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Super Mario Maker |OT| Miyamoto Simulator 2015
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Cool level. I'll give it a star. The only thing is that I wish there were only one row of blocks in each "basket".
OmegaDL50
Member
Wouldn't it be nice if you clear a level during using an Amiibo Costume (Like one you don't have unlocked for example), because you cleared the level with the costume intact and not lost it's power up, this would be an alternative to unlock it instead of having to go through the 100-Mario Challenge.
Of course, I suppose the downside to this is there is nothing preventing one from making Amiibo spam levels making it easy for everyone to unlock everything quickly, so I can see why it wasn't done.
Of course, I suppose the downside to this is there is nothing preventing one from making Amiibo spam levels making it easy for everyone to unlock everything quickly, so I can see why it wasn't done.
Wut? I suck at Mario a lot, but this level is easy!
foomfoom415
Member
Here is my current list of stages. Would appreciate any feedback!
Many Ways to Win
500B-0000-004B-E5B7
I tried to make a level that could be tackled in a variety of ways, never leaving you without options. It can be beaten without picking up a single power-up, though there are plenty available. There are some secrets and shortcuts as well.
World 1-5 Classic
94A2-0000-0050-9C9D
My first Mario Bros. 1 stage. I tried to avoid using many new elements as I wanted something that might fit in the original game, but that was easier said than done. Still, it's somewhat "pure".
Towers and Tunnels
F1D5-0000-0023-489E
My first original level. I tried to make it finish-able in a couple of different states, including a risky hidden area that perhaps makes the rest of the level a bit too trivial if you manage to find it. It has a much lower completion percentage than I would have imagined during its creation. I was surprised it's gotten a lot of good feedback and stars despite its roughness.
1-1 90s Style
DCB4-0000-0024-B925
This is actually 1-1 and 1-2 remade in Super Mario World as one level. It's probably been or will be done to death (and better), but I did it as a way to practice with the editor and it turned out pretty neat. I put a hidden feather in the level (near the hidden 1-up in 1-1) as the feather is pretty disruptive to the technique I used to put 2 levels in one, but it's fun to play around with.
darkness_s
Member
36.80% is a pretty high completion rate.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Alright, so I played this. I have a lot of feedback so bare with me
The Good
The length is solid. This level does not drag on and on. Hard levels that go on for too long are bad design without checkpoints. Good job on keeping it trim. You design is visually consistent. The SMW airship theme has a tendency of getting cluttered. You were abke to avoid that for the most part. The vast majority of this level is actually fun to play. That's the most important thing and you accomplished it.
Needs Work
There are a few bullshit moments. This is my personal opinion but I think that once you clear a section, things from that section should not appear in new sections to kill you without you having the ability to kill them. I got killed by an off screen bone and and off screen hammer. That shit is annoying. The section with the 3 Red Koopas is baf. The pirahna plant right abovw you with the koopa shells closong in basically makes it where 1) go back thtough door and try again, 2) first reaction is jump, plant hits you, 3) tank a hit, 4) if you have fire flower breeze through it. Yoj either need to move all the koopas away from the door 4 blocks or get rid of the plant. You have a lot of help power ups but you hide them in invisible blocks. You rarely put them in question blocks. If its a help item remove the searching and put it in the open. I get they were between boxes but that is a pattern that I had to die several times to figure out.
For a first level this was superb. If this is your first I am really going to be impressed by your later stuff
Robin64
Member
You're better than you think.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Its pretty evident that gaf is pretty good at mario. We sometimes think "not too difficult" is easy and "hard is kaizo". Someone alikened there level to a super mario world star world level. Maybe a lot of us havent played smw lately but that shit was not particularly difficult for 3/5 levels. A lot of the stuff here is special world + difficulty being advertised as a mid world game. You're doing it right
darkness_s
Member
Great, glad you like it! Also, yeah that trampoline section is a bit tricky, but that's the only way I found to make it so that it wouldn't disappear once you go around, which it always did when the bridge used to be more to the left.
Nocturnowl
Member
Man I've still got so much to catch up on, so begins me randomly selecting some stages I've yet to play.
First up...
I like how the final section felt like I was making a little escape, and another fan of swinging chomps I see.
I will say that I made the mistake of jumping down from the tower door for some reason and ended up back at the start, fortunately using some quick thinking I nabbed a Buzzy Beetle, plopped his shell on one of the ascended platforms by the tower door and bounced off it when he emerged so bypass replaying the first section.
So I don't know if you'll consider that a design flaw or clever shortcut.
First up...
Woo! Time for another shameless plug. This time it's my attempt at creating a tower-like stage... in space.
