They're said to co-own it, so Tecmo presumably has some say. The way I understood it was that Nintendo has the rights to 4 and anything that comes after that.
Microsoft let Minecraft release on Vita. It's a confusing world we live in.
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Super Smash Bros. for Wii U POTD Thread 17: Smash 3DS Discussion @ OT PLS
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Microsoft let Minecraft release on Vita. It's a confusing world we live in.
If they only co-own it they may not have much say in what happens to older entries only entries going forward, or perhaps making a bit of money from PSN sales is better than making no money whatsoever from preventing sales on PSN.
The only time Nintendo has allegedly prevented the sale of an IP is GoldenEye on the 360, but the reported conditions were the Wii could have the N64 version while the 360 could have the HD online remake that wouldn't net them any income. It's not surprising they didn't accept that offer.
I don't see where this idea of co-ownership came from. The Relyonhorror article says that they co-own the IP because of the copywrite information in the recent Fatal Frame game trailers, but by that logic they also co-own the Bayonetta IP, which we know they don't.
But Zael isn't third party.
Bayonetta is actually a good comparison; they don't own the IP at large, but they have exclusive rights to 2. I've read often that with Fatal Frame those rights extend to any future installments, and we're seeing that borne out with 5. It's likely that Tecmo doesn't think the franchise can remain viable without first party support.
But didn't The Last Story get published by Xseed in America? Why didn't Nintendo publish it if they own it?
I think it's just that Nintendo is happy with funding Fatal Frame games to give them an exclusive horror series and Tecmo wouldn't bother with expensive HD development of such a niche series without Nintendo's funding. I don't know if they have a contract for future games or the series in general, I've never heard of such a contract at least. But I'm certain that the IP is only owned by Tecmo. Plus Aquamarine agrees, and she seems to know her stuff:
I wonder if that Fatal Frame trophy is the only one in the game.
Atlus published Cubivore in the Americas. It's still a Nintendo IP.
As for this Fatal Frame issue, I believe it comes down to what people think "co-own" means. Having the rights to the games they co-developed to some may mean they co-own the IP because they do co-own parts of it but not all. Others would disagree with that definition.
MaverickHunterAsh
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Neat pic of the day! The Photo Studio is going to be fun; I can't wait to see the crazy shit people come up with on Miiverse.
I feel like we're very close to a Direct announcement/information blowout. I hope so!
I feel like we're very close to a Direct announcement/information blowout. I hope so!
Makes sense after all in terms of roster choices who is really left that could join and has the same larger than life nature as some of the characters already in SSB..
All of Nintendo's biggest characters are already there, the most iconic 3rd party characters are already there. So it's about time the new kids on the block start joining their illustrious elders.
HawthorneKitty
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Miu would be too easy to upskirt.
Yuuri would be the only choice.
Yuuri would be the only choice.
).The Captain
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Yep, Miiverse is going to be a great place where creativity shines.
It's going to happen.
powerdrain
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Happy to see this back since it was fun to play around with in Brawl. Looks like there's a lot more freedom with where you can place them now since the Superspicy curry is floating.
Intelligent Systems needs to make a Paper Ice Climbers game first.
They really fit the style well. If only they had a chance to be part of just one game in those designs before their passing...
It's only to be expected - The Last Story has easily rippable models, while Golden Sun's only ever had sprites. It'd be different if there was already anything from the series modeled and animated for previous Smash Bros. games, but sadly that's not the case.
Beelzebufo
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Maybe Master Orders is a game mode in which, as Master Hand, you deliver food to obscure Nintendo characters?
Red Arremer
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Diddy Kong
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The Last Story content? Excellent!
Really hope we get a direct next week
Really hope we get a direct next week
Doubt it. Bayonetta's design isn't as revealing as Tharja's design. If anything her design is more comparable to Zero Suit Samus. If she does get a trophy it won't be her mid hair summon, it'll likely just be a regular pose in her normal attire.
Hours Left
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OMGIntelligent Systems needs to make a Paper Ice Climbers game first.
