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Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Miiverse Update Thread XVI
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Even videos and streams happening right before their eyes too! I think there's some jealousy.
Anyway I need to sleep. It's almost 5am here and I've been watching streams like crazy! So hyped!
EDIT: wait a second... You're post is confusing me now.
Weak as in being easy to pressure, with few options when cornered and that doesn't seem to be a combo-oriented character. He is more of a bait character that prefers to do chip damage with his long range attacks and then finish with his forward smash, up tilt or air attacks. Rush having a 0 frame activation goes well with other sneaky attacks like up tilt (I heard it has invincibility frames at startup) or down tilt.
He looks humiliated.
From Nintendo Europe.
I'm confused.
Are you saying there are combos or not? I've played the demo and some things certainly combo into other things but your post is confusing me.
Neoriceisgood
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Nonsense, this game isn't literally melee so it'd be blasphemy to see any merit in it whatsoever.
(I assume that's the complaint at least]
JediLink
Member
The Darksign brands the Undead, and in this land, the Undead are corralled and led to the north, where they are locked away to await the end of the world. This is your fate.
Also lol if Up B out of hitstun is true. This is what I was just talking about in the other thread - don't jump to conclusions on how good the game is based on a few hours or play. Let's hope it can be patched I suppose.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Or you know, he's not feeling it.
I guess this is what happens when you get sick and spend 12+ hours sleeping it off during Smash hype. A demo.
Good fucking Lord though all these impressions making me grin from ear-to-ear. They fixed knock back, grab mechanics got a second look (I'm seeing lots of low knock back follow ups and actions after the throw animations like a bunch of us asked for post E3), landing lag looks non-existent, there are real new techs that sound fantastic (pivot tilts), and the game even brings older tech with it (shield cancel dashes, dash dancing to a limited degree, and fox trots) along too.
Not too sure how I feel about Mario being so obviously and ridiculously good though. I already have a lot of trauma coming from dealing with his Project M incarnation regularly.
Good fucking Lord though all these impressions making me grin from ear-to-ear. They fixed knock back, grab mechanics got a second look (I'm seeing lots of low knock back follow ups and actions after the throw animations like a bunch of us asked for post E3), landing lag looks non-existent, there are real new techs that sound fantastic (pivot tilts), and the game even brings older tech with it (shield cancel dashes, dash dancing to a limited degree, and fox trots) along too.
Not too sure how I feel about Mario being so obviously and ridiculously good though. I already have a lot of trauma coming from dealing with his Project M incarnation regularly.
I said some of them though. Post like, "what combos?" Without actually playing the game makes it seem as if they're actively trying to dismiss the game for whatever reason.
Maybe some of them are afraid of being disappointed again.
I'm saying the game clearly has combos, and am wondering why some people cannot see it or are choosing not to see it.
Ah okay. Yeah, I agree.
Majukun
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I've always been confused about the relationship netween smash bros competitive players and combos.
I saw the documentary "the smash brothers",and one of the things that was praised about smash was that there were no sure-fire combos and all was done thanks to ones ability and creativity.
now all that matters to play it competitively seems that combos can happen ?_?
I saw the documentary "the smash brothers",and one of the things that was praised about smash was that there were no sure-fire combos and all was done thanks to ones ability and creativity.
now all that matters to play it competitively seems that combos can happen ?_?
SuperAngelo64
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I remember several years ago there was a Brawl booth at E3 and people were posting their impressions after finally getting their hands on the game.
The very first impression posted on GAF was something along the lines of "Mario is a beast! He has amazing combo game!" only to later redact these sentiments once the full game actually came out.
As a Mario main, I'm gonna take this with a grain of salt.
Smash Bros. is a figuratively holistic game in regard to what conventional 'fighting games' would perceive as 'combos'. I've never liked the traditional form of combos that 'lock' as I think it cheapens the game, it's akin to doing a wpm test vs. a freestyle rap battle.
Also drunk as fuck, so none of this could be making a lick of sense.
The very first impression posted on GAF was something along the lines of "Mario is a beast! He has amazing combo game!" only to later redact these sentiments once the full game actually came out.
As a Mario main, I'm gonna take this with a grain of salt.
Smash Bros. is a figuratively holistic game in regard to what conventional 'fighting games' would perceive as 'combos'. I've never liked the traditional form of combos that 'lock' as I think it cheapens the game, it's akin to doing a wpm test vs. a freestyle rap battle.
Also drunk as fuck, so none of this could be making a lick of sense.
solomon
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The melee hate squad was in full force on vgbootcamp stream, heres the thing I like melee but its time to move on. You knows what's gunna interesting when Nintendo tells evo they can only use smash 4.
The 3DS version looks like it's surpassing expectations.
The only barrier will be getting acquainted with the controls, which should take me about a week or so. Some people have already gotten used to after a few hours of play.
Now, if they just announce an International demo soon that'd be great!
I won't count Brawl because no saw the changes coming and did not know to look for them. We have people who hated Brawl saying they're enjoying this.
I also do not remember people getting their hands on a Brawl demo and doing 1v1s. I agree though, I hope this is indeed a step up, and will approach the game impartially.
The only barrier will be getting acquainted with the controls, which should take me about a week or so. Some people have already gotten used to after a few hours of play.
Now, if they just announce an International demo soon that'd be great!
I won't count Brawl because no saw the changes coming and did not know to look for them. We have people who hated Brawl saying they're enjoying this.
I also do not remember people getting their hands on a Brawl demo and doing 1v1s. I agree though, I hope this is indeed a step up, and will approach the game impartially.
But when is it coming out in Americo?
Hopefully, the fact these impressions are coming from a downloadable, unrestricted demo rather than an event booth means they're a little more accurate.
Hot Coldman
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georgetheplushie
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Americo Direct this Friday will reveal all.
