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http://quas-quas.deviantart.com/

Also:

That's dA...but...oh well (still can't find pixiv account)

 

[munchie64]

I feel like I'm missing something lol

Whoops. I suck at internet sarcasm lol

 

[Kouriozan]

http://quas-quas.deviantart.com/

Oh I missed it.

 

[Hatchtag]

why are people complacent about DLC

We know literally nothing about how it was developed or what it will be, and going off Mario Kart 8 it'll be a damn good deal. No reason to be pessimistic, not yet anyways.

 

[Finale Fireworker]

Yeah, it's strange. Maybe there just wasn't room? Brawls cutscenes were the reason it was two layers, right?

Actually, Brawl was two layers because it was really poorly coded. Every room of the SSE had its own individual files for every asset. So, for example, there were hundreds of identical assets for doors.

Nobody knows why this was.

 

[Dr. Buni]

Wow that makes all the people who got upset about it seem really fucking stupid in retrospect.

The way vaanrose described the taunt, I can understand why people got upset about it.

Do people realized that trophies could be red herring?

Maybe. I still think Dixie might be a DLC character. I do think the trophies kill the theory of "Wii U/3DS link unlockable characters", at least.

 

[PKrockin]

Wow that makes all the people who got upset about it seem really fucking stupid in retrospect.

Who's that?

 

[Jawmuncher]

I gifed the pole dancing taunt. It is not that bad, really.

My new favorite gaffer

 

[Axass]

The dream is dead. Fuck you Sakurai.

At this point I'm

Spoiler

delusional, err, I mean I'm

going to assume that he put in throphies for everybody, regardless of DLC, because if he left out only four-six trophies for very well known characters it'd have been very fishy and there would've been no surprise at launch/reveal.

 

[Golnei]

Hear me out now, what if these characters got trophies cause when they are (hopefully) dlc they will not come with a trophy just the character and maybe stage/music.

They'll still need trophies for clearing Classic and All-Star; and adding in some of those is a far smaller change than a complete character. If DLC characters who already have trophies are in, I could see the existing ones just being renamed in the manner of Brawl's extra Star Fox and Metroid trophies; a Character Name (Specific Game) format.

 

[Axass]

That's dA...but...oh well (still can't find pixiv account)

http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=1535375

 

[Sponge]

So is it really that safe to assume that Smash will get DLC down the road? I was positive about it months ago simply because of the Gematsu leak, but we say how that turned out. Are we assuming DLC because Mario Kart got it?

 

[Golnei]

Actually, Brawl was two layers because it was really poorly coded. Every room of the SSE had its own individual files for every asset. So, for example, there were hundreds of identical assets for doors.

Nobody knows why this was.

That seems really bizarre. I can't imagine anything that inefficient being a deliberate decision, so I wonder what internal limitation forced that on them...

So is it really that safe to assume that Smash will get DLC down the road? I was positive about it months ago simply because of the Gematsu leak, but we say how that turned out. Are we assuming DLC because Mario Kart got it?

It's not completely guaranteed, but seeing as it was present in Pikmin 3, MK8, NSMBU, Awakening and Hyrule Warriors, (though that was more of a KT thing, obviously) it's relatively safe to assume that something like Smash will see some DLC or extra content - we've already had an update add a game mode, after all.

 

[Oberon]

Hello SmashGaf, I was a lurker since the begining and I am now a part of you
So about me

Smash mains: Lucario, Lucas ( ) and Marth
Favorite newcomers: Palutena, Robin,
New mains : Lucina, Robin, Pit, Lucario
Favorite Nintendo Franchises : W101, Fire Emblem, Pokemon , Mario
Biggest Dissapointment : No Waluigi

So that's that
Ps. this my first time posting so be gentle...

 

[C.Olimar788]

They'll still need trophies for clearing Classic and All-Star; and adding in some of those is a far smaller change than a complete character. If DLC characters who already have trophies are in, I could see the existing ones just being renamed in the manner of Brawl's extra Star Fox and Metroid trophies; a Character Name (Specific Game) format.

Exactly. Heck, they could make the new Classic trophies names Character Name (DLC) if they wanted - or, alternately, Melee had at least one pair of trophies that had the same name (Andross). I definitely think trophies mean nothing in terms of DLC and - in some cases, like Wolf suspiciously not using his Brawl design - might even make a character more likely to show up down the line.

 

[Pancakes]

I gifed the pole dancing taunt. It is not that bad, really.

People were getting upset over a little twirl? Smh.

 

[Kouriozan]

Falco time!