I need this.
Benzychenz
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It was Nintendo published in both Japan and Europe. Reggie didn't like the game I suppose.
They're being fairly liberal with Namco stuff, so getting some Baten Kaitos or Xenosaga trophies wouldn't be inconceivable. Though it still isn't all that likely, of course.
MaverickHunterAsh
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I would be so incredibly down with some Xenosaga trophies. Xenosaga Episode III is one of my favorite RPGs of all time. To see it represented in Smash through a trophy or two would be really, really cool.
KOS-MOS would also make a badass Assist Trophy, just saying.
balladofwindfishes
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Xenosaga content would confuse people with Xenoblade content. They'd think they were the same series.
Even I get them confused and I know what Xenoblade is.
Even I get them confused and I know what Xenoblade is.
The Bankslammer
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If they only used the summon models, it wouldn't have looked too out-of-place on the 3DS.
A couple of ripped summons and Isaac's Brawl model would have been better than what we got, at least.
MaverickHunterAsh
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Aw, that's a good point. Damn.
Karsticles
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Does anyone else think it would be very strange for Sakurai's team to have made many new models for trophies for the Wii U release, but not a single additional character?
IntelliHeath
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Whoa, trophy of Last Story character and Fatal Frame Character. I'm looking forward to collect all trophies in Wii U as well.
There's a huge difference between importing/making some static models and creating characters with animations and move sets, not to mention balancing issues to deal with...
That and the parity issue, of course...
MrSaturn99
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sup zael
Jawmuncher
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I just want more Last Story and Pandoras Tower stuff.
Glad were getting something though.
Glad were getting something though.
Karsticles
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Sure, but if we have something like 200 new trophies, surely that would be on par, work-wise, with a handful of new characters. I'm presuming that they would be released for the 3DS as well.
IntelliHeath
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Amazon just confirmed Stage Builder and Game Board Mode (more likely to be Smash World) along with little more description for Master/Crazy Orders.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=134744953
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=134744953
InvincibleAgent
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This game board mode sounds great. Can't wait to hop a Ganondorf across a few spaces to land neatly between an Olimar and a Luigi.
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Eh, would be amazing but I'm not getting my hopes that high. I'm saying 850 tops.
InvincibleAgent
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Zael from The Last Story grabs some Superspicy Curry from Master Hand. "No ! You mustn't let that curry lure you in !!" In the Wii U version, you can take photos of dream collaborations and funny situations with your trophies in the Photo Studio.
while i not used that feature, is cool is back. nice to see The last story got noticed.
Now we need more info of this. Really curious as to how the board game will work (ala Mario Party perhaps?)
Mario Party + Smash = 2x the salt!
Hopefully it's traditional mario party but instead of minigames it's similar to the 1-2 minute matches smash run had. Race/climb/vs enemies might be impossible without splitting the screen (which is why they were on smash run), but the 'special' fights (metal, giant, etc) might work. Instead of coins/stars, you can accumulate stat bonuses similar to smash run. Landing on certain spaces will give you + or - to certain stats, etc. Winning a minigame will give you even more (stat bonus chosen by roulette maybe?).
Exciting.
So friggen hyped for stage builder right now.
What're the odds of custom music?
Also, I'm overnighting a WiiU from Nintendo's refurb program. I want to play it with my SO this weekend.
How many of you have had dealings with Nintedo's shipping in the past? I've gotten "overnight" from quite a few people and it tends to mean 3 or 4 days later.
What're the odds of custom music?
Also, I'm overnighting a WiiU from Nintendo's refurb program. I want to play it with my SO this weekend.
How many of you have had dealings with Nintedo's shipping in the past? I've gotten "overnight" from quite a few people and it tends to mean 3 or 4 days later.
SaberVulcan
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Never ordered directly from Nintendo, but take "overnight" with a grain of salt when ordering on a Friday. Ive had many times ordering on Thursday or Friday with 1-2 day shipping, and the weekend not calculating into the companies delivery schedule.
Godspeed.
IntelliHeath
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