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Super Smash Bros. for Wii U |OT2| Only Game Where You Can Beat Up The Duck Hunt Dog
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Vermillion
Banned
Anyone wanna play w/ customs?
Professor Beef
Banned
Yeah, add me if you havent
Shamrock7r
Member
GGs Direct. You are improving a lot man
GGs, but yeah, that lag sucked. We should call it for now; it's unfortunate.
SoldnerKei
Member
yeah, but lag came back, I guess it's not a good night for wifi xD
nevertheless good games Flux, I recall you use Sonic, hopefully we will have a better chance to clash with mains next time, GGs
direct_quote
Member
Thanks always fun to play, ggs. I kept getting griefed by that magnet though >_< . I need to try and gimp Ness more or something..
edit: if anyone wants to play some games, nnid: direct_quote..
Shamrock7r
Member
Yea, essentially the thing with the PSI Vaccuum is, because of Ness's other moves, it's easy to lure them into it. Ness has great aerials, so if he comes up after you, chances are you are going to dodge, so as a change up I hit the vaccuum and it sucks you right in while you are dodging and I get a hit. It can keep you in PK Fire. If Ness hits it on the ground, it has the character land on the floor in a way where you can follow up with dash attack, or maybe even something better. Then it really screws with some people's recoveries because the pull in is so great.
Did you notice while we played I essentially figured out a 0-55 percent combo using it? Might have been more, but it was pkfire ->dthrow -> fair -> PSI Vacuum -> dash attack
Beelzebufo
Banned
That stupid leak made me buy Legends since it was $10 on PSN 
I must say, I'm loving it so far (there's so much to do!) but my least favorite part by far is the characters. Every time I unlock a new character I get excited until I realize it's just that frog (which you'd think I'd love), that annoying girl, or one of the teensies (which much be the worst designs ever). I like Rayman the most, but even he's just the least annoying.
So I'm glad it was fake as of now. Maybe the stage would have been cool though.
I must say, I'm loving it so far (there's so much to do!) but my least favorite part by far is the characters. Every time I unlock a new character I get excited until I realize it's just that frog (which you'd think I'd love), that annoying girl, or one of the teensies (which much be the worst designs ever). I like Rayman the most, but even he's just the least annoying.
So I'm glad it was fake as of now. Maybe the stage would have been cool though.
Yeah it's like a ghetto shine, lol. It can throw people off for sure, but I don't think it's that great unfortunately, but has some uses for punishing rolls/air dodges. Definitely worth having over PSI Magnet against characters without projectiles though.
direct_quote
Member
Yah that was pretty good, but I do wonder how punishable it was when you were using it in neutral. Is that his only worth while custom?
Shamrock7r
Member
It's not some magnificent game changer, but It gives you a ton of new options if used correctly. I'd encourage you to try it out some more. I know you can figure out some cool stuff with it
Most of Ness's customs are useless. A few are very very situational. Vacuum is the only one I can see using more often than the original, and it's still based on the matchup, because any character with easy magnet/healing opportunities, you are going to go with that. Lasting PK Thunder is ok, but the tradeoff in losing PK2 kill power (which is much easier to hit in this game), and the harassing with PKThunder in the air is too much to give up for a slight increase in recovery range. The other one is terrible and I can only see being useful in 2v2s maybe. Lucas Magnet may be alright, but it seems to have a little more lag at the end, and doesn't heal as much. Lucas PK fire I can only see being useful for 2 or 3 matchups (Jiggly Puff, Kirby, maybe one other), and the other one is terrible. Rising PK Flash is worthless, and so is PK Freeze. If Freeze covered the same distance as Lucas' in Brawl, it would be different, but it pretty much follows the same distance as Flash.
Vermillion
Banned
Is your NNID the same as your PSN ID?
Professor Beef
Banned
Vermillion
Banned
Professor Beef
Banned
I gotta brb real quick, need to handle some delivery stuff
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
Tell me about it. @__@
Professor Beef
Banned
Professor Beef
Banned
The one after this is the last one, Vermillion. The lag is too strong.
Karsticles
Member
Why does this look so radically different from the current CSS?Chrom and Ice Climbers HYPE
Shamrock7r
Member
Old mockup. Notice how characters are missing like Pac-Man
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
Not only that, but certain characters aren't using their official renders (Jigglypuff, Wario, Meta Knight.)
Vermillion
Banned
Yeah, lag's unbearable. You're good, though. Maybe we can play on another day.
Professor Beef
Banned
GGs Vermillion. That Custom UpB is annoying to deal with.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
Something tells me we won't be seeing customs in doubles any time soon.
Shamrock7r
Member
Just that move. Nothing wrong/hard with banning that move till it's fixed
Vermillion
Banned
Yeah, lol. It's really way better than Final Cutter. I was trying to get that Meteor Stone off trump, but can't do it. I think I'll stick with regular Stone, and maybe Hammer Flip.
Related: A friend joined me after our match, and we have a good connection. He is fucking me up. He won't stop pressing buttons.
Holy shit, so many customs kill Beef ;_; So many. Dude is dancing all over the place and killing me with... a Tornado custom? I don't know what's happening
direct_quote
Member
God damn crazy order give me more customs....