 

[Loco4Coco]

So is it really that safe to assume that Smash will get DLC down the road? I was positive about it months ago simply because of the Gematsu leak, but we say how that turned out. Are we assuming DLC because Mario Kart got it?

Them gray spots on the CSS.

 

[Hatchtag]

Is that a new Dixie model or an old one? Cut Brawl characters got only recycled things, even ones who were arguably important enough to have new models. I'd imagine if Dixies got only an old model for a trophy, that could easily be the case.

 

[Kouriozan]

"Landing lag...abomination?!"

LOL

 

[Jawmuncher]

I still say the DLC is going to be stuff were not expecting when it comes to newcomers.

 

[Loco4Coco]

I still say the DLC is going to be stuff were not expecting when it comes to newcomers.

Hope so too.

 

[Axass]

So is it really that safe to assume that Smash will get DLC down the road? I was positive about it months ago simply because of the Gematsu leak, but we say how that turned out. Are we assuming DLC because Mario Kart got it?

Yep, after MK8 I'm quite certain they'll have DLC at 6 months intervals. After all Smash is one of the most important IP to Nintendo now, due to Amiibos and the need to sell Wii Us. It's also cheaper than developing more games for a dying system.

 

[Kensho]

Really? The only 2 mega man tracks are Mega man 2 Medley??? I love that medley more than anybody but there are tons of great songs in the Mega man games to use T_T

 

[『Inaba Resident』]

Whats up, SmashGAF?
Long time lurker but I finally got my account activated.
Are there any impressions regarding online with two people in Japan?

 

[Hypemaster]

Hello SmashGaf, I was a lurker since the begining and I am now a part of you
So about me

Smash mains: Lucario, Lucas ( ) and Marth
Favorite newcomers: Palutena, Robin,
New mains : Lucina, Robin, Pit, Lucario
Favorite Nintendo Franchises : W101, Fire Emblem, Pokemon , Mario
Biggest Dissapointment : No Waluigi

So that's that
Ps. this my first time posting so be gentle...

Whats up, SmashGAF? Long time lurker but I finally got my account activated. Are there any impressions regarding online with two people in Japan?

Welcome to SmashGAF fam!

 

[Spinosaurus]

Falco nerfs seem bad.

 

[C.Olimar788]

So is it really that safe to assume that Smash will get DLC down the road? I was positive about it months ago simply because of the Gematsu leak, but we say how that turned out. Are we assuming DLC because Mario Kart got it?

They would be crazy not to make Smash DLC - next to Mario Kart, it's the Nintendo franchise that DLC makes the most sense for. The only possibility I see for them not making DLC is if the team just completely breaks up once the games are done and Nintendo doesn't get some other team on the DLC front - but that seems unlikely to me.

And I still firmly believe we'll see some Wii U exclusive characters that are also 3DS DLC, because it makes too much sense.

Spoiler

And I was inexplicably right about the roster having no transformation characters so I must be psychic, probably.

Really? The only 2 mega man tracks are Mega man 2 Medley??? I love that medley more than anybody but there are tons of great songs in the Mega man games to use T_T

The Smash Direct featured a remix of Spark Man's theme (Mega Man 3) so at the very least the Wii U version will have more Rock music.

Spoiler

Hehehehe

 

[sfried]

http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=1535375

Thanks man!

 

[Storm Kyleis]

Do we know yet the format of screenshots and videos?

Hello SmashGaf, I was a lurker since the begining and I am now a part of you
So about me

Smash mains: Lucario, Lucas ( ) and Marth
Favorite newcomers: Palutena, Robin,
New mains : Lucina, Robin, Pit, Lucario
Favorite Nintendo Franchises : W101, Fire Emblem, Pokemon , Mario
Biggest Dissapointment : No Waluigi

So that's that
Ps. this my first time posting so be gentle...

Whats up, SmashGAF?
Long time lurker but I finally got my account activated.
Are there any impressions regarding online with two people in Japan?

Welcome!

 

[Gleethor]

Has anyone uploaded any of the music anywhere?

 

[emb]

Falco nerfs seem bad.

I heard about the dair and lasers before I saw them, but I didn't think they could be so bad. Dair especially, wow.

Why even have anything happen when you press down a? Just take the move away if you're gonna do that.

 

[Dr. Buni]

Is that a new Dixie model or an old one? Cut Brawl characters got only recycled things, even ones who were arguably important enough to have new models. I'd imagine if Dixies got only an old model for a trophy, that could easily be the case.

t is a new model, a much cutter one, at that. Here is the old one.

 

[RadioJoNES64]

EDIT: Wrong Thread

 

[Error404SwagNotFound]

Do people realized that trophies could be red herring?

