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Super Smash Bros. for Wii U |OT2| Only Game Where You Can Beat Up The Duck Hunt Dog
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MaverickHunterAsh
Member
I'm stuck between the Chorus Kids and Shovel Knight for my ballot vote.
They're my two most-wanted newcomers by far, but I feel like even though Shovel Knight is going to get a lot more votes than the Chorus Kids, he ironically has far less of a chance simply because he's a third-party character... not to mention the "iconic blue third-party character" quota is already more than filled by Mega Man and Sonic. Shovel Knight doesn't exactly bring anything exceptionally new to the table, and we know from what Sakurai has said that a third-party character has to be particularly special and fill an obvious gap in the roster to even be considered.
So... I guess I'm leaning more toward voting for the Chorus Kids. Hmm.
They're my two most-wanted newcomers by far, but I feel like even though Shovel Knight is going to get a lot more votes than the Chorus Kids, he ironically has far less of a chance simply because he's a third-party character... not to mention the "iconic blue third-party character" quota is already more than filled by Mega Man and Sonic. Shovel Knight doesn't exactly bring anything exceptionally new to the table, and we know from what Sakurai has said that a third-party character has to be particularly special and fill an obvious gap in the roster to even be considered.
So... I guess I'm leaning more toward voting for the Chorus Kids. Hmm.
It doesn't matter anyway, because Ridley is obviously going to get the most votes. 
Do you have an ethernet adapter for your Wii U? That definitely should make a difference. There's still potential for things to be bad with random other people that don't have an adapter or just have bad internet themselves, but for the most part games should be fine as long as you have it.
Really damn I always thought it was the game, I might try moving my wii u to another room I was always skeptical that this was the problem because Mario kart never had problems, but maybe it is thanks at least I have some hope
No I connect wirelessly, I believe the problem might just be my room, it is kind of known for being a dead zone at times but didn't think it was the problem since my set up is close to the door and I didn't have problems with other games on wii u
Edit: sorry for the double post didn't realize
Racing games (and FPS) and fighting games are very different from one another. Mario kart is gonna masquerade the lag because you feel you're not lagging, however other players will get bad connection and see you lag all over the place
It's also entirely possible MK8 actually does lag a bit for you as well, but it's less noticeable because lagging there can be masked more by not affecting your framerate in the race itself and just desyncing with your opponents a bit so it may be harder to hit them with a green shell or something even though things still run smoothly on your end.
Yeah I know I guess I just didn't realize,probably should have mentioned that I play battlefield in another room so I'm gonna try moving my wii u to that room and seeing if it works, after brawl I just thought they messed up again as the lag is on brawl level lol
Karsticles
Member
The point is that the SFxT characters costed almost nothing to port over. It's all about finances. SFxT characters were easy to develop and adapt compared to fresh characters, so we got them cheap. It is like comparing MvC2's roster number to MvC3 - it's just not fair when MvC2 is a bunch of copy-pasted sprites from other games.
Agreed that we are lacking in villains. If we got Hades, Demise, Ridley, and Wolf, the roster would be perfect in my eyes.
Yes! A good day! DLC through 2016 is incredible.
Where is my Game Xplain of Mewtwo?I'm stuck between the Chorus Kids and Shovel Knight for my ballot vote.
They're my two most-wanted newcomers by far, but I feel like even though Shovel Knight is going to get a lot more votes than the Chorus Kids, he ironically has far less of a chance simply because he's a third-party character... not to mention the "iconic blue third-party character" quota is already more than filled by Mega Man and Sonic. Shovel Knight doesn't exactly bring anything exceptionally new to the table, and we know from what Sakurai has said that a third-party character has to be particularly special and fill an obvious gap in the roster to even be considered.
So... I guess I'm leaning more toward voting for the Chorus Kids. Hmm.
It doesn't matter anyway, because Ridley is obviously going to get the most votes.
Wireless SUUUUUUUUCKS. You can't expect a good experience unless you are wired. Mario Kart desyncs during lag, which isn't possible in a fighting game.
Professor Beef
Banned
Confusion (his sideB) now makes the projectiles hit people, yes, but it doesn't make it hit them. I think you're bring confused by Mewtwo's animation for his battering item attack, if you saw the beam sword part of the trailer. Disable (downB) still looks like it does the same thing as Melee.
balladofwindfishes
Member
The second half of music in Lucas' trailer is bothering me. The one that's not Smashing Song of Praise.
I've heard that song before and I can't for the life of me remember which Brawl/Smash 4 song it is.
Edit: Love Theme. Should have expected... given that's it's Lucas.
I've heard that song before and I can't for the life of me remember which Brawl/Smash 4 song it is.
Edit: Love Theme. Should have expected... given that's it's Lucas.
Masked Man
I said wow
I love that Lucas' down throw now buries the opponent. Nice touch!
I KNOW! I thought of you as soon as the Love Theme started playing. So happy to have our boy back. It's so great to see him and Ness fighting together again!
Well, we are about 90% sure that the Chorus Kids were in development at some point, so theoretically they already have some sort of moveset worked out. In that sense, it would be a more "realistic" vote. I would imagine that they're going to be putting out characters that require the fewest labor hours, so I think Wolf is just about a given at this point.
