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Super Smash Bros. for Wii U |OT2| Only Game Where You Can Beat Up The Duck Hunt Dog
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Me going too far for Meteor Bomb shenanigans lol
SoldnerKei
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SoldnerKei
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Oh god, I love flying kirby.
SoldnerKei
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Hi! Hi! Hi!
SoldnerKei
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lucina had a mental breakdown, she saw the Grima on kirby
I can see Kirby's customs making him quite good. Giant Hammer and Jumping Inhale are very good lol.
SoldnerKei
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got me good with that hammer lol, jump inhale looks hilarious thou
RomanceDawn
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1on1 anyone?
Ooh. You can actually hold the jumping inhale!
SoldnerKei
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yeah, didn't know that either
gonna use some falcon, dunno if his customs are good, but I don't have any set with him, only a smoothlanding with close to zero stats, but not gonna use that lol
did kirby got stuck for a bit on that part of the stage? xD
SoldnerKei
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yeah, kinda late over here too
Good games Vena, I haven't mess around much with custom so it was great to play with them, a lot of characters feel kind different indeed , Ganon is pretty awesome with those customs, again GGs
I like just fucking around with customs to learn what they even do haha. GGs as always.
Snacks the sober sea lion
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It's stupid that Greninja got nerfed 3 times as hard as anyone else when he wasn't even that strong of a character to begin with. If they don't fix his Water Shuriken recovery time and give him some kill power or new options, it's hopeless for him. His forward air has a major delay yet is weaker than several instant forward airs, his counter is a joke, Shadow Sneak has very few if any practical purposes outside of recovery, his forward tilt is so laggy it can be punished by some smashes. Just a complete mess of a character.
I feel like with all of the complaining, there isn't going to be much refinement to characters who just aren't any good. There are a good number of characters who need a bit more than what they have, but I don't see how we're going to get anything but nerfs in any patches.
I feel like with all of the complaining, there isn't going to be much refinement to characters who just aren't any good. There are a good number of characters who need a bit more than what they have, but I don't see how we're going to get anything but nerfs in any patches.
Karsticles
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Seeing I never got the 3DS version, I never got to see full powered Greninja, so when I actually tried him in the Wii U version, I was pretty confused as to what the fuzz was about. He feels incredibly hard to use withou any clear rewards. I guess his nair is pretty good...
Alright, getting in on this one. When is it starting?
Karsticles
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I plan on starting shortly after the current season finishes. I'll probably need a weekend to figure out the seeding for the new brackets.
InvincibleAgent
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Well, we can vote on it now. I just think it takes away from the "I earned that KO" feeling if your opponent gets caught in it. "Well, I did KO him, but a lot of his damage was from that laser" is not a thought I want to mull over after a match. This is why we don't use items.
Does the No-Flinch equipment protect specials too?
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So if I understand the Ranbat rules you only have to play 1 set per week?
How hard has it been to find available opponents for you guys each week? I have maybe two week nights that generally works best for me, would that be too tight?
How hard has it been to find available opponents for you guys each week? I have maybe two week nights that generally works best for me, would that be too tight?
InvincibleAgent
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Eh, it varies. Some weeks I knock out a few opponents (Or get knocked out by them, cough cough). Some weeks it seems like nobody's on.
Out_Of_Ammo
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I joined again, enjoyed the last season.
SoldnerKei
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done with the survey, looking forward to this season!
Gucci Messiah
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awesome avi
Signed up. Looking forward to this season!
Is this for Wii U only?
Shamrock7r
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I'm guessing my bracket is going to be pretty intense. Can't wait
I just bought a GC adapter just to see how well I'll play Smash 4 using the Smash GC controller I bought as a collectible. And I just sucked badly lol. My muscle memory on the Wii U pro and 3DS messed up how I play using the old GC controls.
For those who have/had the same experience, any tips or best config to help adjust with the controls?
For those who have/had the same experience, any tips or best config to help adjust with the controls?
Captain Rage Quit 69
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Alright, in for season 2! Can't wait, hope the competition is even greater. Given I might be stuck in bracket 1 again, I'm worried I can't keep up. D:
Shamrock7r
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Gonna try this suggestion. Thanks shamrock!
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Finally season 2!
Hopefully I would able to get better with my skills. I have been in slump lately.
Hopefully I would able to get better with my skills. I have been in slump lately.
MagiusNecros
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I'm in. Hopefully my bracket won't SD this time.
RomanceDawn
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1on1 anyone?
I'll 1v1, you hosting?
Hi gaf
Ok, relax... I'm just gonna tackle these in order.