You guys are killing me!
I hadn't watched the VGbootcamp stream. I stayed in Makai's hitbox stream most of the night.
His roll seems just as good as the other characters, so yes he's a zoning character with some harder to land kill moves, but having an Up+B that escapes "combos" does not make any sense especially since he can act out of his Up+B. If it's there and intentional it should also be punishable as fuck.
solomon
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Yeah the chat most of the night were people arguing (mostly a melee vs smash4/brawl) it got so bad D1 had to host vg's stream on his channel due to how cancerous the chat got.
Hot Coldman
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yeah and then Megaman can up+B during it, lol
I guess this is what happens when you get sick and spend 12+ hours sleeping it off during Smash hype. A demo.
Good fucking Lord though all these impressions making me grin from ear-to-ear. They fixed knock back, grab mechanics got a second look (I'm seeing lots of low knock back follow ups and actions after the throw animations like a bunch of us asked for post E3), landing lag looks non-existent, there are real new techs that sound fantastic (pivot tilts), and the game even brings older tech with it (shield cancel dashes, dash dancing to a limited degree, and fox trots) along too.
Not too sure how I feel about Mario being so obviously and ridiculously good though. I already have a lot of trauma coming from dealing with his Project M incarnation regularly.
Recover and get sick again so US can get it pls.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Quit crying that a character can break out of combos. Next you'll tell me Soul Calibur 2's Soul Impact was a bad thing to have.
A Link to the Past
Banned
Is Mega Man so good that the Up B thing will be unfair?
No Mario
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
More a technical character IMO.
Icelandic_Jazz
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Any videos of Megaman up b out of combo? I wanna see how big of a deal it is.
JediLink
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Um, am I missing something here? Joke/satire post?
A Link to the Past
Banned
So... More demo, but still no leaks?
Man I didn't expect to win the bet... I didn't want to win the bet
Also where is the thread's title?
That is the thread title, and it's the best thread title. Having no title punctuates the history of these threads as half of the next-gen Smash titles see release soon.
First: I'm using Megaman so far, so this would be a benefit, but I don't think it's a good thing to have for balance if it turns out to be broken.
Second: Very different from just mashing Up+B during a combo string.
Didn't Pikachu fair him during sudden death and he was still able to Up+B? I don't think it'll be a huge problem since you could just rack up percentage on Megaman and then just KO him instead of trying to do larger combos on him, but it's a weird design decision if intentional.
People are too busy playing the demoJapan its been a day and no leaks, I hope by the time I wake up tomorrow we have some leaks
MaverickHunterAsh
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Really happy to see all the excitement and positive early impressions surrounding Smash 3DS in general, the roster balance (so far), combo potential, and of course Mega Man. I told ya'll I wasn't bullshitting when I said the 3DS version felt great, and that was on an earlier build! Been watching the streams and footage like crazy (including our own, thanks Andre!) and it just looks so much smoother than the demo I spent so much time playing at E3 and SDCC. Looks like Mega Man's gotten slight buffs, too!
God, my heart is literally racing watching some of these streams and checking out some of the tricks people have already figured out with Mega Man. I'm so glad people have already figured out that he's not crap and are finding good throw follow-ups and combos with him!
But it's not just Mega Man - every character seems to be perfectly viable so far, and it's exhilarating seeing Link and Mario being so dangerous again! Mario's my third-best in Brawl, so I'm super-excited about the overall improvements he seems to have received speed and combo-wise. Also, I think I noticed it before, but I'm REALLY noticing it now: Link's face (and Link in general, really) just looks so much better in the 3DS version than it does the Wii U version.
Hypehypehypehypehypehypehypehype
Preach, brother. <3
It's just how he says it, I don't know either. It's just a quirk of his, I guess? Don't let it bug you. Derrick and I make up for it by saying it correctly anyway!
Yeah, it's strange. Considering all the time I've sent watching and playing the game in person at various shows, I've only seen Mario's one "punch" victory animation. Obviously we now know that's because the E3 build only had one victory pose per character, but now even watching the streams, I'm seeing various victory poses for every character except Mario, who I've only seen do a victory pose that's not the punch once (it was the "charging fire hand" one from Brawl).
God, my heart is literally racing watching some of these streams and checking out some of the tricks people have already figured out with Mega Man. I'm so glad people have already figured out that he's not crap and are finding good throw follow-ups and combos with him!
But it's not just Mega Man - every character seems to be perfectly viable so far, and it's exhilarating seeing Link and Mario being so dangerous again! Mario's my third-best in Brawl, so I'm super-excited about the overall improvements he seems to have received speed and combo-wise. Also, I think I noticed it before, but I'm REALLY noticing it now: Link's face (and Link in general, really) just looks so much better in the 3DS version than it does the Wii U version.
Hypehypehypehypehypehypehypehype
Preach, brother. <3
It's just how he says it, I don't know either. It's just a quirk of his, I guess? Don't let it bug you. Derrick and I make up for it by saying it correctly anyway!
Yeah, it's strange. Considering all the time I've sent watching and playing the game in person at various shows, I've only seen Mario's one "punch" victory animation. Obviously we now know that's because the E3 build only had one victory pose per character, but now even watching the streams, I'm seeing various victory poses for every character except Mario, who I've only seen do a victory pose that's not the punch once (it was the "charging fire hand" one from Brawl).
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
First: I'm using Megaman so far, so this would be a benefit, but I don't think it's a good thing to have for balance if it turns out to be broken.
Second: Very different from just mashing Up+B during a combo string.
I guess it will require more testing then along with every character's strengths and weaknesses.
A Link to the Past
Banned
Derrick's the one that didn't believe that the leaks were real, right? Even after the video evidence? Has he changed his tune since Shulk's render was revealed?
Vampirolol
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