I'm voting once in JP and once in EN. I'll be submitting one vote for my beloved Chorus Kids, and the other for the most adorable adventurer ever: Captain Toad!
I KNOW! I thought of you as soon as the Love Theme started playing. So happy to have our boy back. It's so great to see him and Ness fighting together again!
Well, we are about 90% sure that the Chorus Kids were in development at some point, so theoretically they already have some sort of moveset worked out. In that sense, it would be a more "realistic" vote.
I would imagine that they're going to be putting out characters that require the fewest labor hours, so I think Wolf is just about a given at this point. I'm voting once in JP and once in EN. I'll be submitting one vote for my beloved Chorus Kids, and the other for the most adorable adventurer ever: Captain Toad!
Thanks for those that helped with the lag issues, I moved my wii U to another room and it worked much better some lag on some matches but it was definitely bearable, and I may try the Ethernet thing too I know I got one around here just gotta find it, glad I got this fixed so I can have some more fun with the game and especially since I now know I won't be playing splatoon in that room
Vote for the Chorus Kids in Japanese. Sakurai is probably more likely to read those submissions himself. #teamchoruskids
Masked Man
I said wow
Will do!
But the effort to get Ridley in will fall short given the reason why Ridley wasn't added in the first place. Plus the Chorus Kids were previously worked on.I'm stuck between the Chorus Kids and Shovel Knight for my ballot vote.
They're my two most-wanted newcomers by far, but I feel like even though Shovel Knight is going to get a lot more votes than the Chorus Kids, he ironically has far less of a chance simply because he's a third-party character... not to mention the "iconic blue third-party character" quota is already more than filled by Mega Man and Sonic. Shovel Knight doesn't exactly bring anything exceptionally new to the table, and we know from what Sakurai has said that a third-party character has to be particularly special and fill an obvious gap in the roster to even be considered.
So... I guess I'm leaning more toward voting for the Chorus Kids. Hmm.
It doesn't matter anyway, because Ridley is obviously going to get the most votes.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Yeah, That's how I felt when I had to intake all information from Smash trailer.
Agreed. I think people need to stop voting for third party characters because I don't think they would have time to deal with all processes that they had to get third-party characters.
Snake, Bayoneta, etc. Also people, for love of master hand, STOP VOTING for filler characters (Waluigi, Daisy, Roy) because all votes for third-party characters and filler characters are more likely to be waste of votes.
Yeah, I would love to vote for Chorus Kids but I'm still not sure since I want to let Sakurai know that people still want Isaac so he might have better chance to be in Smash 5.
I still have a feeling that they probably finalized DLC characters list but they probably use the datas from ballots for Nex Gen Smash.
The old reasoning was stupid and the new reasoning is even dumber. The new reasoning, which, iirc, boiled down to "he would no longer be menacing" may have been true in Melee or Brawl. But play Bowser or Ganondorf in Smash 4. They're slow, but they still have a menacing presence because they need to connect a much smaller amount of attacks to kill than most other characters. They pull off being menacing, arguably more so than in any other Smash game. I just don't think it's a very good excuse.
Plus having the only Ridley in Smash 4 be clone Ridley means regular Ridley can be present without screwing things up too much.
MrSaturn99
Member
the moment that love theme started playing my heart stopped
ommggggggGGGHGGGGGGG
I'm convinced Sakurai and the team based Ness off those figures that've come out in Japan over the past several years, which don't have blushed cheeks.
It is weird Lucas has them, ya, but not so much as him actually smiling!
Masked Man
I said wow
There are too many great stage candidates from that game. Thunder Tower would be great, but I would also love to see Saturn Valley or Tanetane Island!
$4 for a new character seems reasonable to me, I was afraid it'd be more.
Who? Who? Ridley probably not and Wolf very likely.
Who? Who? Ridley probably not and Wolf very likely.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
along with stage, etc; I believe so.
Karsticles
Member
Buff Rosalina, guys!
Demise is the demon that becomes reincarnated as Rekindled every game. Final boss of Skyward Sword.
I know they aren't likely. But they are what I want.
Disable seemed to have better range.
Dude, if you don't know who Hades is, you haven't played Kid Icarus: Uprising. And that is on you.
Demise is the demon that becomes reincarnated as Rekindled every game. Final boss of Skyward Sword.
I know they aren't likely. But they are what I want.
I don't follow the distinction you made there in the first sentence. Help me out?
Disable seemed to have better range.
Tanetane would be waaaaay to uncomfortable. Somebody in the Lucas thread recommended sunflower fields, thad be great too.
Kid izaría up rising and skyward sword baddies.
Phantom Flapjack
Member
Is it too late to sign up for the doubles "tourney?" I went ahead and ordered an ethernet adapter so I won't have to worry about the possibility of making things worse for other players. It'd also be nice if it prevents me from throwing out a jab when I'm trying to do a smash attack. Anyway, if anyone is looking for a partner, I'm down. If not, I'll just throw my name in and get paired up with someone at random.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Posted by Spainkiller
Sooo, we just had Lucas announcement....
