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[SpacePirate Ridley]

"A competitive Smash player is trying to challenge Sakurai to see if he can win and help balance the game. Sakurai asked "have you ever made a game?""

OUCH.

Holy shit.
Also some gaffers would also learn from that quote with some stupid things ive heard about "lazy" devs.

 

[C.Olimar788]

Guys, Mr. G&W isn't necessarily confirmed: "He only appeared onscreen in graphic form as a joke showing he predates pacman"

I mean, it's not like it's likely he'll be cut, but just so we're not disappointed when he doesn't show up on the site.

 

[Soul Beat]

Sakurai laying down the law. lol

 

[FZZ]

Samurai don't play son. Samurai don't play.

 

[Draconian]

Weird dichotomy at Nintendo - Sakurai keeps pushing the "party game" mantra, while Nintendo is pushing Smash as a competitive game by hosting a formal tournament, releasing dedicated GC controller adapters for the "hardcore" players, etc.

If you don't think Sakurai had any input in any of these decisions, then I'm not sure what to tell you.

 

[evanmisha]

"Sakurai, what did you eat for breakfast this morning?"

Yeah, basically. Par for the course

 

[ShadowElliot]

"Sakurai, what did you eat for breakfast this morning?"

 

[MisterGrey3000]

Sakurai considers smash a party game.

smash a party game.

party game

You've done it now.

As a big Smash fan, I don't care.
It's just a label.

 

[greycolumbus]

"Sakurai, do you think I'm pretty?"

 

[jokkir]

Sakurai: "Do you eat shit?"

 

[Alfredo]

but what if he answered yes

What if it was someone who worked on Project M? lol

But seriously, who did that? Inappropriate. >=[

 

[Azure J]

Sakurai putting the body bag in another body bag as we speak, damn.

 

[BassForever]

Sakurai da god just wrecked some "competitive" smasher

 

[Magnet_Man]

This pause is Sakurai facepalming?

 

[Seik]

What's up with people challenging Sakurai and Reggie challenging Hungrybox. XD

 

[Kaljinyu]

No one buy Smash Bros, Sakurai has to learn to stop being Kamiya.

These in-demand freelance developers walk around with their balls on their sleeve, but I didn't think Sakurai had it in him.

 

[AdanVC]

A competitive Smash player is trying to challenge Sakurai to see if he can win and help balance the game. Sakurai asked "have you ever made a game?"

Hire the scarf guy that won the Smash Invitational!

 

[Chie Satonaka]

"A competitive Smash player is trying to challenge Sakurai to see if he can win and help balance the game. Sakurai asked "have you ever made a game?""

OUCH.

This is one of the stupidest things that could ever happen. Why would anyone do this?

Good for you, Sakurai.

 

[Mik317]

that shit that makes your soul burn slow

 

[HerbertFish]

Sakurik bringing the heat

 

[Thoraxes]

"A competitive Smash player is trying to challenge Sakurai to see if he can win and help balance the game. Sakurai asked "have you ever made a game?""

OH SNAP

 

[Berordn]

I love Greninja and everything, but... I don't give a fuck when it was decided it would be in.

I'd like to know, it's interesting insight.

It's not like he's going to say "online is laggy as fuck, don't touch it." Or "there's exactly 49 characters and you've heard them all from the internet already."

 

[Antoids]

whats the famitsu article to which he is referring? i looked and could not find it

 

[Dryk]

Smashboards is dying harder than Neogaf during a Sony conference right now XD

 

[Unlucky]

Jason Schreier @jasonschreier · 1m
Pretty much all the characters in Smash were decided at the beginning of development, Sakurai says. So, um, about those petitions...
https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/476560593428557824

 

[789shadow]

Holy crap, they knew Greninja was something special before X/Y even came out.

 

[HawthorneKitty]

No new Pokemon confirmed.

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

This pause is Sakurai facepalming?

clearly ridey was announced, thus exploding all computers and phones within the premise.

 

[Nvzman]

Melee was competitive AND and party game. Why does competitive automatically mean not a party game?

And why does party game automatically mean not competitive?

Compared to, say, Marvel vs Capcom, Super Smash Bros has always been more of a party game. He might have meant to say it in the light that Smash Bros is meant to be more "fun for the whole family" than "super competitive galore".

 

[Kai Dracon]

I kind of think the "for fun" and "for glory" differentiation within the game itself is an acknowledgement that some people consider it competitive. But on the whole, the bulk of the game and its content which goes far beyond 1vs1 Final Destination isn't/doesn't have to be competitive. Most of it is fun or party content.

