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Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Miiverse Update Thread XVI
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It's already up a few hours ago. About online and the patch.
kuroneko0509
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Mihael Mello Keehl
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OricWindstar
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Small detail, but the audience cheers also change for alternate skins (just heard them cheer for Morton).
EDIT: Thought I was a shoe-in, but rekameohs beat me!
EDIT: Thought I was a shoe-in, but rekameohs beat me!
Zeyphersan
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JB2448
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Pic of the day quote fodder for those that come in late:
Masahiro Sakurai said:
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAADMUKmBHudeLg
Masahiro Sakurai said:
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/replies/AYMHAAACAAAYUKlmo4m6Iw
OricWindstar
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I've got the multi stream going on for both of the streams showing stuff. Though, I'm about to head to bed.
It's too early to call shit like that, but no one seems to be terribly much better or worse than the rest of the cast so far, which is a great sign.
eh, it's arguable but I don't feel it's as good as PM in the base mechanics, makes up for it in other areas though.
Nirvana
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Jesus christ. Dark Pit and Dr. Mario in and they removed Ice Climbers? What the hell were they thinking?
Defend it all you want, but if they are removing characters like Wolf for the reason that he is too similar to Fox/Falco then adding in these two makes zero fucking sense. Ice Climbers were not only a character of their own, but had original gameplay mechanics, a much better addition to the game than two more copies.
Defend it all you want, but if they are removing characters like Wolf for the reason that he is too similar to Fox/Falco then adding in these two makes zero fucking sense. Ice Climbers were not only a character of their own, but had original gameplay mechanics, a much better addition to the game than two more copies.
Well, as long as it's better than Brawl competitively.
Starwolf_UK
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That would require:The music still hasn't leaked to YouTube?
-The game to have a full sound test menu (does it?) and the players to have it unlocked
-A dump of the game to be unencrypted (this is what made Brawl so quick, I understand for newer games like Smash the answer is currently no)
Maybe it is the gif rendering but it looks wider and a bit faster to move.I'll re-post a .gif of it:
Unlike Lucario's old one, I don't think you'll be able to just dodge through this one with ease.
That is why I was asking
Vampirolol
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WADDA WADDA HEY!?!?!? Holy shit. Best game ever.
to be honest, I'd be very surprised if it doesn't happen. This is the biggest cross-promotion they could possibly go for. See Pokemon. I don't think a DLC pack would unlock them either.
From a business point-of-view I'd be disappointed in Nintendo if it didn't happen. But as a gamer, I, of course, want them all.
OricWindstar
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Well, the main problem is, we don't know why Sakurai removed any of the characters he cut. It's fine to be upset (personally speaking, losing Lucas is a big loss) and critique the final roster, but it does bother me when people try and claim to know Sakurai's inner thoughts on why he made certain roster decisions.
Not that you're doing that. That just seems to be the recurring theme of the thread lately.
I wonder how much of a thing villager stalling is going to be in competitive play, seeing as he can fly under the stage and hitting him out of it just refreshes the recovery.
I don't think that will ever be in any doubt.
I don't think that will ever be in any doubt.
100% man. Lucas and Wolf make sense to me but IC is crazy...
That is probably why they got cut.
Dr. Mario and Dark Pit are easy adds. The Ice Climbers are not (not to mention the apparent work that goes into making IC work). Hell Wolf isn't with all of his unique animations.
so for the last time. Clone characters are not the reason your favorite character is not in the game.
Dr. Buni
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But Smash is nothing like Pokémon. I wish people would stop comparing both series.
I think Nintendo will be shooting themselves on the foot if they require one to buy both versions in order to unlock the full roster, but that is just me.
Waluigilicious
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There's no proof that Wolf was removed because he is "too similar". No one directly takes over someone else's spot.
As far as Dr. Mario is concerned, he existed as MORE of a clone out of a roster of 25 characters, and now he's back, LESS of a clone (Fludd) in a roster of 50. Him being in Melee was far far "worse"
Here's the likely reasons for the cuts:
-Snake: Konami
-Ice Climbers: Time constraints + getting them to work right due to being a multi character
-Squirtle and Ivysaur: Already having Charizard back
-Lucas and Wolf: Purely just time constraints
The new clones barely take any work for them to make, hence, they got in. They were likely not planned, hell, we know this was the case with Lucina. Near the end of game development, Sakurai decided to make Lucina not an alt costume and to make her a clone because it would add another character for incredibly little effort. The same thing likely happened with Dr. Mario and Dark Pit. No one was cut for any of them, if they weren't on the roster, they simply wouldn't be on the roster.
We'll know a lot this week I guess.
Hours Left
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We need clarification on the roster choices for sure, and even more importantly, an indication of whether or not Ice Climbers & co. are still eligible as DLC and/or as part of the Wii U version.
I totally understand the frustration toward Dark Pit, Lucina, etc, but I know that would pretty much be eliminated if original characters like the Ice Climbers are still in the pipeline.
I totally understand the frustration toward Dark Pit, Lucina, etc, but I know that would pretty much be eliminated if original characters like the Ice Climbers are still in the pipeline.