Vermillion
Banned
Wait, no, dude's definitely using equipment lol. False alarm. I'm still getting wrecked... but I'm not using equipment.
#sensiblejohns
#sensiblejohns
Yep that's me, every other time. 205 customs and still going....
If you are talking about me (since your posts show up when I look for mine): the funny thing is that you are not playing against me but my little brother who uses my Wii U from time to time. Afaik he's on Smashboards, you can get in contact with him there; his name is LayingSnow
InvincibleAgent
Member
IMO the great thing about doubles is you can pull off moves that are way too punishable for 1v1, because your ally is keeping the closer opponent occupied. Things like Ganon's neutral B or Ike's F-smash. On the other hand, you can build up damage way quicker with moves with no knockback by teaming up on someone, e.g. Sheik neutral A combo mixed with Ness's PK Fire.
Tell us who your friend's mains are too, and we'll think about what teams you can make from those.
I'm not even worried about Shamrock. I gotta get up to mid-level before I even consider playing him
InvincibleAgent
Member
Games & More > Solo > Stadium > Target Blast
Watch the How to Play video, play the Stadium modes, check out Classic, try to beat all the events, play some matches online in "For Fun," play some people on here, go through the challenge board doing the things the challenge board says.
I've been messing around with customs with every character since the JPN 3DS release, I think it's like Kong Cyclone, it'll throw you off and it does add options but once people get used to it, it's not super crazy yeah (though DK's Kong Cyclone is a bit different in that it pushes him from mid tier to like a high tier character on a stage with platforms). I think it's pretty effective in mixing up with PK Fire to punish rolls since PK Fire can be punished pretty badly if the opponent is watching for it. It's probably Ness's most interesting custom for sure.
Speaking of Kong Cyclone, PSI Vaccuum can clash with it in some hilarious ways.
As a Lucas main in Brawl it's pretty disappointing the ported over PK Fire and PK Freeze aren't even as good for Ness. PK Fire is much more laggy.
I agree it would be more useful against Kirby and Jigglypuff but those matchups are rather easy for Ness anyway.Upper Cutter is fantastic. Meteor Stone is pretty bad due to the end lag. Regular stone is best just for the surprise bairs you can do out of it sometimes, and the occasional "get off me" move when people are juggling Kirby. I also think Jumping Inhale is one of the best customs for Kirby too.
Man I hope customs and the recent push for it after Apex gets more steam. It really changes a lot of the matchups in interesting ways.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Yep, Chemistry is the biggest deciding factor on who I'm going to choose. We are going to do TCG (Texas Gaming Championships) in Houston.
IMO the great thing about doubles is you can pull off moves that are way too punishable for 1v1, because your ally is keeping the closer opponent occupied. Things like Ganon's neutral B or Ike's F-smash. On the other hand, you can build up damage way quicker with moves with no knockback by teaming up on someone, e.g. Sheik neutral A combo mixed with Ness's PK Fire.
Tell us who your friend's mains are too, and we'll think about what teams you can make from those.
I'm not even worried about Shamrock. I gotta get up to mid-level before I even consider playing him
-Ness
-Olimar
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Chrom and Ice Climbers HYPE
i #believe
I really like the synergy of Little Mac + Ness in doubles. PK Thunder can save Little Mac sometimes, and they can cover each other's laggy moves like PK Thunder 2 or Little Mac's smashes. The craziness of 2v2 lets Little Mac get away with more too.
Luigi is a great character in doubles too just for the hitbox on back throw if you need to get people off of you (an opponent's partner trying to hit Luigi while he's grabbing for example).
Shamrock7r
Member
I've been messing around with customs with every character since the JPN 3DS release, I think it's like Kong Cyclone, it'll throw you off and it does add options but once people get used to it, it's not super crazy yeah (though DK's Kong Cyclone is a bit different in that it pushes him from mid tier to like a high tier character on a stage with platforms). I think it's pretty effective in mixing up with PK Fire to punish rolls since PK Fire can be punished pretty badly if the opponent is watching for it. It's probably Ness's most interesting custom for sure.
Speaking of Kong Cyclone, PSI Vaccuum can clash with it in some hilarious ways.
As a Lucas main in Brawl it's pretty disappointing the ported over PK Fire and PK Freeze aren't even as good for Ness. PK Fire is much more laggy.
Yea, they totally missed the point with Lucas PK Fire and Magnet. What made them good in Brawl was the way they changed/supplemented Lucas's momentum in the air. Pk Fire shooting him backwards, and Magnet not stopping you dead in your tracks.
Shamrock7r
Member
You'll be back
I suppose. Sooner or later. I'm looking forward for meetwo, miiverse stage and online tournament. I'm incredibly busy now though, with two jobs, I hardly have much free time anymore
Upper Cutter is so awesome. Gives Kirby a KO move, a much better recovery, a combo ender, a good "Shoryuken"-ish/OoS move (I remember reading it has a couple invincibility frames at the beginning)...I really wish it was his default up special. Mostly been rocking 3231 for Kirby and it's a lot of fun.
You should play me again sometime.
You should play me again sometime.
I will if you want. I mean, I think i'm meh for never playing, but yeah :/ probablyy not