Though on the subject of patches Nintendo has proven to not be shy about patching Wii U games. And 3DS games starting with Pokemon. If there's a serious problem like Meta Knight this time, my money is it will be patched.

 

[LOLDSFAN]

Holy crap, they knew Greninja was something special before X/Y even came out.

Dat foresight.

 

[traveler]

Pretty tactless to ask Sakurai in that manner and in this context, but the question and offer itself are fine. Competitive game designers frequently monitor and use the assistance of high level players of their games to tune the games themselves. All the game developing talent in the world won't help you balance a game if you aren't as good as the players who will develop the meta and push it to its limits.

 

[Corronchilejano]

Sakurai tells us to read his article in Famitsu....


...to a bunch of American game journalists.

Even Sakurai is expecting serious questions.

 

[Kaljinyu]

"We decided to use Greninja well before X/Y came out, based on early reference drawings."

So talking to Game Freak about which Pokémon were popular and a good idea, that was lies?

Or was he talking about Pokéball Pokémon?

 

[MetroidPrimeRib]

Greninja confirmed for best starter, put into the game before he was even in his own

 

[Seik]

"A competitive Smash player is trying to challenge Sakurai to see if he can win and help balance the game. Sakurai asked "have you ever made a game?""

There should be photos of the guy's face after hearing the answer.

Must've been awkward as FUCK.

 

[Aaronrules380]

The answer helps understand the vagueness of the gematsu leak at least

 

[georly]

SLOTS CONFIRMMMMMMMMMMED

Michael "TYP" Cole: A: All of the characters to consider were on our internal roster from the beginning of development. We had a slot for a new Pokemon reserved, but did not way for X and Y. We decided to use Greninja well before X/Y came out, based on early reference drawings.

 

[DaBoss]

Well then, he picked the right starter lol.

 

[GuardianE]

The Smash player could have maybe posed his question better, but Sakurai could really benefit from listening to the competitive community. Either take the advice, or don't, but it'll still help you make better, informed decisions.

 

[vinnygambini]

No new Pokemon confirmed.

NOOO NOOOO NOOOOO

I need my Jigglypuff!

 

[Revven]

To be fair, we don't know what the competitive player said or asked that warranted such a response from Sakurai.

Also, technically some Smash players have made a game... >_>

 

[Kandinsky]

a 'Do you eat shit' moment there lol

 

[ShadowElliot]

Greninja confirmed for best starter, put into the game before he was even in his own

Favorite starter of XY!

 

[RustedPieces]

Does anyone a have a good estimation on how long it took Nintendo to update the Smash Bros site with the Mii Fighters and Palutena after the reveal trailer earlier today? Really hope we get to see a Pac-Man trailer after the roundtable, would be an awesome way for Nintendo to send me off to bed after a long day of awesome announcements.

 

[EdibleKnife]

This is one of the stupidest things that could ever happen. Why would anyone do this?

Good for you, Sakurai.

Yep. You don't need to be the lord of games to be good at making them. Sakurai has nothing to prove.

 

[Spinluck]

A+ on considering it a party game. Thank you.

Because that is what it is.

Pretty much, every Smash is a party game.

Melee was a party game that had INCREDIBLE depth and a lot of neat things that made playing it at a high level beautiful and hype.

We all know how Sakurai views the series, it's unfortunate that we won't get the depth of Melee again. I don't agree with him for removing some of that stuff, but people should stop acting like Smash was never meant to be a party game, it's fucking childish.

 

[Cse]

If you don't think Sakurai had any input in any of these decisions, then I'm not sure what to tell you.

Did he? I honestly don't know.

I've read comments from Sakurai in the past that detail his aversion to transforming Smash into something "competitive".

 

[(mat)]

8:03
Michael "TYP" Cole: Q: when was Greninja chosen to be added?
8:03
Neal Ronaghan: Q: When did they decide to include Greninja?
8:05
Michael "TYP" Cole: A: All of the characters to consider were on our internal roster from the beginning of development. We had a slot for a new Pokemon reserved, but did not way for X and Y. We decided to use Greninja well before X/Y came out, based on early reference drawings.
8:07
Neal Ronaghan: Our own Jonny Metts asking about online in Smash Bros.
8:07
Michael "TYP" Cole: Q: online was broken in Brawl. How ensuring online experience will be good this time?

 

[balladofwindfishes]

NOOO NOOOO NOOOOO

I need my Jigglypuff!

New Pokemon. Jiggly puff isn't new. Neither is Mewtwo