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But he was shitting on it from the start?
VidulaSaix
Member
To be fair they both were, but Pat was at least attempting to enjoy the game whereas Matt wasn't even paying attention half the time near the end.
I made it till around chapter 5 or 6 before the letterboxing really started to annoy me
I might play the PC version some day. I want to see what the game is like with a more stealthy approach.
I'll play it when it's been patched more, and there is no letterboxing on PC
DoktorEvil
Banned
They both were.
E the Shaggy
Junior Member
Gameshark? They still make those?
If he was using an Emulator he could have used it.
They still make game genies lol
I think I meant more that you could tell how disinterested Matt was from the start. Which doesn't make for entertaining commentary. Liam and Pat would have been way better.
Liam should have been involved in some way just because he really liked the game, he also knew what parts would have been awful and could have helped during some of the convoluted parts
DoktorEvil
Banned
He was nicely shitting on the game?
more like making fair assessments for the game.
It seemed more like extreme ignorance than shitting on it. As youtube comments have said (-_-) at lot of his problems seemed to come from his lack of paying attention than the game.
Most of his problems with the game were technical. The letterboxing, framerate, constant crashes. I don't think his attention had anything to do with that. I think his only big gripe with the game itself were the bosses being horribly designed
I think he also thought the movement could be improved but otherwise he seemed to like the actual mechanics of the game.
A lot of his gameplay gripes, problems in moment to moment encounters and puzzles would have been avoided if he payed attention or took it slower (mattless). Thats more a problem with the LP format I guess.
DoktorEvil
Banned
Letterboxing, the PC crashes, the PS4 errors are his fault?
People were getting upset at him doing a double blind LP and him missing items and green goo when he's also talking to Matt.
I don't envy either of them for the shit they get on the Youtube comments, because trying to LP a game and talk to someone and make the commentary interesting is not an easy task.
The problem was doing a double blind LP. People don't like watching bad gameplay.
Again, he didn't have a lot of gameplay gripes. Mostly just the bosses, I still don't understand how that giant monster thing is supposed to be stealthed.
I'm talking about the gameplay obviously. Check my previous comment.
I mean problems he had while actually playing the game. Not his opinions of the mechanics. The problems he had in the moment to moment gameplay. (puzzles, enemies, etc)
I don't remember him having much trouble. Most of his failures were during boss fights, if you're talking about him missing collectables then I don't understand, they have never tried to do 100% runs before.
DoktorEvil
Banned
He played pretty well, all things considered. Go to the TEW thread and there are people still Chapters behind where he is with many more hours of gameplay.
The game is pretty lengthy for a survival horror experience. It's longer than A:I I can say that for certain.
No, the problem with a double blind is that people don't like watching 2 people who have no idea what they are talking about/doing. It works best when one of them at least has an inkling so they can guide the other and minimize the frustration factor for the player and the viewer.
The Evil Within's gameplay is great. Watching someone struggle with it isn't.
I wouldnt go that far, for the type of game TEW is, the game itself is too buggy and janky for the combat to mesh well with me. Even after knowing all the weaknesses and strategies the game itself feels like it's struggling to keep up.
DoktorEvil
Banned
TEW's gameplay is okay, not great. It could be great, but there are too many technical issues.
The biggest hindrance in the game is the camera. It needs to be pulled back.
Letterboxing is the games biggest problem (especially in a game laden with traps). The camera is fine and all the tech problems the game has (lots) didn't detract from how great the gameplay is.
Glitchesarecool
Member
Can't agree more. Matt just didn't give a shit and Pat kept trying to get him engaged with the story. Hell, Solo Pat would have worked better.
I wonder if Matt will actually step up as CEO and play the DLC.
I don't know, nothing about the gameplay seemed great to me. It looks like it's trying to be a mix of RE4 and The Last of us and get's stuck somewhere in the middle.
Fun fact: The solo ep was the best in the whole LP.
Attleborotaco
Member
After the migration to Steamworks, i wanted to do another SL1 run, but on the PC this time at 60 fps. I forgot how much of an asshole bonewheel skeletons are. Fuck the catacombs.
DoktorEvil
Banned
I don't mind the cross between TLOU and RE4. Tango is a relatively small studio, so for them to pump out TEW with 4 years of work (and If I had to guess, the scavenger mechanic was Bethesda's idea), it's a great project from a small team. The expectations and reality however are not equal.
I see TEW as how I see/saw Alpha Protocol. There's great ideas in there but the whole isn't cohesive.
There is a reason people compare it to Eva
Glitchesarecool
Member
I thought so. I really love solo Pat.
I agree, the combination could have been great but unfortunately it just wasn't as good as either. I wouldn't call it bad but I wouldn't call it great either
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
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I liked the EW LP overall, there have definitely been far worse LPs than that, so I think people are just being dramatic, but I do actually agree that Pat and Liam would have been a better fit for this one considering how they had been going on about it on earlier Podcast episodes.
I quite liked EW's story, it had some issues in presentation, but if you paid attention it's actually fine.
I quite liked EW's story, it had some issues in presentation, but if you paid attention it's actually fine.
Yeah, I'll agree with that.
DoktorEvil
Banned
I'd love to see the design docs and dev diaries for the game, because there's just so much in there that shows why Shinji Mikami is good at creating survival horror games.
I have a feeling the things I don't like about the game are Bethesda's fault.
misses bull
Banned
Wasn't it you that said they wanted to start collection Vinyls?
misses bull
Banned
Yes and hotline miami is my personal favorite video game soundtrack so this is amazing news to me.
YesManKablam
Member
Hey Everybody.
I'm only halfway through exams now. So I can take the afternoon off. To work.
Shit.
Oh yeah, I presume Pat is popping a huge boner at the thought of this.
I'm only halfway through exams now. So I can take the afternoon off. To work.
Shit.
Oh yeah, I presume Pat is popping a huge boner at the thought of this.
Is it safe to come back...is TEW talk over now jk
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