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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U DLC |OT2| Lucas comes out of Nowhere!
- Thread starter IntelliHeath
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Shield stun/hitlag, sorry.
Dodges and air dodges are laggier, according to reddit research, and shield regen is nerfed as well.
They nerfed defense across the board, and hard.
RomanceDawn
Member
Wowzers! It all sounds so good! On paper anyway! DK is going to be wrecking shields like crazy!
So in theory does this help characters who are considered low tier who can't just speed blitz the competition like a few other characters can?
Shield breaker moves like the Headbutt got nerfed.
And who knows, it might go the other way, like character you rely on shielding to approach like bowser are gonna be on an even tighter spot.
Characters are locked and only one per crew, so I went Sheik so another good player in my team can go Diddy.
No customs so no Duck Hunt.
Wait, what happened with Kars?
Hard to say exactly what it will do, only time will tell. It will make certain approach options safer, though, and remove some of the importance on mix-ups and instead more a question of good spacing.
Also this made me laugh:
Hard to say exactly what it will do, only time will tell. It will make certain approach options safer, though, and remove some of the importance on mix-ups and instead more a question of good spacing.
Also this made me laugh:
RomanceDawn
Member
Yeah I read that about shield breakers but with these changes it is sounding more and more like despite the value of say DK's shield breaker head butt going down it will ultimately be easier to make it happen because of the other factors. At least that's what I think I saw theorized from other DK players.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
my guess is that he's perfectionist.
Professor Beef
Banned
Karst got banned for going in on a troll, insinuating stuff about his life background and such.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Sakurai's tired of Zero winning at Smash 4 so he stealthily released Smash 4.5
SoldnerKei
Member
anyone around for some 1vs1?
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
You guys remember that time people were stressing about Pikachu
Yet all we have is ESAM
Where's the pro Pikachus at
Yet all we have is ESAM
Where's the pro Pikachus at
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
The only thing to worry about with Pikachu was customs.
Also his hitbox what is that
Also his hitbox what is that
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
@TSMZeRo
Won Smash 4 Ever in New Jersey today! Beat Vinnie, Raptor and Ribs.
Love the new patch.
I mean big house could use it lol
But I'm happy
well shit
Its a good patch, lol.
SolarKnight
Member
Edit: *sigh* nvm I'm an idiot
Just observing from the sidelines here cause I'm traveling at the moment. On one side I don't mind perfect shielding becoming more important, but this has the potential to make projectile characters even harder to get in on, especially Mega Man given one can't perfect shield the buzzsaw. Also wouldn't Sonic be even harder to punish? I don't look forward to this.
Hopefully this works out better than I fear...
Hopefully this works out better than I fear...
Dr. Buni
Member
It is if the game becomes "offensive oriented" to the point zoners/defensive become completely outclassed by rushdown characters. Worst thing that could happen is Smash 4 become another rushdown wankfest like Melee. Hopefully characters like Olimar, Mega Man, Rosalina & Luma and the less rushdown Villager playstyle can still shine.
RomanceDawn
Member
Oh I didn't think about that...
I don't think that it will affect that much defensive characters that thrived on zoning and the neutral game defensive. It is simply that overall, air dodge, rolling and shield are less effective as defensive measures.
While i'm no Pro, I think the game was overly on the defense side.
but maybe i'm wrong.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Well if an opponent doesn't perfect shield Aerial Bowser Bomb they now have a broken shield regardless of who they are.
^_^
Shin_Okita
Member
Anybody around for a few games!?
Cyberman65
Member
Professor Beef
Banned
oh for fuck's sake
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
Hotfix with Sheik nerfs bonus plz
Wyndstryker
Member
Diddy officially in godtier
samurai pls
I check this thread after the latest patch hits, and not only do I learn that Pac remains completely unchanged, but Diddy gets a crazy glitch that makes it immune to any kind of grabbing moves?
Even though I'm still not going to come back to the game, I'm interested in seeing how the changes to defensive options and increased shieldstun pan out. It's cool how this signals that they could very well rework whole parts of the game engine in updates to try things out, even though it might annoy the competitive community if they have to go back and rethink all their strategies to adjust to such large-scale changes to how the game plays.
Even though I'm still not going to come back to the game, I'm interested in seeing how the changes to defensive options and increased shieldstun pan out. It's cool how this signals that they could very well rework whole parts of the game engine in updates to try things out, even though it might annoy the competitive community if they have to go back and rethink all their strategies to adjust to such large-scale changes to how the game plays.
Samurai giveth, samurai taketh.
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
Diddy discovered to be immune to grabs the same day that Zangief is revealed for Street Fighter V? What could it mean?
WAKE UP, PEOPLE
WAKE UP, PEOPLE
Wyndstryker
Member
HL3 confirmed?
SoldnerKei
Member
will this thread be filled with salt too?!
Yikes and lol at that Diddy glitch, but hey, maybe it's just a buff 8)
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Capcom Vs. Nintendo!
Shit and that's not something that can be easily banned in tourneys since grabbing out of shield is such a commonly used thing.
Hope it's fixed fast.
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
Are you for real? This is a game-changer for me, my hands won't get confused between Smash games anymore!
Also lolDiddy
He did deserve a nerf imo, just not as bad as he got them. Original hoo hah was just retarded.
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
Who even plays Smash Bros. anymore anyway?
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
I would play, but I've got some tests coming up that require my attention. After that though, I'm getting back into the grind!
Why does learning have to take so long, I wish I could just major in Smash and make lods of emone
NamikazeBurst
Member
No time for me to play on Wednesdays and Thursdays.