Tatanga's Galactic Tower
265A-0000-0050-EFBC
As a side note, there are so many good stages on GAF, it's a nice break from all the ones featuring 4738383 enemies and cheap challenges.
I like how the final section felt like I was making a little escape, and another fan of swinging chomps I see.
I will say that I made the mistake of jumping down from the tower door for some reason and ended up back at the start, fortunately using some quick thinking I nabbed a Buzzy Beetle, plopped his shell on one of the ascended platforms by the tower door and bounced off it when he emerged so bypass replaying the first section.
So I don't know if you'll consider that a design flaw or clever shortcut.
pinkurocket
Member
Bowser's rocket.
69E9-0000-0051-274C
I tried to create somewhat of a set-piece where you enter a rocket with some platforming on the inside. It shouldn't be too challenging, hopefully it makes sense.
Here's a reworked version of one of my previous and most highly rated levels. Although after watching a few people play through it, there's something I want to change about 3/4 of the way through the stage again.. haha.
Anyways, please enjoy and leave me feedback of what you think. I'd appreciate it!
If the shoe fits.. v1.2
697C-0000-0048-6F38
Anyways, please enjoy and leave me feedback of what you think. I'd appreciate it!
If the shoe fits.. v1.2
697C-0000-0048-6F38
Robin64
Member
My approach is to design skill based action levels (rather than puzzlers) with enough variation and nicely flowing set pieces to reward players who enjoy mastering these kinds of levels.
So, basically I don't really care about the completion rate nearly as much as how many times a person replays the stage (which I consider to be a pretty good marker of how much they enjoyed it).
So it'll probably be lower than 5 percent. I've had people die at the very beginning of a very easy stage, almost like they died on purpose. You said that someone didn't finish a stage they couldn't die on, I assume that it was on purpose. I actually just made a stage you can't die on so my daughter can play. If that stage has any lower than 100% then I have to assume it's on purpose.
Also, I don't trust the average Mario player to beat a high mid tier difficult stage without dying a few times. Also, I don't know how well kids playing this are conditioned for Mario Bros. my wife isn't conditioned for the game, and she also grew up with Mario, and it makes everything seems hard watching her move around without running.
That was one of the first levels i played from the community.. it was awful!
Robin64
Member
What's odd is that it doesn't seem to have started fresh despite the default filter being Weekly and the game having been out over a week now.
Nocturnowl
Member
I made this to advertise my level, hahaha.
This was really well put together, at first I succumbed to a guilty verdict but then I figured out the case for redemption.
Great use of the various blocks, objects and enemies to make this visually feel right.
I think following people you know make good courses is the only way to get consistently good stuff. A patch that allowed you to populate100 Mario challenge from levels of people you follow would also make playing everything easier.
lyrick
Member
I lucked out with my last one on the very top of the page... but no GAF played it (at least within a few hours of that, 0 plays, although I know at least mighty Clark has played it now). We collectively are an odd bunch. I'll play your level right now.
edit: Good stuff, although I would have made the time a little stricter to make you want to rush to work even more.
Wohooo! Thank you very much for playing my humble level
Will take in consideration your feedback to improve!
Robin64
Member
I took the guy who left as a hint that 4% of the time, my level weren't fun. No biggie.
And I want my new course to be hard because my idea is to leave it up for a month or 2 and then see where people die or don't die. Then I will make the hard slots easier and the easy slots harder for the next edition.
Nocturnowl
Member
This was simply wonderful, it was all for the greater good though so I just laughed my way through.
Nazgul_Hunter
Member
I started a level based on Space Invaders and it went a slightly different direction, but check it out: DA91-0000-0050-F452
I modified my most popular level. It's now a tad easier (the skilled jumps are more forgiving) and it's my favorite so far. This one is good if you like traditional style levels. It's medium difficulty (it was previously at 4%, i think it will reach 10% now). Please give feedback, thanks! Note: not sure why the goomba and koopa are in the air in the screenshot, they're placed properly in the real stage.
Classic Endeavours
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Classic Endeavours
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Gotdatmoney
Member
My second level:
Ghastly Gauntlet
(62FA-0000-0051-4860)
I'd love it if someone could play it and tell me if it's too hard. I designed it to be pretty tricky, but definitely not to be too hard.
I was able to finish it without any trouble. But I can inagine a few aspects could get tricky for newer players. 1 issue was throwing the shell up at the off screen blocks. I knew what to do intuitively because I play mario. I dony necssarily think new players will understand you need to the koopa to that location.