Water shuriken is fine. Was the old one broken? Probably not, but it was obviously a little too strong in tandem with his other tools. Uncharged version still forces a lot of characters to approach and the charged version is still a strong cover for your own approach. It's not something that's spammable, but it's good as a light zoning tool.
As far as kill options go, his strongest ones are offstage. B-air and U-air are both multihit and come out near instantaneously, which means air dodging them is almost a complete guess. He has the fall speed and jump height to bait out air dodges and punish on reaction. He's clearly not designed as a character that's supposed to kill you from the middle of the stage and he'd just be silly if he could.
F-air has a huge, disjointed hitbox that makes it a strong option for punishing damaging recoveries that are risky to punish for lots of other characters. It has decent knockback which, combined with his jump height and ridiculous recovery, allows him to chase most characters very far offstage with next to no risk. It's not an air-ground pressure tool, that's what N-air and D-air are for.
Counter does kind of suck. It's an amazing punish for people that are too predictable with divekick style moves and... not much else. Shadow sneak is terrible on the ground, but it's a great aerial tool. Offensively it's a fairly safe option to throw out on people trying to land from above you and it's good for threatening recoveries. Defensively it can be used to mix up your own recovery while also making it dangerous for other characters to chase you offstage.
F-tilt is a long range poke that's very difficult to punish IF it's spaced properly, and it's even harder if you're far enough away to whiff. If your F-tilt is getting punished consistently then you're using it at ranges that you should be using D-tilts or jabs at. Its range easily makes it one of the stronger pivot F-tilts in the game.
His actual biggest weaknesses are his pathetically slow grab and the spike on the first hit of U-smash making it borderline useless against people standing on platforms above you. He has a lot of trouble against characters with strong aerial pressure like Sheik/ZSS/Mario/Fox who would otherwise need careful spacing to avoid getting shield grabbed out of everything, and his jab isn't quite good enough to make up for it. His mobility is more than enough to stay out of situations like that but most of those same characters have better zoning tools than him, so it's kind of a lose/lose situation.
tl;dr Greninja definitely takes some work, but he's a solid all-around character with a few very specific holes. I don't think you'll find anyone arguing that he's top tier but he's absolutely nowhere near a "complete mess."
Ok, relax... I'm just gonna tackle these in order.
Water shuriken is fine. Was the old one broken? Probably not, but it was obviously a little too strong in tandem with his other tools. Uncharged version still forces a lot of characters to approach and the charged version is still a strong cover for your own approach. It's not something that's spammable, but it's good as a light zoning tool.
As far as kill options go, his strongest ones are offstage. B-air and U-air are both multihit and come out near instantaneously, which means air dodging them is almost a complete guess. He has the fall speed and jump height to bait out air dodges and punish on reaction. He's clearly not designed as a character that's supposed to kill you from the middle of the stage and he'd just be silly if he could.
F-air has a huge, disjointed hitbox that makes it a strong option for punishing damaging recoveries that are risky to punish for lots of other characters. It has decent knockback which, combined with his jump height and ridiculous recovery, allows him to chase most characters very far offstage with next to no risk. It's not an air-ground pressure tool, that's what N-air and D-air are for.
Counter does kind of suck. It's an amazing punish for people that are too predictable with divekick style moves and... not much else. Shadow sneak is terrible on the ground, but it's a great aerial tool. Offensively it's a fairly safe option to throw out on people trying to land from above you and it's good for threatening recoveries. Defensively it can be used to mix up your own recovery while also making it dangerous for other characters to chase you offstage.
F-tilt is a long range poke that's very difficult to punish IF it's spaced properly, and it's even harder if you're far enough away to whiff. If your F-tilt is getting punished consistently then you're using it at ranges that you should be using D-tilts or jabs at. Its range easily makes it one of the stronger pivot F-tilts in the game.
His actual biggest weaknesses are his pathetically slow grab and the spike on the first hit of U-smash making it borderline useless against people standing on platforms above you. He has a lot of trouble against characters with strong aerial pressure like Sheik/ZSS/Mario/Fox who would otherwise need careful spacing to avoid getting shield grabbed out of everything, and his jab isn't quite good enough to make up for it. His mobility is more than enough to stay out of situations like that but most of those same characters have better zoning tools than him, so it's kind of a lose/lose situation.
tl;dr Greninja definitely takes some work, but he's a solid all-around character with a few very specific holes. I don't think you'll find anyone arguing that he's top tier but he's absolutely nowhere near a "complete mess."
Karsticles
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RomanceDawn
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No! Awful games! You didn't taunt once! Everything is serious bidness! Like Subspace!
Good games! What kind of connection are you on? And were you just picking random? You were good with everyone you used.