Ultimate_Trainer
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Hopefully she understands that its hurting you too... Best of luck.
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Super Best Friends Thread 8: "You know, we really are the Super Best Friends Play"
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I was hoping it was like P4A's as well.
Oh well, get Hyped for GGXRD: HYPER CLIMAX IZUNA DROP EX
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
Sorry to hear that, man.
More than Capcom, we are guaranteed to have a full release update. Sooner rather than later. I'm going to say late next year.
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
This is the worst avatar you've ever had.
Oh, and, uh, alright. Getting ready for a doctor's appointment.
Oh bullshit you lot know what DOA is and why it exists, stop kidding yourselves, I would have less of a problem with it if people were just honest about it and said "Yes I just want play a fighting game and have it make me rock hard at the same time."
I'm not comparing DOA to anything else because it is what it is, the context is entirely different to Bayonetta, anyone comparing the two are flat out retarded.
I'm not even that big of a fan of Bayonetta, I just thought that should be obvious.
Anyway, I've said my piece.
Aaron-Lagann
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I'm not even a fan of DOA and I don't agree with this stance at all. Sure, something can be aesthetically pleasing, but if that's all there is then people wouldn't keep playing it. Vanguard Princess is visually awesome with a ton of fanservice, but supremely mediocre in gameplay so nobody plays it.
I love Arcana Heart visually and mechanically, I enjoy both together and apart.
PfantzyPantz
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The point wasn't that the pervy stuff was DLC, I just said that because of how creepy the DLC costumes can get. The fact that it's even in the game puts me off quite a bit.
Even in their recent character reveal with the guy that's apparently
Ayane's father who raped her mom
I may like the DoA gameplay, but I don't like it enough to balance how annoyed I'd be everytime I saw said costumes. I hate pandering and I hate fanservice, it aint for me.
And the Bayonetta comparison doesn't apply, because none of Bayo's outfits get even close to how creepy DoA gets, and the fact that Bayo's character actually fits what she wears.
Well, you know how people are, they do love their fan service, Japan especially.
Yeah it is, people disregarding a game's good points (the gameplay in this case) because they don't like something unrelated to the good points (aesthetics and presentation usually don't affect gameplay except in very specific situations).
Ultimate_Trainer
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Aaron-Lagann
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cdstephens
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Another person that thought DA2 was superior? I thought I was the only one.
People complain about the levels etc. but I don't play DA for the combat.
Also sorry to hear DA:I isn't that fun. I've heard it's very Skyrim/MMO-like, and I despise that stuff.
you know what you need to do.
study since fighting games can come later.. of if you want to, give in and play games.
Dat animation and art quality
Banana Aeon
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Pretty much. The people arguing against the "worth" of a game (even though worth, like all things, is subjective) based on aesthetics, no matter the material, recycle the same arguments over and over, no matter the context.
Aaron-Lagann
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I really think it just comes down to what you're playing the game for, if people wanted a WRPG then 2 was disappointing, as where if you're there for S-Links then 2 was more enjoyable.
DA:I looks way too MMO'ish for my liking, I hate the UI, I liked Skyrim though quite a bit, but I didn't enjoy it as an Elder Scrolls game, if that makes sense.
Same with Oblivion.
Morrowind was the last TES game I really enjoyed.
That can be applied to most games.
Banana Aeon
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And that's why these arguments can be safely ignored.
cdstephens
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In class. Pretty boring, professor is just following the textbook.
Ultimate_Trainer
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I think I would have been fine if the PS3 people got the Xrd demo. I would have been satisfied for today.
Don't most people play RPGs for the story and characters? I don't understand why people are complaining about 2 for the battle mechanics when everything else is good.
Aaron-Lagann
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The story isn't fantastic and the end is one of the most railroaded things in any Bioware game, but most complaints I hear are just the amount of reused assets, which is undeniable, but I personally didn't give a shit about since that's not why I was there.
Because you will be fighting most of the time in RPGs
Tales of games get by it since combat is more involved. And basic turned based game get by it because they are simple and more thought provoking DA2 is neither of these.
That sucks. Might as well pay attention or read the textbook.. up to you.
