MillionStabs
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No Vita, no buy
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Super Best Friends Thread 5: There's a Skeleton Inside Each of Us
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No Vita, no buy
skLaFarebear
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I guess I'll be that guy and say outside of character action and fighting, I really don't care about frame rate, unless it drops beneath Drakengard 3 levels of FPS.
Though if I ever (hopefully) get into game design, I understand how important it is for games to actually be at 60,
Though if I ever (hopefully) get into game design, I understand how important it is for games to actually be at 60,
jack_package_200
Banned
But the Dragon battles and mai waifus would be better on the hdtv
DoktorEvil
Banned
Eh...
If I went full PC, I'd be playing so much CS:GO and other FPSs.
Games like the Witcher don't interest me too much. I'd give planescape a try.
I don't think it'll affect who buys what IP, but more like where someone would play that IP.
Like, I can't handle when DS goes into Blighttown and the frame rate shits the bed. I can't stand when a game had that glaring an issue.
RecursiveFault
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Locked 30 is just fine, some people would disagree, but their explanation is fucking garbage. Just say you're doing 30 cause you want to.
Locked 60 > Variable framerate above 30 > locked 30 >>>>>>>>>> sub 30.
Vita TV
Plus, Dat OLED tho
Imagine having Quake running at 30 fps.
ArclightBorealis
Member
Kinda the same here. I understand the importance of 60 and is something I want to strive for, but it's not gonna be a deal breaker for me. Hell, I still play old N64 games for fuck sakes, you ain't gonna find good framerate there (unless it's F-Zero X).
It's too late to try Nexuiz, which was taken off of Steam, but you could try Painkiller Hell and Damnation if you don't mind bunny hopping for increased speed and being able to hold more than 4 weapons.
Not even "this retard", THESE RETARDS!
Both Assassin's Creed Unity World Level Design Director, and Creative Director
jack_package_200
Banned
Locked 30 is just fine, some people would disagree, but their explanation is fucking garbage. Just say you're doing 30 cause you want to.
Locked 60 > Variable framerate above 30 > locked 30 >>>>>>>>>> sub 30.
Vita TV
Plus, Dat OLED tho
But Sony told me that the Vita was a companion device for the PS4 and I do not own a PS4...
DoktorEvil
Banned
See I thought that too, but Even in. The SNES AND N64 days you need a stable frame rate for 3d games, regardless of graphical problems.
I don't need 60 to play console, but if you promise 60 you better fucking deliver it.
AC is a franchise based in historical non-fiction and great environments. Above 30 needs to be a standard.
RecursiveFault
Banned
How else you gonna rub without a vita for Monster Monpeice!?
Jesus christ, episode 7 of True detective.
Spoilers
Spoilers
I cannot fucking believe the guy they've been searching for the whole series was right there just mowing lawns by the roadside and the light and distance made it impossible for the cops to notice scars on his face, fantastic.
MillionStabs
Banned
http://massiveburrito.com/test/60vs30.html
Also this in case you guys want to test your eyeballs or just pass the time.
Also this in case you guys want to test your eyeballs or just pass the time.
Site currently not working for me but I've been there before. It's a useful site if you wanna see what 60 fps looks like and you aren't used to it.
DoktorEvil
Banned
I saw that earlier on GAF. 10/11 for me.
To be honest though, both gifs had no issues with frame rate stutter though, so 30 vs 60 doesn't affect me too much.
MillionStabs
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Dammit, you're right. Currently unavailable. The guys from the SteamGAF thread probably crashed it
skLaFarebear
Member
2 spkooky 4 this thread.
As a beginner programmer I can understand why it can be harder to do 60, but I mean you are getting paid so...
I personally had bigger problems with blighttown than it's framerate.
Yeah, like I'm not gonna get super hype for a new game only to hear that it's 30 FPS and just cancel my preorder or something lol. It's not gonna be any less good unless it actually starts to mess up the gameplay.
