might not be immediate but i'll give some feed back in time.

SickWheelchairCombos said:
Are- are you the same guy from the youtube comments?
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Anyone can make a youtube account with the name Agent york and use the exact same picture.
 
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IDKAboutThat

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Agent York said:
Who? I have no idea what you are talking about.
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Damn. There's a guy in the youtube comments called Agent Francis York Morgan or somesuch with the same profile picture that interjects randomly and talks to Zach. I see now that it was naive of me, but I actually felt more like I was meeting a celebrity there than I did when I talked to Pat those times.
 
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skLaFarebear

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SickWheelchairCombos said:
Damn. There's a guy in the youtube comments called Agent Francis York Morgan or somesuch with the same profile picture that interjects randomly and talks to Zach. I see now that it was naive of me, but I actually felt more like I was meeting a celebrity there than I did when I talked to Pat those times.
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Mr. Francis York Morgan is a celebrity in all our hearts
 
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Zenfalcia

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SickWheelchairCombos said:
Damn. There's a guy in the youtube comments called Agent Francis York Morgan or somesuch with the same profile picture that interjects randomly and talks to Zach. I see now that it was naive of me, but I actually felt more like I was meeting a celebrity there than I did when I talked to Pat those times.
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It is. I'm glad you realized it. I hope Pat the dog didn't read that or he'll be sad. Everyone is normal, even those celebrities who seem like idols/gods.
 
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JooseBawcks

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Zenfalcia said:
I'm the same. Except not so much for movies, I've half given up on it. It's worst when I procrastinate on fun things and never do them... It's bad.. Really bad..
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Oh man that's the worst, I'll be like "Man I need to finish (game).....no I think I'll just play a game that has no end/sit here and stare at nothing/look for something to do when I have so much I can do"

Agent York said:
For somebody who wants to make a career out of art, I'd say I'm "behind schedule" at where I should be skill-wise. I still have not gotten used to using a tablet, and shading is something that I'm still learning. While I'm finally at a point where I'm feeling confident with my character art, I have no experience with panel composition, and I'm terrible at scenery. If I wished to share some of my art, how would I go about doing it? Zip Files through PMs?
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You could upload them to imgur, that's really quick. I feel like same way about myself. I want to study art/games but I haven't made a single notable thing and I feel as though I should have the ability to do so already.
 
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360pages

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The worst thing when creating anything is when you start noticing your improvement. Which is lucky, comparing the first thing I ever wrote to what I write now is amazingly different and my current stuff is vastly superior.
 
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Zenfalcia

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JooseBawcks said:
Oh man that's the worst, I'll be like "Man I need to finish (game).....no I think I'll just play a game that has no end/sit here and stare at nothing/look for something to do when I have so much I can do"
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I do that all the time. Except instead of games, I just sit and type to random people i'll most likely never meet IRL and browse the internet.

360pages said:
The worst thing when creating anything is when you start noticing your improvement. Which is lucky, comparing the first thing I ever wrote to what I write now is amazingly different and my current stuff is vastly superior.
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What's worst is when you thought your old thing was good.. and then you gripe about why you thought it looked good at the time.
 
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IDKAboutThat

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Zenfalcia said:
It is. I'm glad you realized it. I hope Pat the dog didn't read that or he'll be sad. Everyone is normal, even those celebrities who seem like idols/gods.
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Duh. I kicked Pat's ass at Smash a few weeks back.
Pat is probably my favorite celebrity, if that helps soften the blow.
 
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Agent York

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Zenfalcia said:
Hmm.. Ic ic. Might want to do some short comics/manga? Just for practice and criticism. It could help you practice your panel composition and scenery. Although keep in mind, you have to practice properly. Like a wise plague man has said, if you just keep practicing a bad art, you'll be good at drawing bad art.

Sure? I'll take a look at them. Might not be immediate but i'll give some feed back in time.
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Thanks, I'll send a PM with them in a bit. I'd really appreciate it, because literally everybody that I personally know either doesn't know shit about Manga (and thus has little knowledge on which to critique), or is afraid for some reason to critique my art. Cause without a second opinion, I end up not noticing flaws or things that need improvement until long after making them.
 
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