Sooo, we just had Lucas announcement....
With eight player Smash, it's New Pork City's time to shine!
Anonymous Tipster
Member
Hey guys! My buddy's over again and we're looking to 2v2 if anyone is interested?
We'd need two people of course!
We'd need two people of course!
Masked Man
I said wow
Submission complete!
Gender: Male
Character you're voting for: Captain Toad
Title of game the character appears in: Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker
Why should this character become a fighter?: Toad established himself as a capable adventurer long ago in Super Mario Bros. 2, but he has rarely enjoyed the same limelight as Mario, Peach, and Luigi. Now, however, my favorite fungus has shown even more potential in his latest outing as a treasure hunter, and it's time to let him shine! I would love to see him rolling around in a minecart, lobbing gems and turnips, swinging his pickaxe, and smashing his way to victory. Captain Toad is ready for adventureand a good fight!
Uncomfortable? Yes. But awesome? Yes!
I would love Sunflower Fields, though! I just hope I'll be able to keep myself from crying every time I play...
Yeah, given that the team is probably trying to do as much as they can while expending as few labor hours as possible, I suspect NPC is the most likely candidate if we do end up getting a Mother 3 stage.
Gender: Male
Character you're voting for: Captain Toad
Title of game the character appears in: Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker
Why should this character become a fighter?: Toad established himself as a capable adventurer long ago in Super Mario Bros. 2, but he has rarely enjoyed the same limelight as Mario, Peach, and Luigi. Now, however, my favorite fungus has shown even more potential in his latest outing as a treasure hunter, and it's time to let him shine! I would love to see him rolling around in a minecart, lobbing gems and turnips, swinging his pickaxe, and smashing his way to victory. Captain Toad is ready for adventureand a good fight!
Uncomfortable? Yes. But awesome? Yes!
I would love Sunflower Fields, though! I just hope I'll be able to keep myself from crying every time I play...
Yeah, given that the team is probably trying to do as much as they can while expending as few labor hours as possible, I suspect NPC is the most likely candidate if we do end up getting a Mother 3 stage.
Professor Beef
Banned
Thank goodness for Omega stages if New Pork City actually does return. Barf.
I dunno, I was confused by your sentence wording because you made it seem like Confusion made the item it reflected auto-whack people.
I dunno, I was confused by your sentence wording because you made it seem like Confusion made the item it reflected auto-whack people.
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
Sure, form is here by quoting the post!
Is he banned? Don't feel like checking, the whole thing was suspect anyhow. :/
I'll be his first opponent, anyone else?
Did my part, how about you guys?
Anonymous Tipster
Member
Sweet! I'll make a room in a sec! Someone else needs to join up
Edit: rooms up!
Oh shit, Nabster! Looks like we are set Captain!
Karsticles
Member
Heading to bed. I need to get the rest of my ranbats in this weekend. Twilt, Ammo, and Cronoc, will you be available?
Oh, I just meant that reflected projectiles wouldn't hit the opponent in Melee, but they do now, which is a huge change for him.
Professor Beef
Banned
Ah, and yes I agree, it's a MUCH welcome change of pace.
Yeah sure. I should be available anytime past 5PMEST~.
Anonymous Tipster
Member
Clinging to my robotic life on that last one jesus
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
Fucking Nabster, man. That off-stage game is ridiculous. :O
direct_quote
Member
Hopefully Martha gets some buffs so her sword normals actually have hitboxes... I feel like I'm hitting thin air sometimes. Palutena's buffs = give her customs as default, make her f-air hitbox align with the model, make her spike not suck, and slightly less lag on all her smashes because they suck..
SolarKnight
Member
Is anyone up for some 1v1 custom matches?
No 3DS for Kid Icarus. With 0 experience playing Skyward Sword, Demise just looks like a muscley, shirtless Ganondorf. Based on his artwork, I think Hades might be cool to play as though.
On the gaming side there's a lot of support for Wonder Red, who could be cool. I wonder if they could add in a new playstyle of character by making Red collect people around the stage to make his attacks bigger, but if hit they go flying and he goes back to default power... would make him a real glass cannon type of character like Smash doesn't have at the moment.
Edit: also, I don't think we're missing much by not having the ice climbers. Given that their moveset wouldn't be reimagined, without their melee-specific tricks they're garbage competitively IMO.
SolarKnight
Member
Uh, if by that you mean their dual character shenanigans then probably, but we ARE talking about Ice "S tier in Brawl" Climbers right?
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
Yes, we're talking about Ice "only that good because chaingrabs existed and so did Nana to help in Brawl" Climbers. Why?
No chain grabs in this game though. And given the technical issues with the 3DS version they would probably disallow desyncs as a workaround if they added them as a duo. And one ice climber by itself...? I don't see it. Oh who knows, I'm talking out my ass really.
SolarKnight
Member
Well just saying because you said "melee specific". In the hypothetical case they were in the game and worked the same as they always have, I'm sure they could probably have some pseudo chain grab shenanigans but that's just speculation. As long as they're a dual character I think they'd have potential.
Edit: Oh yeah, and still looking for someone to play.