It'll come out eventually, just wait for it.
Different priorities. Some people dont care about the stories as much as the gameplay.
You can go home and play vidya games!
If you look frame by frame.. it gets "better"
Work day's almost over. So pretty good.
That gif! *Loud sweating*
Put a warning on it next time
cdstephens
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It depends. Two of my good friends love RPG combat, love to grind, etc. I find it weird, but whatever floats their boat.
I liked DOA 2 when I was younger. Back then I didn't think twice about the fanservice
Also she's naoto.
I'm not kidding myself. I like fanservice.
You're casting a generalization on a game that isn't marketed to you by blanketly stating it shouldn't exist while deliberately and openly ignoring any strengths. My analogy is a pretty simple one and perfectly aligns with Bayonetta's ignorant detractors. The message, intent, and delivery of the "objectionable content" is completely irrelevant and is clouding your argument. I could also use the DmC Black Hair criticism as well because it's just as superficial.
It can, but it's a poor argument which is why you shouldn't do it.
Yeah but I don't think DA2 is good in that regard either. DA:O still tops DA2 in characters, settings, environments, plot, writing. It's not perfect but it's far better than DA2.
cdstephens
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Yeah I'm just reading the textbook during class to follow along. It doesn't help that the math is pretty tedious and not very interesting.
My point was, I just think DOA is pointless and I call bullshit on peoples reasons for defending it, that game looks the way it does and is as shallow as it is because those visuals serve a specific purpose, otherwise why would they be there?
The arguments here are in the same vein as being like "Well don't judge this porno, it's got a wonderful story of a Pizza delivery guy"
I have no issues with Bayonetta, the sexualization in that game is of a completely different context to DOA, if people can't differentiate than I don't know what to tell them.
The argument for DOA was only ever the fighting mechanics, really? nothing else about that game? No one is defending it's story, or it's well developed and deep characters or anything?
Plenty of other games have good fighting mechanics while also having many other good aspects.
I'm sorry, but being like "But the mechanics tho" comes across as an excuse, and even if that is not the case, that is just one part of the game out of all the things in it, I'm looking at the entire game, the whole package of everything together, how I think a game should be looked at, if the mechanics are that good then I say put them in a better series.
Aaron-Lagann
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I disagree with your opinion on this interactive piece of digital entertainment.
It's a winscreen from Vanguard Princess.
Ultimate_Trainer
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Aaron-Lagann
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Have you played 5? 5 is significantly different from the rest and is the only one people actually respect as a fighter.
If this is DmC 2 I'm gonna spiral so deeply into depression that I may never return.
To be fair...DOA still has more Story then Street Fighter. (Neither story is deep just to tell you) and the story is also connected to Ninja Gaiden.
Some people actually do want to see the story finish considering it's one of the few that has some semblance of a story mode.
There I just listed a thing that it does better than street fighter.
Actually it's the animation shown when you use a super.
In a fighting game the mechanics are the entire game. When I was 7 or 8 I was playing DOA 2 with my friend and we loved it. We also didn't give a fuck about the fanservice. Yeah there are people going to get it for the boobs but so what? I'm going to get it for the fighting game.
Aaron-Lagann
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I'm tired.
No worries. So you have an appointment to go to and you're tired? Sounds like the best combination.
ArclightBorealis
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I just woke up, saw that DMC trademark, and people in here arguing about DOA.
Yep, looks like it'll be another typical day for GAF.
Yep, looks like it'll be another typical day for GAF.
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
And it's a psych appointment, so I'll likely seem even crazier than I am.
cdstephens
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Eeeegh, I liked the characters in DA2 more (muh Anders), and disliked how the areas in DA:O were separate and didn't feel like a complete world. If you were arguing about Awakening I'd agree with you, but I found most of the characters in vanilla Origins rather boring.
As for the overarching story both of them suck compared to ME1 and the KOTORs.
Maybe I'm just a sucker for sarcastic female Hawke
That's just my experience after playing the two games back to back.
This sounds like someone that doesn't know anything about fighting games. I'm not saying that disparagingly, because most people don't, but it also means that you have a different set of value judgments than the people the genre caters to.
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