MannyToons
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If anything, I think it's the 3DS limitations that's responsible for the Ice Climbers being cut. It was mentioned by Sakurai that there would be complications implementing them. Dark Pit and Dr. Mario are just there to pad out the roster.
It only refreshes if Villager is hit. It id possible to just pop the baloons, which put Villager in fall state.
MaverickHunterAsh
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Oh my god. Oh my god I can't
Controlling the Starstorm .gif'd.
That is so. Fucking. Cool. I'm totally okay with him still having PK Starstorm now. It's so much better and more badass. <3
This sounds really cool; I like that season-style format of play is being introduced to Smash, at least in a single mode. It's also exciting that we're getting patches confirmed so early on!
Time to patch the Chorus Kids in, Sakurai!
heres a shitty gif i made with starman
I legit laughed. Thank you for this.
THE PAPER MARIO STAGE HAS ROGUEPORT MUSIC? ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS? I NEED TO HEAR THIS NOW
This is the most level headed Miiverse comment ever.
God, this needs to be laminated, framed, and put in every Smash-related OP from here on out. This guy knows what he's talking about. How perfectly stated; I can't believe this came from Miiverse...
Manage to take a screenshot of the item screen:
I guess that's everything?
Looks like that's everything, yeah. Weird to have that one blank box in the corner, but this is a fantastic item selection!
Yes, I think Smash 4 will have some good stuff that makes it good. Can't wait really!
MaverickHunterAsh
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So we know Ness's Final Smash now; are Wario's and Mr. Game & Watch's still a mystery?
Also, can anyone point me in the direction of that stage music list someone (sorry, can't remember who) has been putting together?
Also, can anyone point me in the direction of that stage music list someone (sorry, can't remember who) has been putting together?
I am not comparing Smash and Pokemon. I am saying not including all Pokemon in each version was a very good marketing strategy. The same applies here.
The sales they'd gain would outweigh the complaints, I am sure. Anyway, as I said, I hope it's not the case and every version on its own can get all the characters. I'd just be surprised by it.
PS: Man, Gerudo Valley theme still sounds incredible. (Gema_Yue stream)
Yeah, I can imagine. Saw a bit of Zero's stream and he kept hitting both simultaneously. Maybe with some practise (and the gc controller) it will be easier.
JediLink
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I'm going to have to practice sniping it with needles, I guess.
It never ceases to amaze me how people tend to irrationally project their cut-character anger onto added "clones" who probably took almost no time to make and are most definitely NOT a "replacement" for your favorite cut character.
It's funny, you don't here anyone complaining about Alph or the Koopalings, even though they're basically clones as well. It's this whole (cancerous) character selection screen "slot" mentality.
It's funny, you don't here anyone complaining about Alph or the Koopalings, even though they're basically clones as well. It's this whole (cancerous) character selection screen "slot" mentality.
Game & Watch's is the octopus again, but now lights up different colors.
Man...I can not wait to download this shit soon. I hope the custom parts take a long time to unlock. I can't wait to try to complete Classic Mode on 9.0 with every character.
Wario and Mr. Game & Watch both have their old ones.
MasterCheeze
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Manage to take a screenshot of the item screen:
I guess that's everything?
Oh dang, did they take the fan out? I thought it was in a picture somewhere.
Dr. Buni
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But Pokémon was created from the ground with the concept of exclusive monsters for each version.
Smash Bros is a fighting games series, it doesn't make sense to obligate people to buy two different versions of a game to unlock the full roster.
And... I don't think four extra characters in the Wii U version would help the Wii U that much either.
I can see it happening because, well, it is a Nintendo game, but I hope to god they don't try to force me to buy the same game twice + a new system.
Bjoern the Smexy
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Holy shit man, that Magicant stage makes me wanna cry tears of joy just because it shows scenes of Mother 1 and Earthbound when the background rips open.
It's so incredibly awesome for some reason I cannot explain.
It's so incredibly awesome for some reason I cannot explain.
Based off the streams...I litterally don't think this is possible.
shit is on some SNK shit....well not really but goddam
Waluigilicious
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It can't be compared to Pokemon because the whole point of that is to encourage trading between people. Forcing people to buy the game again for a different console or even finding a friend with the wii U version has no purpose.
However the idea of it being free dlc if you have both versions, and paid dlc if you don't, will work. You can either go out and buy the Wii U version (or be rewarded if you already have it), or pay for the dlc.
However the idea of it being free dlc if you have both versions, and paid dlc if you don't, will work. You can either go out and buy the Wii U version (or be rewarded if you already have it), or pay for the dlc.
Yeah, shit looks insane.
You'd have to make sure you only have 2 needles and that both hit the ballons only.
1 more needle or if you're off slightly and he can recover again.
The only move Mario can edgeguard villager with is his bair, and you have to be incredibly precise, fire balls aren't spammable enough to hit both balloons on the way up.
Or just a well placed fair to destroy the balloons and the villager at the same time.
I'm guessing fire orb will be a good edge guarding tool against villager considering it's multihit and slow moving, unless they keep some upwards momentum after losing their balloons.
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