The cannon ball spike part is eh. I was big so I didn't die but thr way you have it set up now I wouldn't even bother jumping. Just tank the hit. If you can level out where the spikes are and find a way to make the cannon shots more in sync that would help.
My fav parts were all the platform riding. The ghosts on the tracks was a good idea. Probably better than boo circles.
Yeah, the method Nintendo is using in Course World to arrange new and popular levels is simply awful. A mess I should say. The method they use only works to those who have levels on the top section only to make them more popular. At this pace and if they don't add some kind of update, those top courses will stay there forever because at this point is impossible to create a level that can become insanely popular to reach them. Even Pushmo/Crashmo has a better/fair level finding system than SMM. Those games even use QR codes to search for your levels and stuff, come on!
Yeah and the fact is, in a years time, youtubers will have left, but their levels will always grace the top.
I definitely made the level with those who have actually played SMW in mind. I also like the idea of players having to think a little bit about a puzzle-ish mechanic like that. I was hoping I gave enough clues there for even newbies to get it.
Thanks for playing and critiquing!! I'll see if there's some way I can improve that portion towards the end with the spikes/cannons.
Dude thank you so much for checking it out! That really means alot to me. I appreciate it!
And yeah, after watching people play it on twitch.. I quickly see the mistakes Ive made and wish I could correct, but I dont want to delete the level and lose the stats on it. Im probably gonna make Bombsket-Ball 2 and that is definitely one of the changes I am considering.
Nocturnowl
Member
I'm not usually one for the Clown car based stages but those were some creative ways of giving enemy variety while also escalating the difficulty.New stage!
NSMBU Tileset
"Castlemania 3: Bowser's Curse"
My first experimentation with a full three act structure.
It's not great because I made the acts too distinct and the last one is super short because the level was getting long. I think otherwise it came out pretty well, though.
I'm kind of glad the third act was short because I lost my fire flower right at the start, cheesed my way to the finish.
Tree of Beginnings: 37A5-0000-004D-C561
Here's my submission for the contest. I'm still unclear as to what kind of liberties we can take in regards to designing "1-1" stages, but here's what I've got. Please let me know if it's not traditional enough and I'll try to cook up something more befitting for the contest.
This was the very first stage concept I created and it has evolved a lot over the past week. It should now be completely fail-proof, something that's been a challenge for me considering how the original Mario Bros. template was programmed. There are multiple routes and three "exits". I generally applied my own "rule of three" design philosophy throughout the stage. I also took quite a bit care in the stage aesthetics and added a lot of cosmetic touches (something I've honestly have not been seeing too much within the community).
I liked this a lot as a simple stage, I'm not sure how 1-1 it is though, at least you'll teach them the run button exists.
I went back through to get those three lives taunting me and the top of the flagpole, felt good.
Difficulty felt right to me, I beat it first try.My second level:
Ghastly Gauntlet
(62FA-0000-0051-4860)
I'd love it if someone could play it and tell me if it's too hard. I designed it to be pretty tricky, but definitely not to be too hard.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Sadly there is no adjust feature. I have basically decided I will just upload my levels, get feedback and incorporate all of that into my next levels philosophy.
For reference. My critiques are more about smoothing things over. I didn't find the level hard (1st try) and I thought it was fun so if yoh are going for seasoned players what you have may be fine.
suavelicious
Member
My second upload: 9258-0000-0050-E2EC
I tried to built a rollercoaster type level. It's not supposed to be ultra hard but intense and also fun. There are some optional routes and a hidden bonus area.
Previous upload: Cannonride (9120-0000-0037-02C4)
Btw am I the only one who thinks it kind of sucks to always have to type in the codes to play a level. At least from miiverse on wiiu it should be possible to enter a level directly...
Also is there a way to see levels from WiiU friends directly in the game?
I tried to built a rollercoaster type level. It's not supposed to be ultra hard but intense and also fun. There are some optional routes and a hidden bonus area.
Previous upload: Cannonride (9120-0000-0037-02C4)
Btw am I the only one who thinks it kind of sucks to always have to type in the codes to play a level. At least from miiverse on wiiu it should be possible to enter a level directly...
Also is there a way to see levels from WiiU friends directly in the game?
Xbox Live Arcade Indies Section: The Sequel
Because it was hard for people to find good games there too.
How many do you need for the others? I know it's 1, 50, 150, 300, what thenn? 500 and 750?
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
Everybody Hates Mines
A73B-0000-0051-54A9
They are the worst.
A73B-0000-0051-54A9
They are the worst.
Not sure about everyone ... but some gamedevs have some devilous levels xD
SPECIALY the Shyguy trilogy by Matt "Towerfall and Give Up, Robot" Thorson