I'd like to think anything is possible. There's really no strict formula for Smash, and none of the games have a set of rules that have been followed to the note, really. Even though we have a full roster right now, anything could be on the table in the future. Who knows.

 

[Sponge]

Yep, after MK8 I'm quite certain they'll have DLC at 6 months intervals. After all Smash is one of the most important IP to Nintendo now, due to Amiibos and the need to sell Wii Us. It's also cheaper than developing more games for a dying system.

Here's what I'm concerned about.

Sakurai builds up a team after a game comes out, and once it's finished they split up. It happened with Brawl's team of Monolith, Games Art, and Paon, '"Project Sora" on Kid Icarus, and it'll probably happen with Namco Bandai. If Namco splits after the Smash Wii U release, who is gonna make the DLC?

 

[Kouichi]

Falco nerfs seem bad.

Losing short hop lasers was expected, but the D air nerf surprised me.

This doesn't worry me at all. I'm actually looking forward to adapting to the changes.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Asking again

Not yet.

Aeana senpai, Emcee kun, hear my cry...

I really feel the Miiverse Update threads should come to an end when this topic runs its course. I know some people have made some excellent points on why they need to remain, but I feel like it fractures discussion. Why should I talk about anything Smash related in the official thread when more people are here and my posts about the game will have more feedback in this thread? I don't see the harm in moving everything to the excellent official thread. OTs are not solely for the discussion of gameplay mechanics, but anything revolving around the game itself. We can still discuss Miiverse updates in the OT as it relates to news about Smash, which typically OTs are used for. We all know these threads are not merely for discussion about Miiverse pics, but for Smash as a whole. This kind of discourse needs to be in the official thread.

This thread should remain to staying open for Wii U users.

Do you have a link to the artists portfolio?

http://quas-quas.deviantart.com

 

[Kyzon]

I"m so moist right now!

Also, I'm playing Palutena when the game comes out and spamming the pole taunt after every kill.

Boom, bam, yam.

 

[Axass]

Here's what I'm concerned about.

Sakurai builds up a team after a game comes out, and once it's finished they split up. It happened with Brawl's team of Monolith, Games Art, and Paon, '"Project Sora" on Kid Icarus, and it'll probably happen with Namco Bandai. If Namco splits after the Smash Wii U release, who is gonna make the DLC?

Sakurai by himself.

Jokes aside, no DLC for this game would be a marketing suicide for Nintendo. I find it highly unlikely.

 

[IntelliHeath]

The dream is dead. Fuck you Sakurai.

Did you see picture of King Rool Trophy too?

 

[rawktapus]

Here's what I'm concerned about.

Sakurai builds up a team after a game comes out, and once it's finished they split up. It happened with Brawl's team of Monolith, Games Art, and Paon, '"Project Sora" on Kid Icarus, and it'll probably happen with Namco Bandai. If Namco splits after the Smash Wii U release, who is gonna make the DLC?

Alfonzo: leave it to me!

 

[Golnei]

Here's what I'm concerned about.

Sakurai builds up a team after a game comes out, and once it's finished they split up. It happened with Brawl's team of Monolith, Games Art, and Paon, '"Project Sora" on Kid Icarus, and it'll probably happen with Namco Bandai. If Namco splits after the Smash Wii U release, who is gonna make the DLC?

I'd think that even if the content of the DLC wasn't planned until later in the development process, the possibility would have been considered earlier on, which would also have affected the initial contract. I don't think it's unreasonable for them to have planned to only dissolve the team after the release of DLC. Though downsizing would probably occur - they probably don't need to keep the entire development staff on hand.

 

[Dr. Buni]

Did you see picture of King Rool Trophy too?

.

 

[Kyzon]

Wait.... people think this is bad?

Wow.... I have no words.

 

[Galang]

I gifed the pole dancing taunt. It is not that bad, really.

That's the taunt... It's laughable anybody got offended by this.

 

[Blizzard]

Really? The only 2 mega man tracks are Mega man 2 Medley??? I love that medley more than anybody but there are tons of great songs in the Mega man games to use T_T

Doesn't the 3DS Smash only have 2 tracks per stage? Wii U should have some more, though I really hope there's some way to use them on stages without the yellow devil.

 

[Sponge]

.

I love the pose!

 

[Loco4Coco]

.

At least he's in the game unlike Ice Climbers...

 

[Axass]

That's the taunt... It's laughable anybody got offended by this.

Fact is they got offended before even seeing it, just from reading a text description. They wanted to get offended by it.