I've always been able to tell the difference, I don't really know why it could ever be a debatable thing, there's a pretty clear difference between 30 and 60 frames.
That said, things running at 30 frames don't really bother me, I'll play a game at 30 or 60, I'd prefer 60, but a good game is not suddenly shit if it only runs at 30.
You're not playing it for the right reasons if you judge it specifically on that.
Banana Aeon
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DoktorEvil
Banned
Heh. You haven't been on GAF long enough. Wait til the comparison threads come out for the next Call of Duty.
Hell, you had those same complaints against RE4's PC port and XBL port.
I just can't wrap my head around the logic that people refuse to buy a game because frame rates are locked.
Was there graphical debates in the NES/SNES/N64/PSX era?
I don't mean 8 bit vs 16 bit, I mean about 30fps vs 60fps.
RecursiveFault
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Well AAA development isn't really reliant on anyone but the lead programmer, maybe. Anyway you're totally right, only a few genres are truly hurt by 30 FPS.
Banana Aeon
Member
True enough, I do wonder what the game would play like at 60 FPS. Though I can't help but feel there would be some dropped frames.
Don't really care, if 30 VS 60 makes or breaks a game then I feel sorry for those people, it's that simple.
100%
I want Totalbiscuit to just unlock the framerate and discover that it runs at twice the speed at 60 like Need for Speed Rivals did, breaking the game.
skLaFarebear
Member
Which is why I really can't force myself to care about AC unity or evil within being locked at 30. I mean, I guess for PC users it's a bigger deal since the reason they spend hundreds on a PC is for 60, but I'm a console player so....that sucks I guess?
DoktorEvil
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It does affect certain genres, whether you feel sorry for those people or not.
I just want stable games, not games that feel the need to push the absolute boundaries of platform graphics.
It doesn't make or break for me but 30 FPS is tolerable but 60 FPS is just pure eye candy. It just makes games better to play.
skLaFarebear
Member
I can agree with this, if it doesn't at least include games that rely heavily on frames like fighting games.
Banana Aeon
Member
I'm very sensitive to low framerates, especially those with heavy camera movement.
It won't dissuade me from purchasing, but if a game makes me sick, I'm not going to get the full enjoyment out of it.
I did wish they do the Naruto game for Fisticuffs, since Naruto is ending soon. Traditional fighters are great, but breaking the mold once in awhile is good. Though I have a feeling they probably wouldn't try to learn the game as much as they tried with all star battle. So they probably won't be into it.
Well I don't think anyone can argue that, it's just the idea of a game running at 30 causing some people to be like "Nope, Nah uh, screw this garbage game, it seemed really awesome until I heard it runs at 30, fuck everything about that." that I find to be...what's the word, stupid, those people are actually and literally stupid having such insane reactions.
DoktorEvil
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Is that similar to the motion sickness egoraptor on Game Grumps talks about?
If it's on PC then it's perfectly acceptable to think that
RecursiveFault
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There are a few, a small few, who can't play games at 30 without motion sickness or whatever.
It's a very smaller ton of people though. I've also heard the same about 60.
I kinda care more bout being able to play the game, but 60 FPS is nice. Honestly I just want my games o be playable. 60fps is gravy.
And ah ok, gotcha.
DoktorEvil
Banned
Why didn't you film it dude?
just give him a thumbs up with your biggest shit eating grin
DAREALGUMMY
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Brutha!
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
Is that confirmed? My guess was Silent Hill 2 or Resident Evil 1.
MillionStabs
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Aaron-Lagann
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No, wait. Pretend Mario is an anime girl! This has changed everything!
DAREALGUMMY
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Ahhh I'm so pissed. I recorded some Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde stuff the other day and just realized video is missing of it when I stopped recording then decided to continue. I'm pissed because it seriously broke me. All I have is the audio. I don't think I can play the game again.
Aaron-Lagann
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But that's the best NES game. You just gotta believe.
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